[E-devel] R: Re: Unified theme for apps

[Dave A. <da...@gu...>]

----- "Michael Jennings" <e-...@ka...> ha scritto:

> On Monday, 31 March 2008, at 18:21:57 (+0100),
> The DarkMaster wrote:
> 
> > I think almost everyone is understimating the problem. This is a
> very bad
> > issue only Enlightenment has and a lot people asks why does this
> happen,
> > even in our OpenGEU FOrums. Even creting EWL, ETK, etc. themes is
> really
> > something bad a user has to do. Once you create an E17 theme, it
> should be
> > one for everything, you cannot have to create a theme for every
> library
> > used. No other DE / VM has such a behaviour. For example, in Gnome
> you
> > customize everything by creating a GTK theme, same in KDE. A user
> cannot be
> > left with no choice than creating a single E17 theme and let the
> others
> > applications look weird and different from the Others. This is rally
> really
> > bad for any user and it also gives the users a really bad impression
> of the
> > entire Enlightenment. I think we should find a way to unify
> everything in a
> > single basic theme that has to be created, Sthithaprajna's way may
> be one
> > but tehre may be other ways too.
> > 
> > Just please do not understimate this problem, because it is a
> problem and it
> > a very huge one too.
> 
> It's only a problem if you're one of Those crazy people who believes
> one of the following two myths:
> 
> 1.  Enlightenment is a desktop environment.

>From the first line of the home page of e:
"Enlightenment is a window manager. Enlightenment is a desktop shell."

...In my opinion e17 IS a desktop environment, or at least I use it in this way :)
Is also true that E is in constant development and is not finished yet, and for 
now it can't be considered a complete desktop environment.

> 2.  All your apps must/should look the same.

You really think that a person is crazy because like to have a consistent desktop?


> 
> Enlightenment and the EFL are not intended for Those people. :-)

Why you want to cut-off all the people that want/needs something different than you?

> 
> Anyone who intends to create a distribution around a belief in either
> or both of these myths should be prepared to compensate for their
> faulty assumptions, possibly via a unified "theme picker" tool which
> changes themes for the various components simultaneously.

This can be done with 1 hours of coding (if you wont a module) or in 3 lines
of bash, we just need to have theme for e/etk/ewl. And detour seems to go in this direction.

> 
> Of course, all this can be avoided by simply using E for what it is,
> not what it isn't (or what someone wants to force/pretend it to be).
> :-)

I can't understand your point, what's the difference from e and gnome?
Gnome has more "gadgets"? gnome has more application that use gtk?
I think it's only a matter of time...gnome have 10 years of advantage on e.


Dave.