From: Johny W. <joh...@gm...> - 2011-09-04 06:12:53
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Hi Can someone direct me to the manual page explaining how to turn off window title-bar animation, in Enlightment? Thanks! |
From: j r. <ru...@ya...> - 2011-09-04 13:27:37
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Open the settings panel. Select Windows then window focus. Make adjustments under advanced New window focus -- no window. --- On Sun, 9/4/11, Johny Why <joh...@gm...> wrote: > From: Johny Why <joh...@gm...> > Subject: [e-users] title-bar animation > To: "enl...@li..." <enl...@li...> > Date: Sunday, September 4, 2011, 1:12 AM > Hi > > Can someone direct me to the manual page explaining how to > turn off window title-bar animation, in Enlightment? > > Thanks! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even > better > price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt > when you > download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-09-04 14:04:42
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 23:12:25 -0700 Johny Why <joh...@gm...> said: > Hi > > Can someone direct me to the manual page explaining how to turn off window > title-bar animation, in Enlightment? which version of enlightenment? -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |
From: Johny W. <joh...@gm...> - 2011-09-04 16:10:24
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I'm pretty sure it's 0.17. It came bundled with the new macpup 525. macpup.org I want to disable the way the window title bar of a window flips up and down, when entering or exiting the window with the mouse. Is that possible? the window focus method that was suggested does not disable that. What does the window focus method do? Thanks! |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-09-04 16:29:57
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:09:56 -0700 Johny Why <joh...@gm...> said: > I'm pretty sure it's 0.17. It came bundled with the new macpup 525. > macpup.org > > I want to disable the way the window title bar of a window flips up and down, > when entering or exiting the window with the mouse. Is that possible? make a theme of your own or modify a theme. animation is controlled by the theme - as is general look and feel of elements. > the window focus method that was suggested does not disable that. What does > the window focus method do? > > Thanks! > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |
From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2011-09-04 17:09:53
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thanks! |
From: johny w. <joh...@gm...> - 2011-09-06 01:55:12
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hi i want to edit my current theme. Specifically, window title-bar animation, when using the mouse to click from window to window. so, i'm looking for documentation. I found these two pages, but i'm lost. Any suggestions? http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/EFLOverview http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/EFL Thanks! |
From: P P. <pp...@gm...> - 2011-09-11 03:46:15
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You can see the very well commented theme file (.edc) in your svn directory: e/data/themes/default.edc I have never used editje but you might want to check that out: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/editje http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Editje |
From: Gustavo B. <bar...@pr...> - 2011-09-11 15:48:12
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Editje wont work with extensively hand written files like e default theme. Odds of EDC being too flexible and the WYSIWYG tool having to offer an reasonable usable interface --Gustavo Sent from my iPhone On 11/09/2011, at 00:50, P Purkayastha <pp...@gm...> wrote: > You can see the very well commented theme file (.edc) in your svn directory: > e/data/themes/default.edc > > I have never used editje but you might want to check that out: > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/editje > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Editje > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization and iSCSI > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and delivers a new level of > agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to modernize your storage > and backup environments for virtualization. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users |
From: Daniel J. S. <seo...@gm...> - 2011-09-11 05:12:50
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Wow e's default.edc is well commented :) You can also refer edc reference page. http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/edje/edcref.html Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, P Purkayastha <pp...@gm...> wrote: > You can see the very well commented theme file (.edc) in your svn directory: > e/data/themes/default.edc > > I have never used editje but you might want to check that out: > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/editje > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Editje > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization and iSCSI > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and delivers a new level of > agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to modernize your storage > and backup environments for virtualization. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > |
From: P P. <pp...@gm...> - 2011-09-11 13:16:53
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There used to be a very approachable and user friendly edj introduction. I searched the wiki trying to find it but couldn't get it. The edcref is good, but it is too comprehensive for a beginner. On Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:12:42 PM UTC+8, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote: > > Wow e's default.edc is well commented :) > > You can also refer edc reference page. > http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/edje/edcref.html > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can see the very well commented theme file (.edc) in your svn > directory: > > e/data/themes/default.edc > > > > I have never used editje but you might want to check that out: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/editje > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Editje > > > > |
From: Alex B. <com...@gm...> - 2011-12-22 13:10:27
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Hi everyone, now, how would I have to modify the default theme in order to stop window title-bar animation? I am not shy of editing a config file, but in this case I am not yet able to find the relevant piece of code... Well, I just dared to take a look into the default theme definition. I still consider myself a newbie, regarding e17, so I had to find out, how to do this first. ;) So I copied the file /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/default.edj to ~/.e/e/themes, then cd'ed into this directory and used $ edj_decc default.edj to disassemble the file. A directory "default" with lots of image files and one file default.edc was created. I cd'ed into it and opened default.edc with my favourite text editor. And that's where I am lost. I would confirm, that the file is well documented, for the most part, and that the online reference is certainly helpful. However, as a noob, I have yet to climb one more hill, it seems, as I am unable to identify the relevant spot in the default.edc file. In fact, I changed a couple of things, closed my editor and re-assembled the default.edj file. Then I opened the settings dialog and selected the default theme, but this time as a user theme, not as a system theme. Effect: None, that I would have noticed... :( So, can anyone explain, which lines of code determine, that window title-bars are inverted using an animation in the default theme, so that I can change that (switch it off), but leave everything else as it is (as I really like the default theme, apart from that one detail), please? Thanks a lot for your patience, again! Alex Am Sonntag 11 September 2011, 07:12:42 schrieb Daniel Juyung Seo: > Wow e's default.edc is well commented :) > > You can also refer edc reference page. > http://docs.enlightenment.org/auto/edje/edcref.html > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, P Purkayastha <pp...@gm...> wrote: > > You can see the very well commented theme file (.edc) in your svn > > directory: e/data/themes/default.edc > > > > I have never used editje but you might want to check that out: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/editje > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Editje > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization and iSCSI > > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and delivers a new level > > of agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to modernize your > > storage and backup environments for virtualization. > > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enl...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization and iSCSI > Virtualization increases hardware utilization and delivers a new level of > agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to modernize your storage > and backup environments for virtualization. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users |
From: P P. <pp...@gm...> - 2011-12-22 16:49:35
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One (easy) option for you is to open the file bd_title_bg.png in gimp and make it either fully transparent or the same color as the default. That way the animation will still happen, but you won't see it. Another option would be modify "visible: 1" to "visible: 0" in line 2472 inside the part "title_back". Yet another option would be to modify the program which calls the "title_back" part, so that "title_back" is never called by any program. That would entail commenting out (with //) the statements which say "target: title_back". |
From: Alex B. <com...@gm...> - 2011-12-24 02:33:46
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Am Donnerstag 22 Dezember 2011, 17:49:23 schrieb P Purkayastha: > One (easy) option for you is to open the file bd_title_bg.png in gimp and > make it either fully transparent or the same color as the default. That way > the animation will still happen, but you won't see it. > > Another option would be modify "visible: 1" to "visible: 0" in line 2472 > inside the part "title_back". > > Yet another option would be to modify the program which calls the > "title_back" part, so that "title_back" is never called by any program. > That would entail commenting out (with //) the statements which say > "target: title_back". I found another way to achieve what I wanted: I just set the time delay defined as variable LINEAR to 0.0 instead of 0.2 (seconds). So the animation is still there, but the change appears to be instantaneous. Thus I still can easily identify the active window (the one that has the focus) without being annoyed by "window blinds" constantly being opened and pulled down. Thanks a lot for your explanations, which helped to find my way, here. I guess, I'd have to experiment a lot, before I'll be able to create my own theme. Probably I'll get some more themes from the net and modify them in order to see, what the effect of each change is, before I try to create something on my own from scratch... But I might as well come to the conclusion, that e is *too* powerful for me... ;) Alex |
From: Alex B. <com...@gm...> - 2011-12-24 00:48:12
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Am Donnerstag 22 Dezember 2011, 17:49:23 schrieb P Purkayastha: > One (easy) option for you is to open the file bd_title_bg.png in gimp and > make it either fully transparent or the same color as the default. That way > the animation will still happen, but you won't see it. > > Another option would be modify "visible: 1" to "visible: 0" in line 2472 > inside the part "title_back". > > Yet another option would be to modify the program which calls the > "title_back" part, so that "title_back" is never called by any program. > That would entail commenting out (with //) the statements which say > "target: title_back". Hi, thanks a lot! I prefer configuration rather than modification. That's why I'd rather leave the pics untouched, and tried method 2 and 3. Method 1: Modify bd_title_bg.png Didn't try it. Method 2: Modify line 2472. I tried it, but didn't notice any effect; not the desired one, at least. Wrong line, maybe? Or could it be that other changes are necessary, additionally? Method 3: Modify "program" This did the trick --- almost. I commented out all the lines "target: title_back". Effect: The background of the window title bar remains grey, which is what I want; however, now the title bar text fades out, when a window gets the focus, and reappears, when another window gets the focus. So I guess, I have to look for an comment out "target: title_fg" lines, or something. Right? I'll somehow make it, but frankly, this is hard stuff for a newbie! Any chance to include these things in the settings dialog, any time? Thanks again! Alex |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-12-24 02:46:29
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:52:58 +0100 Alex Baer <com...@gm...> said: > I'll somehow make it, but frankly, this is hard stuff for a newbie! > Any chance to include these things in the settings dialog, any time? no chance. really this is how it works. e17 goes to theme and says "hey - give me edje file named X. thanks. ok - what element does the "client" go into - ok there. good. stick something there i can track. now i'll just place you in the frame area, make you the right size and that's it". that's all e knows about the border theme. it sends signals to it and gets signals back. it sends stuff like "you just got focused" "you just got unfocused" etc. and the edje object can react any way it likes - that is up to the designer of the theme. it may animate, just flip from color a to b, may do nothing, .. who knows. all e does it inform the edje object of a change in state. the edje object can also inform e of things too the same way. but it's a very very very loose joining of c code in e and a graphical object that "does stuff". e pretty much has no idea what goes on inside the object and what it decides to do and how. that's actually intentional. you can only possibly make it a setting by sending signals to the object to tell it how to configure itself - this means the theme gets significantly more complicated and larger as the object now has to handle all these possible permutation of stuff it may have to do. making themes is already enough work without this. your request is for no title bar animation - what about every other possible thing that can change and animate in e and if we made it an option for each? even if we had just 1 option "don't animate" it'd double the logic work for all theme objects to deal with the animate and don't animate case. so no - it's not becoming an option. the idea is - if u don't like animations, find a theme that doesn't animate. if no one makes one.. then make one yourself. the default theme has comments to try and get you started. edje has lots of documentation on line. you can do it with enough patience and time. :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |
From: Alex B. <com...@gm...> - 2011-12-24 21:06:54
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Am Samstag 24 Dezember 2011, 03:38:22 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:52:58 +0100 Alex Baer <com...@gm...> said: > > I'll somehow make it, but frankly, this is hard stuff for a newbie! > > Any chance to include these things in the settings dialog, any time? > > no chance. really this is how it works. e17 goes to theme and says "hey - > give me edje file named X. thanks. ok - what element does the "client" go > into - ok there. good. stick something there i can track. now i'll just > place you in the frame area, make you the right size and that's it". > > that's all e knows about the border theme. it sends signals to it and gets > signals back. it sends stuff like "you just got focused" "you just got > unfocused" etc. and the edje object can react any way it likes - that is up > to the designer of the theme. it may animate, just flip from color a to b, > may do nothing, .. who knows. all e does it inform the edje object of a > change in state. the edje object can also inform e of things too the same > way. but it's a very very very loose joining of c code in e and a > graphical object that "does stuff". e pretty much has no idea what goes on > inside the object and what it decides to do and how. that's actually > intentional. you can only possibly make it a setting by sending signals to > the object to tell it how to configure itself - this means the theme gets > significantly more complicated and larger as the object now has to handle > all these possible permutation of stuff it may have to do. making themes > is already enough work without this. your request is for no title bar > animation - what about every other possible thing that can change and > animate in e and if we made it an option for each? even if we had just 1 > option "don't animate" it'd double the logic work for all theme objects to > deal with the animate and don't animate case. > > so no - it's not becoming an option. the idea is - if u don't like > animations, find a theme that doesn't animate. if no one makes one.. then > make one yourself. the default theme has comments to try and get you > started. edje has lots of documentation on line. you can do it with enough > patience and time. :) Thanks, Carsten, for taking the time and explaining all this. Much appreciated! I guess, flexibility always has a price, and it's time and effort in this case. But after several months of occasional use of e17, I think, e is worth it, not only because it is good, but also because there's always a helping hand here in this forum, if someone needs it. A friendly community and helpful developers are a huge asset of any open source project! But now: Thanks a lot, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Keep up the excellent work --- I am looking forward to an official release in 2012. ;) Alex |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-12-25 05:47:11
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:11:43 +0100 Alex Baer <com...@gm...> said: > Am Samstag 24 Dezember 2011, 03:38:22 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > > On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 01:52:58 +0100 Alex Baer <com...@gm...> said: > > > I'll somehow make it, but frankly, this is hard stuff for a newbie! > > > Any chance to include these things in the settings dialog, any time? > > > > no chance. really this is how it works. e17 goes to theme and says "hey - > > give me edje file named X. thanks. ok - what element does the "client" go > > into - ok there. good. stick something there i can track. now i'll just > > place you in the frame area, make you the right size and that's it". > > > > that's all e knows about the border theme. it sends signals to it and gets > > signals back. it sends stuff like "you just got focused" "you just got > > unfocused" etc. and the edje object can react any way it likes - that is up > > to the designer of the theme. it may animate, just flip from color a to b, > > may do nothing, .. who knows. all e does it inform the edje object of a > > change in state. the edje object can also inform e of things too the same > > way. but it's a very very very loose joining of c code in e and a > > graphical object that "does stuff". e pretty much has no idea what goes on > > inside the object and what it decides to do and how. that's actually > > intentional. you can only possibly make it a setting by sending signals to > > the object to tell it how to configure itself - this means the theme gets > > significantly more complicated and larger as the object now has to handle > > all these possible permutation of stuff it may have to do. making themes > > is already enough work without this. your request is for no title bar > > animation - what about every other possible thing that can change and > > animate in e and if we made it an option for each? even if we had just 1 > > option "don't animate" it'd double the logic work for all theme objects to > > deal with the animate and don't animate case. > > > > so no - it's not becoming an option. the idea is - if u don't like > > animations, find a theme that doesn't animate. if no one makes one.. then > > make one yourself. the default theme has comments to try and get you > > started. edje has lots of documentation on line. you can do it with enough > > patience and time. :) > > Thanks, Carsten, for taking the time and explaining all this. Much > appreciated! > > I guess, flexibility always has a price, and it's time and effort in this > case. But after several months of occasional use of e17, I think, e is worth > it, not only because it is good, but also because there's always a helping > hand here in this forum, if someone needs it. A friendly community and > helpful developers are a huge asset of any open source project! well we try - sometimes. sometimes we get grumpy and yell. :) seriously yes. edje's power and how much we put into the theme gives a lot of power to the theme designer to decide how your gui behaves and looks, but this is kind of the point. edje being so powerful also makes it complex and that is kind of a mixed blessing. :( > But now: Thanks a lot, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Keep up the > excellent work --- I am looking forward to an official release in 2012. ;) who said it'd happen in 2012? :) :) teheheh merry xmas! :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |