From: Jeff H. <JeffHoogland@Linux.com> - 2011-06-23 21:07:55
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I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. -- ~Jeff Hoogland <http://jeffhoogland.com/> Thoughts on Technology <http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/>, Tech Blog Bodhi Linux <http://bodhilinux.com/>, Enlightenment for your Desktop |
From: Christopher M. <cpm...@co...> - 2011-06-23 21:41:37
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On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already - is > there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger friendly" > main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse and is > difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger (finger size) and easier to touch. dh |
From: Jeff H. <jef...@gm...> - 2011-06-23 22:03:01
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Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. Will play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael <cpm...@co...> wrote: > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. > > > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger > (finger size) and easier to touch. > > dh > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-06-23 23:48:29
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jef...@gm...> said: menus as such are not a particularly touch friendly thing anyway - well not since they can become arbitrarily tall or wide (with many levels of submenu). that's why you find touch ui's do things a bit differently :) but no - e17 itself has close to not "touch ui support" inside. all of that is over in elementary (toolkit). thats why if you use e + illume + elfe etc... you'll find no menus (well unless u start putting start modules around). > Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. Will > play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that > simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. > > On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael > <cpm...@co...> wrote: > > > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already > > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger > > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse > > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. > > > > > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling > > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger > > (finger size) and easier to touch. > > > > dh > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with > > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your > > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? > > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enl...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |
From: Daniel J. S. <seo...@gm...> - 2011-06-24 01:07:09
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yeah. elementary is the answer :) Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jef...@gm...> said: > > menus as such are not a particularly touch friendly thing anyway - well not > since they can become arbitrarily tall or wide (with many levels of submenu). > that's why you find touch ui's do things a bit differently :) but no - e17 > itself has close to not "touch ui support" inside. all of that is over in > elementary (toolkit). > > thats why if you use e + illume + elfe etc... you'll find no menus (well unless > u start putting start modules around). > >> Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. Will >> play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that >> simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. >> >> On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael >> <cpm...@co...> wrote: >> >> > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: >> > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already >> > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger >> > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse >> > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. >> > > >> > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling >> > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger >> > (finger size) and easier to touch. >> > >> > dh >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with >> > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your >> > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? >> > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > enlightenment-users mailing list >> > enl...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enl...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >> > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > |
From: Nicolas A. <agu...@gm...> - 2011-06-24 07:03:14
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2011/6/24 Daniel Juyung Seo <seo...@gm...>: > yeah. > elementary is the answer :) > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> wrote: >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jef...@gm...> said: >> >> menus as such are not a particularly touch friendly thing anyway - well not >> since they can become arbitrarily tall or wide (with many levels of submenu). >> that's why you find touch ui's do things a bit differently :) but no - e17 >> itself has close to not "touch ui support" inside. all of that is over in >> elementary (toolkit). >> >> thats why if you use e + illume + elfe etc... you'll find no menus (well unless >> u start putting start modules around). >> >>> Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. Will >>> play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that >>> simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. >>> >>> On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael >>> <cpm...@co...> wrote: >>> >>> > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: >>> > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already >>> > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger >>> > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse >>> > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. >>> > > >>> > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling >>> > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger >>> > (finger size) and easier to touch. >>> > >>> > dh >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with >>> > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your >>> > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? >>> > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. >>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > enlightenment-users mailing list >>> > enl...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>> enl...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>> >> >> >> -- >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 >> _______________________________________________ >> enlightenment-users mailing list >> enl...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > Jeff, what you need in E menu ? I could maybe add things you need in elfe, as it uses elementary. -- Nicolas Aguirre Mail: agu...@gm... Web: http://enna.geexbox.org Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-06-24 09:59:24
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:02:45 +0200 Nicolas Aguirre <agu...@gm...> said: > 2011/6/24 Daniel Juyung Seo <seo...@gm...>: > > yeah. > > elementary is the answer :) > > > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jef...@gm...> > >> said: > >> > >> menus as such are not a particularly touch friendly thing anyway - well not > >> since they can become arbitrarily tall or wide (with many levels of > >> submenu). that's why you find touch ui's do things a bit differently :) > >> but no - e17 itself has close to not "touch ui support" inside. all of > >> that is over in elementary (toolkit). > >> > >> thats why if you use e + illume + elfe etc... you'll find no menus (well > >> unless u start putting start modules around). > >> > >>> Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. Will > >>> play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that > >>> simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. > >>> > >>> On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael > >>> <cpm...@co...> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > >>> > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices already > >>> > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more "finger > >>> > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a mouse > >>> > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. > >>> > > > >>> > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the Scaling > >>> > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger > >>> > (finger size) and easier to touch. > >>> > > >>> > dh > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with > >>> > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your > >>> > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? > >>> > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. > >>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > enlightenment-users mailing list > >>> > enl...@li... > >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security > >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-users mailing list > >>> enl...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security > >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-users mailing list > >> enl...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enl...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > Jeff, what you need in E menu ? I could maybe add things you need in > elfe, as it uses elementary. that would be the right thing to do. :) n.b. nicolas: i'm thinking elfe with some improvmeents would be good for e18 as default illume home. things needed tho: 1. elm needs to work properly in e as a child window or just in a "foreign canvas". this needs to be partly done in elm at least. like e_win but part of the infra in elm as hooks and part in e. 2. elfe doesnt like "strange sizes" of icons - it clips them and some things. it's ok. its new. but its good! :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |
From: Jeff H. <JeffHoogland@Linux.com> - 2011-06-24 13:10:57
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Minus the "desktops" and "windows" options in the main menu I'd like everything else that is normally there included. Including having all the applications in their neat little menu sorted sections. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Nicolas Aguirre <agu...@gm...>wrote: > 2011/6/24 Daniel Juyung Seo <seo...@gm...>: > > yeah. > > elementary is the answer :) > > > > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...> > wrote: > >> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:02:46 -0500 Jeff Hoogland < > jef...@gm...> said: > >> > >> menus as such are not a particularly touch friendly thing anyway - well > not > >> since they can become arbitrarily tall or wide (with many levels of > submenu). > >> that's why you find touch ui's do things a bit differently :) but no - > e17 > >> itself has close to not "touch ui support" inside. all of that is over > in > >> elementary (toolkit). > >> > >> thats why if you use e + illume + elfe etc... you'll find no menus (well > unless > >> u start putting start modules around). > >> > >>> Yes, but scaling tends to make some of the text too large on things. > Will > >>> play with it some to see if I can find a happy mediuml. A new menu that > >>> simply fills the whole screen would be the best fit I think though. > >>> > >>> On Thu Jun 23 2011 04:40:39 PM CDT, Christopher Michael > >>> <cpm...@co...> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > >>> > > I know E has been used on several smaller touch screen devices > already > >>> > > - is there code hiding out there somewhere already for a more > "finger > >>> > > friendly" main menu? The current one is very much designed for a > mouse > >>> > > and is difficult to use via a touch screen only IMO. > >>> > > > >>> > Could check in the Settings Panel-->Look->Scaling and adjust the > Scaling > >>> > Factor. That should make the menu entries (and other items) larger > >>> > (finger size) and easier to touch. > >>> > > >>> > dh > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with > >>> > vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean > your > >>> > data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection > magic? > >>> > Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. > >>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > enlightenment-users mailing list > >>> > enl...@li... > >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains > a > >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security > >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> enlightenment-users mailing list > >>> enl...@li... > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security > >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-users mailing list > >> enl...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enl...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > Jeff, what you need in E menu ? I could maybe add things you need in > elfe, as it uses elementary. > > -- > Nicolas Aguirre > Mail: agu...@gm... > Web: http://enna.geexbox.org > Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ~Jeff Hoogland <http://jeffhoogland.com/> Thoughts on Technology <http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/>, Tech Blog Bodhi Linux <http://bodhilinux.com/>, Enlightenment for your Desktop |
From: Nicolas A. <agu...@gm...> - 2011-06-24 15:15:31
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2011/6/24 Jeff Hoogland <Jef...@li...>: > Minus the "desktops" and "windows" options in the main menu I'd like > everything else that is normally there included. Including having all the > applications in their neat little menu sorted sections. > Ok I see :) About application sections, I think that it's something that could be included in elfe. I could add sections in the "allapps" menu. and present sorted applications About "Files" menu, It should be included in elfe application menu too as a specific section, even if i find that the curret file manager is not really easy to use in touchscreen mode, but it's another story. About Run everything : It could be fun if Every could take place on a specific desktop. For example when you slide to the 1st desktop, it's launched. It should be doable. I could add an e_action when you hit a specific desktop and we could bind this action to the launch of everything . About Desktop and windows you seem not to need them :), but i'm currently working on a composited winlist seleector, for select ans close windows. About Enlightenment : I have no idea for this menus. About Configuration, you can add a config button in the illume top bar About System : No idea, but we should be able to stop/reboot/suspend the device -- Nicolas Aguirre Mail: agu...@gm... Web: http://enna.geexbox.org Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ |
From: Nicolas A. <agu...@gm...> - 2011-07-07 11:10:20
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2011/6/24 Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...>: > > that would be the right thing to do. :) n.b. nicolas: i'm thinking elfe with > some improvmeents would be good for e18 as default illume home. things needed > tho: That sounds good :) > > 1. elm needs to work properly in e as a child window or just in a "foreign > canvas". this needs to be partly done in elm at least. like e_win but part of > the infra in elm as hooks and part in e. I don't understand what you mean by "foreign canvas". I plan for the composited window list selector, to render all Elfe's Evas_Object in the evas of the compositor. It seems that we can't create a proxy object in canvas wich is not the canvas of the parent. So i have no other option than creating all my objects in the compistor canvas. But maybe that you plan to change that for e18 ? it's an e17 limitation ? or evas ? > 2. elfe doesnt like "strange sizes" of icons - it clips them and some things. > it's ok. its new. but its good! :) Default value for icons is 72x72px. You can change that in the eet configuration file. I do that because SHR people have a per device configuration. I did not find a way always have icons to looks good, so i take the choice to have a fixed size. Indeed when the icon size is not choosen with the rows and columns numbers, you get a clipping problem. What could be good ? Compute the colums/row size depending on the DPI of the screen and resize icons accordingly ? What would you prefer ? -- Nicolas Aguirre Mail: agu...@gm... Web: http://enna.geexbox.org Blog: http://dev.enlightenment.fr/~captainigloo/ |
From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2011-07-15 02:31:25
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 13:09:53 +0200 Nicolas Aguirre <agu...@gm...> said: > 2011/6/24 Carsten Haitzler <ra...@ra...>: > > > > that would be the right thing to do. :) n.b. nicolas: i'm thinking elfe with > > some improvmeents would be good for e18 as default illume home. things > > needed tho: > > That sounds good :) > > > > > 1. elm needs to work properly in e as a child window or just in a "foreign > > canvas". this needs to be partly done in elm at least. like e_win but part > > of the infra in elm as hooks and part in e. > > I don't understand what you mean by "foreign canvas". elm's widget tree RELIES on the fact that the eventual top-level will end up being an elm window EVAS OBJECT for things like proper focus handling and more. elm can kind of limp along without this but a bunch of things won't work. more importantly is that e NEED to create its won ACTUAL windows to manage. e itself has special infra for this - e_win. as when a wm creates its own windows.. they do not get redirected like everyone elses - so all the normal rules of "wm intercepts action X and gets to do it for the client" don't happen. elm_win ASSUMEs that a wm will be doing all of these things. if you used elm_win in e it'd fail miserably without glueing into something like e_win. you wouldnt get a border. you couldnt then move/resize and otherwise use it properly. even worse the ecore-evas compositor sync mechanism will probably end up in a deadlock. hooray! :) first step is allowing elm to wrap up an existing ecore-evas with an elm_win and then "work" as expected. next is so elm_win itself can "just work" as it would when used outside of the wm. > I plan for the composited window list selector, to render all Elfe's > Evas_Object in the evas of the compositor. > It seems that we can't create a proxy object in canvas wich is not the > canvas of the parent. So i have no other option than creating all my > objects in the compistor canvas. > But maybe that you plan to change that for e18 ? it's an e17 > limitation ? or evas ? its an evas limit - it won't be going away. as such the plan for e18 is to move more and more INTO the compositor canvas. it solves so many problems. i am planing on e18 or e19 becoming "compositing only" to make this "sane to support". > > 2. elfe doesnt like "strange sizes" of icons - it clips them and some > > things. it's ok. its new. but its good! :) > > Default value for icons is 72x72px. You can change that in the eet > configuration file. I do that because SHR people have a per device > configuration. I did not find a way always have icons to looks good, > so i take the choice to have a fixed size. Indeed when the icon size > is not choosen with the rows and columns numbers, you get a clipping > problem. What could be good ? Compute the colums/row size depending on > the DPI of the screen and resize icons accordingly ? What would you > prefer ? it'd be good if it adapted to the screen res/size better eg with more rows or columns of icons if there is more space etc. etc. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... |