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From: Michel B. <mic...@fr...> - 2007-03-25 12:18:24
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Hello in my new company, with a friend of mine, we have started a "Linux Master Server" project: ie with FAI we install all new computers automaticaly. We have chosen Debian Etch as a starting point but with a few improvements. E17 is one of the most important ones. We ran into a few troubles with Entrance: 1/ The PIDFILE defined in /etc/init.d/entrance does not match the real one created by entranced. In the source tree I can see that it has been fixed. Is it the case in the trunk ? Is your .deb up to date ? 2/ Entrance does not run the Debian Xsession scheme. I've tried to change the /etc/entrance/Xsession file but to no avail. Does anyone have a solution or even a clue ? 3/ Enlightenment has its main menu broken. 3.1/ The "Applications" dialog is obviously broken (graphicaly): the left part of it is stucker in a rectangle in the left top corner, unusable 3.2/ In this dialog the "regenerate menus" button, which did not worked in the 12/03 .deb update, is no more visible. I can't say if it works now ;) 'cause I can't click on it. Is there a command line utility to create menus ? 3.3/ I can drag a application from the "applications" dialog to the Ibar : it works. But I would make a comment: the widget that is under the mouse is a big rectangle taken from the app dialog list, and it is not easy to drop it in the Ibar at the point one's want to... since the mouse pointer is no more visible... 4/ Enlightenment has still a problem with svg: going through the icon theme dialog, one would just dig into an svg directory and press the apply button... Bug reproducable since six months or so. 5/ The mixer applet (or module) is not usable: it simply does not work. It starts and show a nice ruler but: 5.1/ Each time the applet receive a mouse button it opens and activate the mute check box: that way you have always the mute checked... The ruler does not make the sound volume to change !?? 6/ We would like to discuss about the media mounting/unmounting... It would be nice to have a media menu in E to help new users to use linux... And E17 deserve a better design than kde for this... Is there anyone that wants to start a design discussion about this ? ** But the picture is not so bad, I would say that E17 is in a good shape and that it can be used by non-geek users (corporate users). 80% of functions are working well, and the window manager does its job perfectly. ** I would like to thanks everyone that has worked hard in the last year to make this real :) !!!! Best regards, Michel |
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From: Sebastian D. <seb...@ta...> - 2007-03-26 06:58:47
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Michel BRIAND wrote: > Hello > 3/ > Enlightenment has its main menu broken. > 3.1/ > The "Applications" dialog is obviously broken (graphicaly): > the left part of it is stucker in a rectangle in the left top > corner, unusable > 3.2/ > In this dialog the "regenerate menus" button, which did not > worked in the 12/03 .deb update, is no more visible. I can't say > if it works now ;) 'cause I can't click on it. > Is there a command line utility to create menus ? > 3.3/ > I can drag a application from the "applications" dialog to the > Ibar : it works. But I would make a comment: the widget that is > under the mouse is a big rectangle taken from the app dialog > list, and it is not easy to drop it in the Ibar at the point > one's want to... since the mouse pointer is no more visible... > There has just been a major change in the application menu code. Please use current cvs or wait for a new release. Sebastian |
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From: <jos...@ju...> - 2007-03-26 07:43:36
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Michel wrote: > 4/ > Enlightenment has still a problem with svg: going through the icon > theme dialog, one would just dig into an svg directory and press > the apply button... > Bug reproducable since six months or so. Try updating to current cvs evas. Note though that there's currently some upheaval going on with a lot of things in cvs. If you still have a problem after that, I'll have to dig into this svg loader issue.. raster is no doubt overwhelmed at the moment. > 6/ > We would like to discuss about the media mounting/unmounting... > It would be nice to have a media menu in E to help new users > to use linux... And E17 deserve a better design than kde for > this... Is there anyone that wants to start a design discussion > about this ? I'm sure that suggestions and ideas are always welcome. :) jose. |
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From: Christopher M. <cpm...@co...> - 2007-03-26 08:23:41
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Michel BRIAND wrote: > Hello > > in my new company, with a friend of mine, we have started a > "Linux Master Server" project: ie with FAI we install all new computers > automaticaly. We have chosen Debian Etch as a starting point but with a > few improvements. E17 is one of the most important ones. > > We ran into a few troubles with Entrance: > > 5/ > The mixer applet (or module) is not usable: it simply does not work. It > starts and show a nice ruler but: > 5.1/ > Each time the applet receive a mouse button it opens and > activate the mute check box: that way you have always the mute > checked... > The ruler does not make the sound volume to change !?? > Huh, "works for me" dh |
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From: David S. <on...@gm...> - 2007-03-26 08:34:19
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:18:18 +0200 Michel BRIAND <mic...@fr...> wrote: > 4/ > Enlightenment has still a problem with svg: going through the icon > theme dialog, one would just dig into an svg directory and press the > apply button... > Bug reproducable since six months or so. It would not surprise me if this is the "broken svg library version" problem. Try updating to the latest version of librsvg. |
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From: <jol...@gm...> - 2007-03-26 10:35:49
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Hi everybody. 1) I just make a simple patch for web. It's a format one. I saw you use many of unquoted/simple quote variables. The patch just make the website uses double quotes. 2) Maybe a tabulation on sources could be great. 3)I'm translating pages to french. I'll send you files when it will be done. See you |
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From: Carsten H. (T. R. <ra...@ra...> - 2007-04-04 10:38:01
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:18:18 +0200 Michel BRIAND <mic...@fr...> babbled: > Hello > > in my new company, with a friend of mine, we have started a > "Linux Master Server" project: ie with FAI we install all new computers > automaticaly. We have chosen Debian Etch as a starting point but with a > few improvements. E17 is one of the most important ones. > > We ran into a few troubles with Entrance: > > 1/ > The PIDFILE defined in /etc/init.d/entrance does not match the real one > created by entranced. In the source tree I can see that it has been > fixed. Is it the case in the trunk ? Is your .deb up to date ? > > 2/ > Entrance does not run the Debian Xsession scheme. I've tried to change > the /etc/entrance/Xsession file but to no avail. Does anyone have a > solution or even a clue ? > > 3/ > Enlightenment has its main menu broken. > 3.1/ > The "Applications" dialog is obviously broken (graphicaly): > the left part of it is stucker in a rectangle in the left top > corner, unusable this is being broken and fixed up right now. it's now working again - but results may vary from distribution to distribution. i suspect its broken on debian due to the way debian splits up the applicatiosn menu config and has no "system default" one. (but has one for kde and one for gnome etc...) > 3.2/ > In this dialog the "regenerate menus" button, which did not > worked in the 12/03 .deb update, is no more visible. I can't say > if it works now ;) 'cause I can't click on it. > Is there a command line utility to create menus ? now it's not relevant. the applications config dialog is broken atm. > 3.3/ > I can drag a application from the "applications" dialog to the > Ibar : it works. But I would make a comment: the widget that is > under the mouse is a big rectangle taken from the app dialog > list, and it is not easy to drop it in the Ibar at the point > one's want to... since the mouse pointer is no more visible... > same as above. > Enlightenment has still a problem with svg: going through the icon theme > dialog, one would just dig into an svg directory and press the apply > button... > Bug reproducable since six months or so. this is a librsvg bug. you'd be amazed how buggy it is. > 5/ > The mixer applet (or module) is not usable: it simply does not work. It > starts and show a nice ruler but: > 5.1/ > Each time the applet receive a mouse button it opens and > activate the mute check box: that way you have always the mute > checked... > The ruler does not make the sound volume to change !?? > > 6/ > We would like to discuss about the media mounting/unmounting... It > would be nice to have a media menu in E to help new users to use > linux... And E17 deserve a better design than kde for this... Is there > anyone that wants to start a design discussion about this ? e17 has this already. it's filemanager handles dbus hal events, if you plug in removable media and hal finds it - e17 puts an icon in favorites - opening the folder in e's fm2 will auto-mount it and unmount when all windows are closed that use it. it's not perfect - but proof of concept works. the infrastructure is there - but needs work - fm2 needs a lot of work and i will get to it - if i can tame my email monster :) > ** But the picture is not so bad, I would say that E17 is in a good > shape and that it can be used by non-geek users (corporate users). > 80% of functions are working well, and the window manager does > its job perfectly. ** no - not there yet. it needs work - the problem is basically having the people who know the code well have the time to spend. the base libs are very solid now - it's the wm itself that needs work - filemanager needs completion so people can have their "icons on the desktop". i recently did a retake of the fm backend to remove "slow fs" problems. this broke a few things and needs work in fm2 to bring it even back up to where it was before. BUT it will also be able to simplify some things. this means file selectors, wallpaper browsers and more can be much more solid - and people can find and open their files, manage them simply without another extra fm (they can always use one anyway - e needs the fm for its own dialogs, etc. anyway). > I would like to thanks everyone that has worked hard in the last year > to make this real :) !!!! > > Best regards, > Michel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ra...@ra... 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) |
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