From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-14 22:34:25
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FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Enlightenment SVN <no-...@en...> Date: Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:58 PM Subject: E SVN: tiago IN trunk/THEMES: . efenniht efenniht/images To: enl...@li... Log: Efenniht theme for E17 In recent months, k-s, Marina and Tiago were working on a new theme for E17. Efenniht was devised to be clean and neutral. Its name (which means equinox) comes from the chromatic duality that was decided at the very beginning, with a dark theme (black and orange) and a bright one (white and blue) so that more people feel comfortable using it. Efenniht uses few animations, discrete contrasts between shades of gray and fine lines (colored) that outline the selected elements. The icons (shown next to the list) were removed due to their small size that didn't allow the user to relate them with the words to which they referred. The margins of the words in respect to the limits of the boxes/windows were increased, as well as the space between the words of lists. The two horizontal lines limit the objects and the inner line serves as a guide for a possible marking occurring during a mouse over event. In the future we plan to re-introduce some icons, by means of new E17 methods that allow optional icons (or forced ones), so we can have them for important/remarkable actions such as "logout", "run" and "settings". This new theme was started from the Black and White because this reflect the latest changes to E17. The code was broken into modules, in order to facilitate the development and future maintenance. The current code is 50% smaller than the Black and White theme, but this will change later on after implementing this new theme for less used modules to around 35%, which is still a sizable reduction. The images used were made mostly by the designer (congrats Marina) and have good quality (the sources of Photoshop and Illustrator will be made available soon). We have given attention to the possibility of scalable icons (see the folder icon in various sizes). Some changes in E code were necessary to enable the animations that we want, such as signals of selection for E_Icons, and allowing themes for some modules, such as Illume toggles. Some features that are still missing are the frame for iBox, which was not possible now because it is shared with other modules in which the frame was not desired, and we also skipped the vertical shelf for now, but help with this will be really appreciated. The current focus is to use the same concepts for elementary, so elementary-based applications may look the same with the E17 Efenniht. We're starting the elementary theme, but we'll need some help to finish it in time to be considered for upcoming release. Last but not least, most of the module icons were not done. We're balancing if we remove or do them, depends on the help we can get there :-) -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Tom H. <tom...@gm...> - 2010-07-15 01:10:01
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Looks nice! Heres a couple things I might change (if you agree)... 1. The text boxes look almost out of place being such a lithe grey. 2. The size of the toolbar in dialog boxes other than config panel. (See the Virtual Desktops dialog) 3. iBox looks fine the way it is... but the minimised icon needs to be bigger! (But yeah Im sure whole ever themes that will get around to it :) ) I would help with the icons, but Ive come to the conclusion that Im a miserable artist and thats what icons really are. Little bits of art. Congrats on a great theme :) Toma On 15 July 2010 08:33, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <bar...@pr...> wrote: >> FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. > > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. > > If you want to try it, check out > http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj > > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: bar...@gm... > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint > What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? > Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > |
From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-15 01:28:02
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: > Looks nice! Heres a couple things I might change (if you agree)... > > 1. The text boxes look almost out of place being such a lithe grey. That's something we talked a bit. While in our theme we can control them, in all other apps or with user documents it will be impossible to have dark background, so it would look odd. Imagine chrome/firefox, or openoffice. Actually we did it white at first, but then the contrast was too strong. > 2. The size of the toolbar in dialog boxes other than config panel. > (See the Virtual Desktops dialog) I guess you're talking about other dialog, as there is no toolbar in Virtual Desktops. If you mean the icon-less toolbars, then Marina did that on purpose to clearly differentiate from buttons. Maybe too much? :-) > 3. iBox looks fine the way it is... but the minimised icon needs to be > bigger! (But yeah Im sure whole ever themes that will get around to it > :) ) Actually what I'd like is to add some shelf support to create bigger ecore_evas (given some extra size) for alpha windows if composite is in use. In that case we could make the icons overflow nicely, with big "app" icons, and regular "iconified". But composite manager is not enabled by default, so we focused on the common case. > I would help with the icons, but Ive come to the conclusion that Im a > miserable artist and thats what icons really are. Little bits of art. Any help is appreciated. We'll publish the design assets and that may help. I'm pretty sure Marina can review and do some guidance. But so far we're more about removing the icons from the configurations and modules, some are just impossible to map to few words, not to say about an icon to fit in a list :-/ BR, -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Tom H. <tom...@gm...> - 2010-07-15 02:35:24
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I downloaded the .edj because Im lazy. :) On 15 July 2010 09:27, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: >> Looks nice! Heres a couple things I might change (if you agree)... >> >> 1. The text boxes look almost out of place being such a lithe grey. > > That's something we talked a bit. While in our theme we can control > them, in all other apps or with user documents it will be impossible > to have dark background, so it would look odd. Imagine chrome/firefox, > or openoffice. Actually we did it white at first, but then the > contrast was too strong. > I cant remember if theres a signal for 'Active input' and just displaying a number. I would say that the text boxes for virtual pager numbers (eg; |---x----| [3]) could be taken away completely and have a white number there. The details in wallpaper image selector dialog would also look nice there with no boxes at all. Then the active input text box (like the file input in the same dialog) would look ok being the colour it is. This might look nice with B&W too... Ill have a tinker. > >> 2. The size of the toolbar in dialog boxes other than config panel. >> (See the Virtual Desktops dialog) > > I guess you're talking about other dialog, as there is no toolbar in > Virtual Desktops. If you mean the icon-less toolbars, then Marina did > that on purpose to clearly differentiate from buttons. Maybe too much? > :-) > Errr YEP! There are so many widgets in the Virtual Desks dialog. They are a tad huge. > >> 3. iBox looks fine the way it is... but the minimised icon needs to be >> bigger! (But yeah Im sure whole ever themes that will get around to it >> :) ) > > Actually what I'd like is to add some shelf support to create bigger > ecore_evas (given some extra size) for alpha windows if composite is > in use. In that case we could make the icons overflow nicely, with big > "app" icons, and regular "iconified". But composite manager is not > enabled by default, so we focused on the common case. > > >> I would help with the icons, but Ive come to the conclusion that Im a >> miserable artist and thats what icons really are. Little bits of art. > > Any help is appreciated. We'll publish the design assets and that may > help. I'm pretty sure Marina can review and do some guidance. But so > far we're more about removing the icons from the configurations and > modules, some are just impossible to map to few words, not to say > about an icon to fit in a list :-/ > > BR, > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: bar...@gm... > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > |
From: H. İ. G. <ib...@pa...> - 2010-07-15 06:25:03
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:33:31 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <bar...@pr...> wrote: > > FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. > > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give > some feedback. Nice theme, i like it. Some little issue i have faced: Clock and systray gadgets cant be selected/right clicked. When i click the gadget on the desktop, the desktop changes but also the left menu appears. Slider button seems a bit big compared to the slider bar. -- H. İbrahim Güngör <ibrahim () pardus ! org ! tr> |
From: H. İ. G. <ib...@pa...> - 2010-07-15 06:31:10
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:02:49 +0300 "H. İbrahim Güngör" <ib...@pa...> wrote: > Nice theme, i like it. Some little issue i have faced: > > Clock and systray gadgets cant be selected/right clicked. > > When i click the gadget on the desktop, the desktop changes but also ^^^^^^ pager gadget -- H. İbrahim Güngör <ibrahim () pardus ! org ! tr> |
From: Eren T. <er...@pa...> - 2010-07-15 06:59:40
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:02:49AM +0300, H. İbrahim Güngör wrote: > When i click the gadget on the desktop, the desktop changes but also > the left menu appears. I cannot reproduce it on my system. The pager works fine. -- . Eren |
From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-15 12:00:09
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: > I downloaded the .edj because Im lazy. :) > > > On 15 July 2010 09:27, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: >>> Looks nice! Heres a couple things I might change (if you agree)... >>> >>> 1. The text boxes look almost out of place being such a lithe grey. >> >> That's something we talked a bit. While in our theme we can control >> them, in all other apps or with user documents it will be impossible >> to have dark background, so it would look odd. Imagine chrome/firefox, >> or openoffice. Actually we did it white at first, but then the >> contrast was too strong. >> > > I cant remember if theres a signal for 'Active input' and just > displaying a number. I would say that the text boxes for virtual pager > numbers (eg; |---x----| [3]) could be taken away completely and have a > white number there. The details in wallpaper image selector dialog > would also look nice there with no boxes at all. Then the active input > text box (like the file input in the same dialog) would look ok being > the colour it is. This might look nice with B&W too... Ill have a > tinker. I get what you mean, and it is worth a try. We kept it like that for compat, but it could be great to remove from non-editable "entries" (also sliders & related -- as you said). >>> 2. The size of the toolbar in dialog boxes other than config panel. >>> (See the Virtual Desktops dialog) >> >> I guess you're talking about other dialog, as there is no toolbar in >> Virtual Desktops. If you mean the icon-less toolbars, then Marina did >> that on purpose to clearly differentiate from buttons. Maybe too much? >> :-) >> > > Errr YEP! There are so many widgets in the Virtual Desks dialog. They > are a tad huge. upload screenshot to http://imgur.com? -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Atton J. <jon...@gm...> - 2010-07-16 14:01:27
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About the elementary theme. In elementary I have added some style (for example the invisible style of elm_pager). Do you plan to define them in your theme ? Should I remove these styles from the official elm-theme and add theme in my application ? 2010/7/15 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: > > I downloaded the .edj because Im lazy. :) > > > > > > On 15 July 2010 09:27, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Tom Haste <tom...@gm...> wrote: > >>> Looks nice! Heres a couple things I might change (if you agree)... > >>> > >>> 1. The text boxes look almost out of place being such a lithe grey. > >> > >> That's something we talked a bit. While in our theme we can control > >> them, in all other apps or with user documents it will be impossible > >> to have dark background, so it would look odd. Imagine chrome/firefox, > >> or openoffice. Actually we did it white at first, but then the > >> contrast was too strong. > >> > > > > I cant remember if theres a signal for 'Active input' and just > > displaying a number. I would say that the text boxes for virtual pager > > numbers (eg; |---x----| [3]) could be taken away completely and have a > > white number there. The details in wallpaper image selector dialog > > would also look nice there with no boxes at all. Then the active input > > text box (like the file input in the same dialog) would look ok being > > the colour it is. This might look nice with B&W too... Ill have a > > tinker. > > I get what you mean, and it is worth a try. We kept it like that for > compat, but it could be great to remove from non-editable "entries" > (also sliders & related -- as you said). > > > >>> 2. The size of the toolbar in dialog boxes other than config panel. > >>> (See the Virtual Desktops dialog) > >> > >> I guess you're talking about other dialog, as there is no toolbar in > >> Virtual Desktops. If you mean the icon-less toolbars, then Marina did > >> that on purpose to clearly differentiate from buttons. Maybe too much? > >> :-) > >> > > > > Errr YEP! There are so many widgets in the Virtual Desks dialog. They > > are a tad huge. > > upload screenshot to http://imgur.com? > > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: bar...@gm... > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint > What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? > Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enl...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Regards. |
From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-16 14:33:55
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Atton Jonathan <jon...@gm...> wrote: > About the elementary theme. > > In elementary I have added some style (for example the invisible style of > elm_pager). Do you plan to define them in your theme ? Should I remove these > styles from the official elm-theme and add theme in my application ? If it is only useful for your app, then yes. Elementary have many, many groups... but many of them are just layout with graphics. Tiago is focusing on the most used first, like button, checkbox, radio, bg... -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-15 00:33:41
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: > FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. If you want to try it, check out http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Christopher M. <cpm...@co...> - 2010-07-15 01:50:05
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On 7/14/2010 8:33 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <bar...@pr...> wrote: >> FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. > > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. > > If you want to try it, check out > http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj > > If it is in svn, why can it not be tried directly from there ? Does it not build or something ?? dh |
From: Gustavo S. B. <bar...@pr...> - 2010-07-15 02:00:07
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Christopher Michael <cpm...@co...> wrote: > On 7/14/2010 8:33 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> <bar...@pr...> wrote: >>> FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. >> >> BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. >> >> If you want to try it, check out >> http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj >> >> > If it is in svn, why can it not be tried directly from there ? Does it > not build or something ?? You have to svn checkout, then edje_cc it, maybe people just want to wget and try. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: bar...@gm... Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 |
From: Christopher M. <cpm...@co...> - 2010-07-15 02:01:41
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On 07/14/2010 09:59 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Christopher Michael > <cpm...@co...> wrote: >> On 7/14/2010 8:33 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >>> <bar...@pr...> wrote: >>>> FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. >>> >>> BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. >>> >>> If you want to try it, check out >>> http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj >>> >>> >> If it is in svn, why can it not be tried directly from there ? Does it >> not build or something ?? > > You have to svn checkout, then edje_cc it, maybe people just want to > wget and try. > Yea, that could be the case .. my point was that if it's in svn, why not try the "newest" one :) dh |
From: Samuel N. <nic...@gm...> - 2010-07-15 03:26:43
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On 15 July 2010 10:03, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <bar...@pr...> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <bar...@pr...> wrote: >> FYI, Efenniht-E17 made into SVN. > > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. > looks nice I have a clock as a gadget and am unable to select it for changes. |
From: Eren T. <er...@pa...> - 2010-07-15 06:59:52
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:33:31PM -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. > > If you want to try it, check out > http://people.profusion.mobi/~gustavo/efenniht.edj > Nice theme. IMHO, It would be better for start button to be circural instead of square. The default theme includes circual start button, and it looks really nice when you have transparent shelf. I am attaching the screenshot so that you can see the difference better. Default: http://picpaste.com/default-theme.png Efenniht: http://picpaste.com/efenniht-theme.png Regards, -- . Eren |
From: manio <ma...@sk...> - 2010-08-30 16:05:23
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On 07/15/2010 02:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. I tryed it yesterday and i'm impressed! I really like it. It's awesome!! :) ps. lack of menu icons is not a problem for me - IMHO it looks much better in this way. The only problem is with IBar/IBox icons - theese are too small. But i hope it will be fixed (or it is now - i am not using svn version yet). Good work guys !!! -- manio jabber/e-mail: ma...@sk... http://manio.skyboo.net |
From: P P. <pp...@gm...> - 2010-08-30 16:20:13
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On 08/30/2010 11:49 PM, manio wrote: > On 07/15/2010 02:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give some feedback. > > I tryed it yesterday and i'm impressed! > I really like it. It's awesome!! :) > > ps. lack of menu icons is not a problem for me - IMHO it looks much > better in this way. The only problem is with IBar/IBox icons - theese > are too small. But i hope it will be fixed (or it is now - i am not > using svn version yet). > > Good work guys !!! > I use it. It is very nice. Probably one of the best themes in e. Since you want feedback: Only problem I currently see is in configuring composite. There, if we go to for example: Effects -> Apps -> Add then the dialog that comes up seems to have a transparent b/g and so it is very hard to distinguish the text/buttons in that dialog from the one beneath it. |
From: P P. <pp...@gm...> - 2010-08-30 16:35:22
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On 08/31/2010 12:19 AM, P Purkayastha wrote: > On 08/30/2010 11:49 PM, manio wrote: >> On 07/15/2010 02:33 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> BTW, people that are using it, please raise your hand... and give >>> some feedback. >> >> I tryed it yesterday and i'm impressed! >> I really like it. It's awesome!! :) >> >> ps. lack of menu icons is not a problem for me - IMHO it looks much >> better in this way. The only problem is with IBar/IBox icons - theese >> are too small. But i hope it will be fixed (or it is now - i am not >> using svn version yet). >> >> Good work guys !!! >> > > I use it. It is very nice. Probably one of the best themes in e. > > Since you want feedback: > Only problem I currently see is in configuring composite. There, if we > go to for example: > Effects -> Apps -> Add > then the dialog that comes up seems to have a transparent b/g and so it > is very hard to distinguish the text/buttons in that dialog from the one > beneath it. Two other things that come to mind because the theme doesn't show the small icons: 1. Drag and drop from menu to ibar/itask-ng is still possible but there is no visual indication that we are dragging something until we hover over ibar/itask-ng. 2. Drag a window by the icon and drop it in to another desktop on the pager is now not possible any more. This is perhaps a feature very few people even know or use. |