[E-devel] Environnement de bureau - Wikipédia / Desktop environment

[Michel Briand <michelbriand@fr...>]

Hi all,

shall E deserve a word in these pages :

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environnement_de_bureau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment

Cheers,
Michel

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/emotion/src/modules/vlc

[Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster@ra...>]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:56:14 -0200 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<barbieri@...> babbled:

> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Enlightenment SVN
> <no-reply@...> wrote:
> > Log:
> >  vlc moduel was utterly wrong - methods wrong comapred to module struct
> > funcs. fixed. still broken. did this ever work? :)
> 
> also wrong is that it uses a thread and dispatch signals/callbacks
> from there, that will break applications/sooner or later. I don't know
> why this is done.

yeah. looks like this needs a re-do. lots of things "not right" here. :(

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Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/emotion/src/modules/vlc

[Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbieri@pr...>]

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Enlightenment SVN
<no-reply@...> wrote:
> Log:
>  vlc moduel was utterly wrong - methods wrong comapred to module struct funcs.
>  fixed. still broken. did this ever work? :)

also wrong is that it uses a thread and dispatch signals/callbacks
from there, that will break applications/sooner or later. I don't know
why this is done.

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Re: [E-devel] terminal application based on the efl.

[Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster@ra...>]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:46:58 -0200 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<barbieri@...> babbled:

> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Vincent Torri <vtorri@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > raster described on irc what would be done in evas so that a terminal app
> > can we written using the efl. I have put his ideas here:
> >
> > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Evas
> >
> > If someone is interested in working on this new evas object, he can raise
> > his hand in this thread :)
> 
> as I said at IRC, my bet would be to go with an image object and
> optimize it's use of damage_add to the image, so repaints would be
> optimized by evas.

difference: fonts. where are you going to get your fonts and glyphs from then?
implement your own font engine? if its a buffer canvas then you're back to
using evas objects again per char... which is nasty overhead.

> I don't see much difference from using an image instead of the real
> text block, maybe if you're using transparent bg you will get an extra
> clear. I don't think this would impact that much.
> 
> If someone wants to go implement this virtual keyboard, I guess it
> should keep the huge backlog as UTF8+escapes (that is, text) and keep
> around 2 extra height of pre-rendered image to speed up movements.
> Maybe do like other terminals and keep these split as extra image
> buffers, so you can cycle them (moving up will move the topmost image
> to bottom and redraw it)
> 
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Re: [E-devel] terminal application based on the efl.

[Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbieri@pr...>]

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Vincent Torri <vtorri@...> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> raster described on irc what would be done in evas so that a terminal app
> can we written using the efl. I have put his ideas here:
>
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Evas
>
> If someone is interested in working on this new evas object, he can raise
> his hand in this thread :)

as I said at IRC, my bet would be to go with an image object and
optimize it's use of damage_add to the image, so repaints would be
optimized by evas.

I don't see much difference from using an image instead of the real
text block, maybe if you're using transparent bg you will get an extra
clear. I don't think this would impact that much.

If someone wants to go implement this virtual keyboard, I guess it
should keep the huge backlog as UTF8+escapes (that is, text) and keep
around 2 extra height of pre-rendered image to speed up movements.
Maybe do like other terminals and keep these split as extra image
buffers, so you can cycle them (moving up will move the topmost image
to bottom and redraw it)

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http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
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Re: [E-devel] E SVN: aron trunk/e/po

[Yasufumi Haga <yasufumi.haga@ni...>]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:40:01 -0700
"Enlightenment SVN" <no-reply@...> wrote:

| Log:
|   Updated ja.po by Yasufumi Haga <yasufumi.haga@...>.
| Author:       aron
| Date:         2008-10-19 02:40:01 -0700 (Sun, 19 Oct 2008)
| New Revision: 36803
| 
| Modified:
|   trunk/e/po/ja.po 

Thanks for commiting ja.po, but I'm afraid this file is committed to
a wrong place. This file is not for E17 but E16 as I wrote in my 
previous mail to E-intl. Would someone please put it to a right place?
Thanks in advance.
--Yasufumi

[E-devel] terminal application based on the efl.

[Vincent Torri <vtorri@un...>]

Hey,

raster described on irc what would be done in evas so that a terminal app 
can we written using the efl. I have put his ideas here:

http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Evas

If someone is interested in working on this new evas object, he can raise 
his hand in this thread :)

Vincent

Re: [E-devel] E SVN: raster trunk/TMP/st/elementary/src/lib

[Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <raster@ra...>]

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:33:18 -0200 "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri"
<barbieri@...> babbled:

> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Enlightenment SVN
> <no-reply@...> wrote:
> > Log:
> >  defer recalc for faster init and changes.
> 
> isnt't it possible to defer using smart "calculate" callback? That way
> you could avoid having to keep ->changed and it's all in one place.

different "changed" - changed only in the "text content itself changed". thats
the only changed i care about. change of stacking, width, height etc. not
important :) but probably could use changes smart callback too.

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