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From: Gregg E. <g_a...@ya...> - 2013-10-19 06:53:54
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On 10/18/2013 10:35 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Which CDC study? > The one that says salt is bad > > http://www.cdc.gov/salt/ > > > or the many that says salt is not bad? > > http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/11/cdc-oops-salt-is-not-actually-dangerous-and-cutting-it-may-be-harmful/- > this one and more They haven't got around to updating their site? Crazy. Until this recent study, the "salt is bad" baloney was based on some quite bad "science", mainly a test using rodents fed massive amounts of salt for their body weight. There was (still is) a lot of such "science" done then bogusly extrapolated to humans. Salt is bad, if you eat it by the pound. |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 14:53:38
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Gene, that is really good news ... I'll tell my friends in Warsaw that they will have to cancel their new Yacht purchase since your knee will be ok! ;-) Apparently... you are not as old as you feel. :-) Dave On 10/18/2013 10:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 October 2013 10:08:09 Peter Blodow did opine: > >> Am 16.10.2013 20:36, schrieb Gene Heskett: >>> Looks like I'll pass in any event. Hopefully I find out tomorrow how >>> much it will cost me to get a left knee that blocks x-rays. >> Gene, >> having read about all this fuss with US health insurance, in your case >> it seems to me having one would be helpful... >> >> Peter > Well, TBT I haven't checked into it, primarily because you have to give > them way too much info to even get an estimate. From some other horror > stories, just the 2 notations on the present conditions chart for HPT and > DM-II would likely be well above $2000/month with a $5000 deductible. > There is nothing affordable about that. And its unreal considering that > the scripts for that are under $30/month, somebody > > ATM, the supplemental policy is under $200/month, and the deductible is > $250. If they don't force me to, I am NOT opening that for renegotiation. > > $30k-35k is about the going price for a replacement, out of my reach w/o > using quite a bit of the wifes 403b's. That isn't on MY agenda. > > But, he took quite a few pix yesterday & when he came back from looking at > the pix, asked if I was as old as it said on the chart, I was in great > shape, for a 50yo. He seems to think I did something to the an interior > ligament, that that it would in due time stretch back out for full > extension motion. So basically nothing but stretching exercises & made > another appointment for late November to check progress. > > In the meantime, I'm suitably miserable. Sigh. But it is getting better, > just at speeds typical for the DM-II on the chart. Eg, slow. > > Cheers, Gene |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 15:13:25
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Yes, the US healthcare system has become incredibly "corrupt", in collusion with the Government policies. Something had to be done to change the system... Time will tell if this is a move forward or not. I do know that for a few people I know, this will improve their current situation (which has been really bad..- working poor ) Both work 50+ hours per week and they scrape by and have huge insurance payments to keep their chronically sick kid well (a pre-existing condition). Time will tell. Dave On 10/18/2013 10:59 AM, jrmitchellj . wrote: > It just bothers me to no end that Insurance companies have managed > (finagled) themselves into the position of "gate keeper" to health care. > In doing so have pushed the cost of said health care to the moon. > I wish I could negotiate similar rates to what the insurance companies have > done, and not have to buy insurance. I would be money way ahead! > > And now the government mandate. > > I feel soooo sorry for the next three to four generations! > > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. > jrm...@gm... > (818)324-7573 > > > “Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies.” — Ron Paul > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Gene Heskett <ghe...@wd...> wrote: > >> On Friday 18 October 2013 10:08:09 Peter Blodow did opine: >> >>> Am 16.10.2013 20:36, schrieb Gene Heskett: >>>> Looks like I'll pass in any event. Hopefully I find out tomorrow how >>>> much it will cost me to get a left knee that blocks x-rays. >>> Gene, >>> having read about all this fuss with US health insurance, in your case >>> it seems to me having one would be helpful... >>> >>> Peter >> Well, TBT I haven't checked into it, primarily because you have to give >> them way too much info to even get an estimate. From some other horror >> stories, just the 2 notations on the present conditions chart for HPT and >> DM-II would likely be well above $2000/month with a $5000 deductible. >> There is nothing affordable about that. And its unreal considering that >> the scripts for that are under $30/month, somebody >> >> ATM, the supplemental policy is under $200/month, and the deductible is >> $250. If they don't force me to, I am NOT opening that for renegotiation. >> >> $30k-35k is about the going price for a replacement, out of my reach w/o >> using quite a bit of the wifes 403b's. That isn't on MY agenda. >> >> But, he took quite a few pix yesterday & when he came back from looking at >> the pix, asked if I was as old as it said on the chart, I was in great >> shape, for a 50yo. He seems to think I did something to the an interior >> ligament, that that it would in due time stretch back out for full >> extension motion. So basically nothing but stretching exercises & made >> another appointment for late November to check progress. >> >> In the meantime, I'm suitably miserable. Sigh. But it is getting better, >> just at speeds typical for the DM-II on the chart. Eg, slow. >> >> Cheers, Gene >> -- >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> -Ed Howdershelt (Author) >> >> Truly simple systems... require infinite testing. >> -- Norman Augustine >> A pen in the hand of this president is far more >> dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of >> law-abiding citizens. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> October Webinars: Code for Performance >> Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. >> Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most >> from >> the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> Emc...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > October Webinars: Code for Performance > Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from > the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-18 15:48:10
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On Friday 18 October 2013 11:37:40 Dave Cole did opine:
> Gene, that is really good news ...
> I'll tell my friends in Warsaw that they will have to cancel their new
> Yacht purchase since your knee will be ok! ;-)
>
Chuckle. Yeah, as an old Iowa farm kid, doing what you can with what you
have has never been educated out of me. Having these cnc machinery toys
has let me invent, often from the scrap iron pile, lots of things I
couldn't afford to buy. Funny part is, you don't go shopping, and then
make, I tend to make & then go shopping to see if I could have bought it
cheaper & faster. I sometimes find I could have, but I like that silly
grin doing it yourself generates.
> Apparently... you are not as old as you feel. :-)
I still feel with my fingers, but it doesn't do me a whole lot of good, see
the DM-II note. And Dee doesn't care either since they took her flowerless
body off the HRT 20 years back. Not quite a shrug, but close.
> Dave
Cheers, Gene
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
law-abiding citizens.
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 16:02:05
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On 18 October 2013 16:48, Gene Heskett <ghe...@wd...> wrote: > Funny part is, you don't go shopping, and then > make, I tend to make & then go shopping to see if I could have bought it > cheaper & faster. I quite often go shopping in unexpected places when I decide to make something on a sunday or late at night. It's amazing what useful material you can find inside items sold by Ikea or 24-hr supermarkets. As an example, Ikea "Grundtal" is quite a lot of stainless steel tube for not a lot of money, and available on Sunday (here at least). http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00011428/ -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-18 16:20:02
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On Friday 18 October 2013 12:05:22 andy pugh did opine: > On 18 October 2013 16:48, Gene Heskett <ghe...@wd...> wrote: > > Funny part is, you don't go shopping, and then > > make, I tend to make & then go shopping to see if I could have bought > > it cheaper & faster. > > I quite often go shopping in unexpected places when I decide to make > something on a sunday or late at night. It's amazing what useful > material you can find inside items sold by Ikea or 24-hr supermarkets. > > As an example, Ikea "Grundtal" is quite a lot of stainless steel tube Looks like, for 12 or 17 pounds S., not too shabby for a Sunday. But I don't have anything to weld it with, limited to MIG, with steel or alu wire & have never tried the alu wire. IIRC that SS needs a TIG? > for not a lot of money, and available on Sunday (here at least). > http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00011428/ And obviously you have learned to work with that which you can get, or already have. And while we have no local IKEA (nearest I'm aware of is west of Pittsburgh PA on US 60 headed toward the PIT airport, 2.75+ hours away on the superslab), we have an ALDI, but they're 99% grocery oriented here. Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 15:56:48
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On 18 October 2013 16:14, Dave Cole <lin...@gm...> wrote: > Something had to be done to change the system... Time will tell if this > is a move forward or not. Not wanting to start a discussion of this subject (which seems incredibly emotive) on this inappropriate forum, but I do think I like the way things work here. My dad is 73. He got a new knee last year. He went to the doctor with knee trouble, the doctor said "you need a new knee", he got a new knee a few months later. That was it, no bills to pay, no having to argue a case with anyone. My (possibly erroneous) understanding is that we actually pay less for our health service, on average, than do folk in the US. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 16:51:48
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If you have a torch, Mapp or Acetylene/Air at least, you can silver solder Stainless. Which is probably the way to go if it is thin tube. Dave On 10/18/2013 12:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 October 2013 12:05:22 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 18 October 2013 16:48, Gene Heskett <ghe...@wd...> wrote: >>> Funny part is, you don't go shopping, and then >>> make, I tend to make & then go shopping to see if I could have bought >>> it cheaper & faster. >> I quite often go shopping in unexpected places when I decide to make >> something on a sunday or late at night. It's amazing what useful >> material you can find inside items sold by Ikea or 24-hr supermarkets. >> >> As an example, Ikea "Grundtal" is quite a lot of stainless steel tube > Looks like, for 12 or 17 pounds S., not too shabby for a Sunday. But I > don't have anything to weld it with, limited to MIG, with steel or alu wire > & have never tried the alu wire. IIRC that SS needs a TIG? > >> for not a lot of money, and available on Sunday (here at least). >> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00011428/ > And obviously you have learned to work with that which you can get, or > already have. And while we have no local IKEA (nearest I'm aware of is > west of Pittsburgh PA on US 60 headed toward the PIT airport, 2.75+ hours > away on the superslab), we have an ALDI, but they're 99% grocery oriented > here. > > Cheers, Gene |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-18 17:35:16
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On Friday 18 October 2013 13:31:43 Dave Cole did opine: > If you have a torch, Mapp or Acetylene/Air at least, you can silver > solder Stainless. Which is probably the way to go if it is thin tube. > > Dave I have a MAPP kit, bought it new several years ago. Its worthless, the fire is not controllable. Never was from pulling it out of the blisterpack. > On 10/18/2013 12:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 18 October 2013 12:05:22 andy pugh did opine: > >> On 18 October 2013 16:48, Gene Heskett <ghe...@wd...> wrote: > >>> Funny part is, you don't go shopping, and then > >>> make, I tend to make & then go shopping to see if I could have > >>> bought it cheaper & faster. > >> > >> I quite often go shopping in unexpected places when I decide to make > >> something on a sunday or late at night. It's amazing what useful > >> material you can find inside items sold by Ikea or 24-hr > >> supermarkets. > >> > >> As an example, Ikea "Grundtal" is quite a lot of stainless steel tube > > > > Looks like, for 12 or 17 pounds S., not too shabby for a Sunday. But > > I don't have anything to weld it with, limited to MIG, with steel or > > alu wire & have never tried the alu wire. IIRC that SS needs a TIG? > > > >> for not a lot of money, and available on Sunday (here at least). > >> http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00011428/ > > > > And obviously you have learned to work with that which you can get, or > > already have. And while we have no local IKEA (nearest I'm aware of > > is west of Pittsburgh PA on US 60 headed toward the PIT airport, > > 2.75+ hours away on the superslab), we have an ALDI, but they're 99% > > grocery oriented here. > > > > Cheers, Gene > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ October Webinars: Code for Performance > Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most > from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and > register > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135031&iu=/4140/ostg.cl > ktrk _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Alaska: A prelude to "No." A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-18 17:05:48
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A few years ago my wife was in the ICU for 10 days and then a regular room for about another 10 days, almost lost her. Since then she has recovered nicely. :-) About a month later, we got a big envelope with from the hospital with an itemized bill in it. The total cost was close to $300K. Fortunately we had insurance that was "ok" but we still spent a lot of money, about $15K on medical bills. We hit every out of pocket maximum that was possible and we argued with the hospital and the insurance company for the next 6+ months over the bills. There are literally millions of people in the US without any health insurance. That hospital bill would have bankrupted us if we did not have health insurance.. Dave On 10/18/2013 11:56 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 18 October 2013 16:14, Dave Cole <lin...@gm...> wrote: > >> Something had to be done to change the system... Time will tell if this >> is a move forward or not. > Not wanting to start a discussion of this subject (which seems > incredibly emotive) on this inappropriate forum, but I do think I like > the way things work here. > My dad is 73. He got a new knee last year. He went to the doctor with > knee trouble, the doctor said "you need a new knee", he got a new knee > a few months later. That was it, no bills to pay, no having to argue a > case with anyone. > My (possibly erroneous) understanding is that we actually pay less for > our health service, on average, than do folk in the US. > |
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From: Gregg E. <g_a...@ya...> - 2013-10-19 01:42:47
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Anyone with knee problems from damaged or worn cartilage, ask your doc about hyaluronic acid injections. Once a week for six weeks, right into the joint. Works on most people as long as things aren't so far gone there's no cartilage and it's down to bone on bone. Hyaluronic acid is what's naturally in the fluid in the joints and the body's production of it decreases over time. It's used to maintain the condition of cartilage. Taking it orally doesn't work, gets broken down by stomach acid, has to be shot in direct just like greasing a car's suspension. ;) My 69 year old mother had it done to both her knees, help a huge amount with pain and it keeps getting better. Officially the improvement keeps going up to six months as the cartilage repairs and rebuilds. Your mileage may vary. Amazingly, Medicare/Medicaid suffered a fit of sanity and this far cheaper than joint replacement procedure is covered, at least for now. Dunno how the "affordable" care act will change it. BTW: Do a Google on CDC salt study. You'll likely be surprised or perhaps "Ha! Knew that was wrong all along!". |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-19 03:26:54
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On Friday 18 October 2013 23:01:16 Gregg Eshelman did opine:
> Anyone with knee problems from damaged or worn cartilage, ask your doc
> about hyaluronic acid injections. Once a week for six weeks, right into
> the joint.
>
That I will do. Strangely, the majority of the deep aching pain has
descended into the top 4" or so of that muscle centered in the back of the
calf, a few inches below the joint. But it doesn't seem to be keeping me
from hobbling around the house.
> Works on most people as long as things aren't so far gone there's no
> cartilage and it's down to bone on bone.
>
> Hyaluronic acid is what's naturally in the fluid in the joints and the
> body's production of it decreases over time. It's used to maintain the
> condition of cartilage.
>
> Taking it orally doesn't work, gets broken down by stomach acid, has to
> be shot in direct just like greasing a car's suspension. ;)
Some of the "joint" compounds brag about having it. :)
>
> My 69 year old mother had it done to both her knees, help a huge amount
> with pain and it keeps getting better. Officially the improvement keeps
> going up to six months as the cartilage repairs and rebuilds. Your
> mileage may vary.
>
> Amazingly, Medicare/Medicaid suffered a fit of sanity and this far
> cheaper than joint replacement procedure is covered, at least for now.
> Dunno how the "affordable" care act will change it.
So, strike while the iron is hot IOW. ;-)
>
> BTW: Do a Google on CDC salt study. You'll likely be surprised or
> perhaps "Ha! Knew that was wrong all along!".
FWIW, I have never been one to reach for the salt shaker for everything I
eat. Not even on french fries if they're done right. Heavy meat eater
though and most of the seasonings I like have a salt base, so when shopping
for seasonings, I purposely choose the no/low salt version. Hot sauces ok
as long as it doesn't smoke when you open the bottle. I have seen some
that did. Ditto horseradish, my grandfather made his own, put it up in
baby food jars. One of his neighbors, in about 1941, in for lunch while
shocking oats, once asked why he didn't put it up in larger containers
since he used so much of it. Two words: Spontaneous combustion. The
neighbor took half a teaspoon to check, and when he could speak again, had
to agree it needed a warning label. I use the real thing, but sparingly.
That creamy stuff you get in bags from the fast food places should be
arrested for being contaminated.
Cheers, Gene
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
AMAZING BUT TRUE ...
There is so much sand in Northern Africa that if it were spread out
it
would completely cover the Sahara Desert.
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
law-abiding citizens.
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From: Erik C. <dv...@in...> - 2013-10-19 08:48:28
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On 18.10.13 16:56, andy pugh wrote: > My dad is 73. He got a new knee last year. He went to the doctor with > knee trouble, the doctor said "you need a new knee", he got a new knee > a few months later. That was it, no bills to pay, no having to argue a > case with anyone. The rest of the world sympathises with the old in America, and shakes its head in disbelief at the "we have jobs, so we have health care, so you go hop" philosophy which has just shut the country down, I figure. Here in Australia it's similar to UK. My 84 yo mother had two hip replacements at no cost beyond some months of waiting because she had no health insurance. (It's free for pensioners.) Recently she fell and busted one implant half out of the end of the tibia. Surgery to reinforce the bone, and a couple of months in hospital - no cost. (If you're affluent, then you pay, though. It's about equalising access.) Erik -- Raging bushfires already, just 6 weeks after winter's end. Is it global warming? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-18/communities-of-winmalee-springwood-shattered-by-fire/5032736 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-17/worst-bushfire-emergency-in-a-decade/5029908 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-18/father-tells-of-trauma-faced-by-volunteer-firefighter/5030864 |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-19 14:19:24
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On 10/19/2013 7:56 AM, Eric Keller wrote: > It's the working poor that don't have health care. Exactly.. And the number of working poor in the US is climbing at a rapid rate.. I know a bunch of them and before they lost their good paying manufacturing jobs I would have considered them middle class.. No more.. The previous middle class family around the corner now burns wood to keep the house warm and that is not by choice.. they could not afford the gas bill. Dave |
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From: Dave C. <lin...@gm...> - 2013-10-27 21:08:49
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On 10/27/2013 10:43 AM, dave wrote: > On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 10:20 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: >> On 10/19/2013 7:56 AM, Eric Keller wrote: >>> It's the working poor that don't have health care. >> Exactly.. And the number of working poor in the US is climbing at a >> rapid rate.. I know a bunch of them and before they lost their good >> paying manufacturing jobs I would have considered them middle class.. >> No more.. >> >> The previous middle class family around the corner now burns wood to >> keep the house warm and that is not by choice.. they could not afford >> the gas bill. >> >> Dave > Interesting. Here wood is 100+ a cord, pellets in the same range a ton, > my last delivery of propane was $2.16/gal. Now I need to rerun the > calculations to see how the propane balances with electricity at > 0.0838/KwH. > > Dave I'm in Northern Indiana, in a rural area, and the local tree trimmers will drop off dump truck loads of tree trunks just for the asking. The emerald ash borer has made for a surplus of available wood. My neighbor must have well over 20 tons of logs in their side yard. However the wood has to be cut, split, and dried and I don't think they have all of that figured out. He is just now cutting and splitting wood that was dropped off this summer. Dave |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-27 21:38:42
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On Sunday 27 October 2013 17:13:45 Dave Cole did opine:
> On 10/27/2013 10:43 AM, dave wrote:
> > On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 10:20 -0400, Dave Cole wrote:
> >> On 10/19/2013 7:56 AM, Eric Keller wrote:
> >>> It's the working poor that don't have health care.
> >>
> >> Exactly.. And the number of working poor in the US is climbing at
> >> a rapid rate.. I know a bunch of them and before they lost their
> >> good paying manufacturing jobs I would have considered them middle
> >> class.. No more..
> >>
> >> The previous middle class family around the corner now burns wood to
> >> keep the house warm and that is not by choice.. they could not
> >> afford the gas bill.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> > Interesting. Here wood is 100+ a cord, pellets in the same range a
> > ton, my last delivery of propane was $2.16/gal. Now I need to rerun
> > the calculations to see how the propane balances with electricity at
> > 0.0838/KwH.
> >
> > Dave
>
> I'm in Northern Indiana, in a rural area, and the local tree trimmers
> will drop off dump truck loads of tree trunks just for the asking. The
> emerald ash borer has made for a surplus of available wood. My neighbor
> must have well over 20 tons of logs in their side yard. However the
> wood has to be cut, split, and dried and I don't think they have all of
> that figured out. He is just now cutting and splitting wood that was
> dropped off this summer.
>
> Dave
A word to you folks who are lucky enough to have a "surplus" of white ash.
It, to me is not firewood, but some of the most strikingly beautiful
furniture wood extant. Its also very strong & machines well in the wood
shop. Once dry, it seems dead stable.
My next door neighbors wanted a smaller entertainment center for the front
room for game playing etc & since I had been hauling white ash back from
the nephews dairy farm in NYS, I volunteered to make it out of white ash.
I made the top, bearing the tv's weight, out of native cut 2x6's edge glued
to get the width, with a finished thickness in the 1.5" range, with a
dovetailed on cap on the ends to hide the end grain, then made it float
1/4" above the base cabinet for heat management of the gear on the next
shelf down. I think its the best piece of furniture I've made. I'm told
it does get the oohs and aahs from visitors. I've also instructed them
that anyone wanting a similar one needs to think north of $500 as it took
quite a while to do. That isn't what they paid of course, good neighbors
are good to have.
Cheers, Gene
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Sleep -- the most beautiful experience in life -- except drink.
-- W. C. Fields
A pen in the hand of this president is far more
dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of
law-abiding citizens.
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From: Steve B. <st...@pi...> - 2013-10-28 01:41:30
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:38:34 -0400, you wrote: >A word to you folks who are lucky enough to have a "surplus" of white ash. >It, to me is not firewood, but some of the most strikingly beautiful >furniture wood extant. Its also very strong & machines well in the wood >shop. Once dry, it seems dead stable. Ash is being cut down here and burnt on site due to Ash dieback disease http://www.forestry.gov.uk/chalara Not sure what species your "white ash" is but beware! BTW some of the nicest wood grains I've ever worked with have come from diseased Elm and Sycamore ;) Steve Blackmore -- |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2013-10-28 01:50:41
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On 28 October 2013 01:41, Steve Blackmore <st...@pi...> wrote: > BTW some of the nicest wood grains I've ever worked with have come from > diseased Elm and Sycamore ;) Spalted Beech is lovely. http://www.creative-woodturning.com/images/vases/spalted_beech_vase1.jpg -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto |
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From: Gene H. <ghe...@wd...> - 2013-10-28 02:07:19
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On Sunday 27 October 2013 21:53:51 Steve Blackmore did opine: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 17:38:34 -0400, you wrote: > >A word to you folks who are lucky enough to have a "surplus" of white > >ash. It, to me is not firewood, but some of the most strikingly > >beautiful furniture wood extant. Its also very strong & machines well > >in the wood shop. Once dry, it seems dead stable. > > Ash is being cut down here and burnt on site due to Ash dieback disease > > http://www.forestry.gov.uk/chalara > > Not sure what species your "white ash" is but beware! > > BTW some of the nicest wood grains I've ever worked with have come from > diseased Elm and Sycamore ;) Some of this came from trees harvested on Rusty's dairy farm, in western NY State, and some of it is local (WV), from trees killed by horses eating the bark & ringing the tree so they were being cleared out of bottom land pasture not far from here. None have the dark brown heartwood shown in one pix of that link to the uk's problems. Cream white wood, ray flecked like 1/4 sawn oak, but much tighter grained so TiteBond-III doesn't bleed out the other side when clamping up. I have about 200 feet of 1x6 and about 100 foot of 2x6, with the 2 by presently clamped to a steel frame & seasoning straighter than if just stickered in a pile. Been clamped up for about 4 years now, bout time to do something with it next summer. :) > Steve Blackmore > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ October Webinars: Code for Performance > Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. > Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most > from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and > register > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991&iu=/4140/ostg.cl > ktrk _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. |
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