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From: Viesturs L. <vie...@gm...> - 2025-10-05 18:43:41
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False positive feedback - I disconnected for a moment as I had to attend my daughter for sleep and now I cannot reconnect back - I am asked to login into Debian Salsa. Viesturs svētd., 2025. g. 5. okt., plkst. 21:22 — lietotājs Viesturs Lācis (<vie...@gm...>) rakstīja: > > No, it does not require registration. You just need to specify your > name to be displayed under your face (if you turn on your camera) > > Viesturs > > svētd., 2025. g. 5. okt., plkst. 20:54 — lietotājs Brad Collette > (<sho...@gm...>) rakstīja: > > > > The meeting link requires an account to log in? > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 4:33 PM steffen_moeller--- via Emc-developers < > > emc...@li...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Aargh! > > > > > > Hansu spotted it. CEST is what I had meant - Sunday at 20:00 Central > > > European Summer Time, which according to https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ > > > is 14:00 of Eastern Daylight Saving Time. > > > > > > Sorry for the noise and many thanks to Hansu. > > > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.10.25 um 18:56 schrieb Steffen Möller via Emc-developers: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. > > > You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick > > > Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our > > > release manager in particular. > > > > > > > > > > Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance > > > athttps://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . > > > > > > > > > > Hope to see you soon! > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 > > > > >> Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers"< > > > emc...@li...> > > > > >> An:emc...@li... > > > > >> CC: "Steffen Möller"<ste...@gm...> > > > > >> Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote > > > on when this should happen > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear all, > > > > >> > > > > >> I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours > > > after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a > > > perfect time and I happily found > > > > >> > > > > >> https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk > > > > >> > > > > >> to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that > > > one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. > > > > >> > > > > >> We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. Onhttps:// > > > yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas > > > and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be > > > particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes > > > and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team > > > building. > > > > >> > > > > >> Looking forward to it, > > > > >> Steffen > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Emc-developers mailing list > > > > >> Emc...@li... > > > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > > Emc...@li... > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > -- > > Brad Collette > > 573-427-7132 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: Viesturs L. <vie...@gm...> - 2025-10-05 18:23:16
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No, it does not require registration. You just need to specify your name to be displayed under your face (if you turn on your camera) Viesturs svētd., 2025. g. 5. okt., plkst. 20:54 — lietotājs Brad Collette (<sho...@gm...>) rakstīja: > > The meeting link requires an account to log in? > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 4:33 PM steffen_moeller--- via Emc-developers < > emc...@li...> wrote: > > > > > > > Aargh! > > > > Hansu spotted it. CEST is what I had meant - Sunday at 20:00 Central > > European Summer Time, which according to https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ > > is 14:00 of Eastern Daylight Saving Time. > > > > Sorry for the noise and many thanks to Hansu. > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > Am 01.10.25 um 18:56 schrieb Steffen Möller via Emc-developers: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. > > You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick > > Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our > > release manager in particular. > > > > > > > > Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance > > athttps://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . > > > > > > > > Hope to see you soon! > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Steffen > > > > > > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 > > > >> Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers"< > > emc...@li...> > > > >> An:emc...@li... > > > >> CC: "Steffen Möller"<ste...@gm...> > > > >> Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote > > on when this should happen > > > >> > > > >> Dear all, > > > >> > > > >> I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours > > after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a > > perfect time and I happily found > > > >> > > > >> https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk > > > >> > > > >> to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that > > one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. > > > >> > > > >> We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. Onhttps:// > > yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas > > and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be > > particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes > > and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team > > building. > > > >> > > > >> Looking forward to it, > > > >> Steffen > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Emc-developers mailing list > > > >> Emc...@li... > > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > > Emc...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > -- > Brad Collette > 573-427-7132 > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: Brad C. <sho...@gm...> - 2025-10-05 17:51:51
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The meeting link requires an account to log in? On Wed, Oct 1, 2025 at 4:33 PM steffen_moeller--- via Emc-developers < emc...@li...> wrote: > > > Aargh! > > Hansu spotted it. CEST is what I had meant - Sunday at 20:00 Central > European Summer Time, which according to https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ > is 14:00 of Eastern Daylight Saving Time. > > Sorry for the noise and many thanks to Hansu. > > Steffen > > > > Am 01.10.25 um 18:56 schrieb Steffen Möller via Emc-developers: > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. > You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick > Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our > release manager in particular. > > > > > > Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance > athttps://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . > > > > > > Hope to see you soon! > > > > > > Best, > > > Steffen > > > > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 > > >> Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers"< > emc...@li...> > > >> An:emc...@li... > > >> CC: "Steffen Möller"<ste...@gm...> > > >> Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote > on when this should happen > > >> > > >> Dear all, > > >> > > >> I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours > after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a > perfect time and I happily found > > >> > > >> https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk > > >> > > >> to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that > one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. > > >> > > >> We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. Onhttps:// > yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas > and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be > particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes > and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team > building. > > >> > > >> Looking forward to it, > > >> Steffen > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Emc-developers mailing list > > >> Emc...@li... > > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-developers mailing list > > > Emc...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > -- Brad Collette 573-427-7132 |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-04 13:53:11
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 22:31, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: > > Unfortunately, Any mitigations possible have already been done in the current bookworm ISO. They are mostly hardware specific. The only suggested improvement would be to install gedit as its used by default in the ini file EDITOR value and we install Geany. That's not intended to be the case, see: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/5947bb74b5cb267da1d96e11609e8a07ee12a991 But it looks like 46 mentions of gedit still exist. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: gene h. <ghe...@sh...> - 2025-10-04 13:07:36
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On 10/3/25 17:29, rodw wrote: > Unfortunately, Any mitigations possible have already been done in the current bookworm ISO. They are mostly hardware specific. The only suggested improvement would be to install gedit as its used by default in the ini file EDITOR value and we install Geany. Which is correct. gedit has destroyed my work enough times its now removed here. It (gedit) will play 52 pickup with your code, scrambling your work at some point, I got tired of starting a new config from square one. > > With the help of another member, I reworked the 2.9 Getting Linuxcnc docs to include many of the suggested mitigations but that was removed from the docs with the release of 2.9.3. > > Rod > > > > > On 2025-10-04 06:05, andy pugh <bod...@gm...> wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 20:57, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: >>> First consider if its necessary to release a new ISO. >> I have seen complaints that the ISO installs 2.9.4.... >> >>> There isn't any way in a custom ISO to mitigate all of the latency issues that have arisen since the release of Debian 11 (Which we did not experience until 2.9 was released on Debian 12). >> Is there any way to mitigate _some_ of them? (and do you have any >> references to these problems?) >> >> -- >> atp >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is >> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and >> lunatics." >> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-developers mailing list >> Emc...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Don't poison our oceans, interdict drugs at the src. |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-04 11:10:30
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On Mon, 29 Sept 2025 at 17:32, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers <emc...@li...> wrote: > > The bitlength should be 4096 (https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning). > I do not have any immediate idea. The Debian developer keys should be > distributed already with our users, so I guess they could verify > the package if I or Petter signs it. Also, I read about a repository > signed by multiple keys, but have not found any further respective > instructions - guess something like Looking at this further, it seems that the Release and Release.gpg file in each distribution repository are signed individually. Currently these use the "EMC Archive Signing Key" (that I have) https://github.com/LinuxCNC/infrastructure/blob/master/update-deb-archive#L34 So we just need to sign Trixie+ with a new, longer key. Currently the key is installed either by the user running this script: https://www.linuxcnc.org/linuxcnc-install.sh Or is included on the ISO: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc-live-build/tree/bookworm/config/archives I think that the script and ISO could simply both install the new key in addition to the old one, and all should be well. So that just leaves the task of creating a new key and getting it on to the Ubuntu keyserver. Does anyone know enough about keys to know if the keys in our live-build are signed by an authority? (or can we only tell that from the private key, that AFAIK only myself and Seb have) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: Peter W. <pc...@me...> - 2025-10-03 22:31:44
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2025, andy pugh wrote: > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 22:49:00 +0100 > From: andy pugh <bod...@gm...> > Reply-To: EMC developers <emc...@li...> > To: EMC developers <emc...@li...> > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.9.6 ISO > > On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 22:31, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: > With the help of another member, I reworked the 2.9 Getting Linuxcnc docs to include many of the suggested mitigations but that was removed from the docs with the release of 2.9.3. Could the RealTek 8168 DKMS driver be included in the ISO, as default kernel driver for RealTek 8111/8168/8169 has such bad latency (often 10 ms or more) as to be generally useless for Ethernet connected devices. Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-03 21:49:49
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 22:31, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: > With the help of another member, I reworked the 2.9 Getting Linuxcnc docs to include many of the suggested mitigations but that was removed from the docs with the release of 2.9.3. I doubt that was deliberate. Would it be a good idea to put them back? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: rodw <ro...@ve...> - 2025-10-03 21:28:49
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Unfortunately, Any mitigations possible have already been done in the current bookworm ISO. They are mostly hardware specific. The only suggested improvement would be to install gedit as its used by default in the ini file EDITOR value and we install Geany. With the help of another member, I reworked the 2.9 Getting Linuxcnc docs to include many of the suggested mitigations but that was removed from the docs with the release of 2.9.3. Rod On 2025-10-04 06:05, andy pugh <bod...@gm...> wrote: > On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 20:57, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: > > > > First consider if its necessary to release a new ISO. > > I have seen complaints that the ISO installs 2.9.4.... > > > There isn't any way in a custom ISO to mitigate all of the latency issues that have arisen since the release of Debian 11 (Which we did not experience until 2.9 was released on Debian 12). > > Is there any way to mitigate _some_ of them? (and do you have any > references to these problems?) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-03 20:04:43
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2025 at 20:57, rodw <ro...@ve...> wrote: > > First consider if its necessary to release a new ISO. I have seen complaints that the ISO installs 2.9.4.... > There isn't any way in a custom ISO to mitigate all of the latency issues that have arisen since the release of Debian 11 (Which we did not experience until 2.9 was released on Debian 12). Is there any way to mitigate _some_ of them? (and do you have any references to these problems?) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: rodw <ro...@ve...> - 2025-10-03 19:55:05
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First consider if its necessary to release a new ISO. There is a precedent where no ISO was released on Bullseye as no new LinuxCNC versions were released during the Bullseye reign. Aside from that. I think it should be on Trixie if the Debian build environment supports it (which I think it does). The Bookworm to Trixie upgrade process is pretty seamless. LinuxCNC is in the Trixie repos so there is no point living in the past. There isn't any way in a custom ISO to mitigate all of the latency issues that have arisen since the release of Debian 11 (Which we did not experience until 2.9 was released on Debian 12). Note that the builder takes the OS version from the Debian version of the machine it is run on so Trixie needs to be built on Trixie. Rod On 2025-10-04 05:29, andy pugh <bod...@gm...> wrote: > If I were to create a 2.9.6 installer ISO, should it be based on > Bookworm as the current one is, or on Trixie? > (This assumes that some solution to the repo link keylength can be found) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-03 19:29:06
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If I were to create a 2.9.6 installer ISO, should it be based on Bookworm as the current one is, or on Trixie? (This assumes that some solution to the repo link keylength can be found) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: <ste...@gm...> - 2025-10-01 21:30:54
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Aargh! Hansu spotted it. CEST is what I had meant - Sunday at 20:00 Central European Summer Time, which according to https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/ is 14:00 of Eastern Daylight Saving Time. Sorry for the noise and many thanks to Hansu. Steffen > Am 01.10.25 um 18:56 schrieb Steffen Möller via Emc-developers: > > Dear all, > > > > Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our release manager in particular. > > > > Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance athttps://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . > > > > Hope to see you soon! > > > > Best, > > Steffen > > > >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 > >> Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers"<emc...@li...> > >> An:emc...@li... > >> CC: "Steffen Möller"<ste...@gm...> > >> Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote on when this should happen > >> > >> Dear all, > >> > >> I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a perfect time and I happily found > >> > >> https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk > >> > >> to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. > >> > >> We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. Onhttps://yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team building. > >> > >> Looking forward to it, > >> Steffen > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emc-developers mailing list > >> Emc...@li... > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > |
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From: Hans U. <han...@gm...> - 2025-10-01 19:19:29
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Hallo Steffen, deine Zeitangabe ist irgendwie widersprüchlich: "The Eastern Time Zone is also known as Eastern Standard Time (EST) falls mostly along the east coast of North America. Its time offset is −5 hours (UTC/GMT -5)" Ich würde da nochmal ne klarstellende Mail nachschieben ;-) Viele Grüße, Hans Am 01.10.25 um 18:56 schrieb Steffen Möller via Emc-developers: > Dear all, > > Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our release manager in particular. > > Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance athttps://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . > > Hope to see you soon! > > Best, > Steffen > >> Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 >> Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers"<emc...@li...> >> An:emc...@li... >> CC: "Steffen Möller"<ste...@gm...> >> Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote on when this should happen >> >> Dear all, >> >> I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a perfect time and I happily found >> >> https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk >> >> to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. >> >> We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. Onhttps://yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team building. >> >> Looking forward to it, >> Steffen >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-developers mailing list >> Emc...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >> > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: Steffen M. <ste...@gm...> - 2025-10-01 16:57:21
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Dear all, Time is floating. I have just checked what Frame-a-Date is telling. You have voted for 20:00 on the upcoming weekend, of which I now pick Sunday evening. I hope this still is all fine with everyone, i.e. with our release manager in particular. Our venue is Debian's Jitsi instance at https://jitsi.debian.social/LetUsImproveTheWorldWithLinuxCNC . Hope to see you soon! Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Montag, 15. September 2025 um 17:36 > Von: "Steffen Möller via Emc-developers" <emc...@li...> > An: emc...@li... > CC: "Steffen Möller" <ste...@gm...> > Betreff: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC Video Conference - call for vote on when this should happen > > Dear all, > > I had volunteered to organize the first video conference of ours after this two year (?) hiatus. I guess this starts with agreeing on a perfect time and I happily found > > https://framadate.org/YhoEIeGHjVWbphNk > > to help determining it. Please kindly send your vote. I thought that one of the first two weeks of October would be reasonable. > > We likely have quite some list of topics to talk about. On https://yopad.eu/p/LinuxCNCVideoConf everyone has the opportunity to drop ideas and preferably also offers to present their own work/issues. I would be particularly happy about FreeCAD (are you listening?) to have some minutes and also use that meeting (or a dedicated follow-up to it) for some team building. > > Looking forward to it, > Steffen > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-10-01 12:04:08
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The package should not be on the list of recommends for the packages in the official Debian repository, as the reference packages have never been uploaded to Debian. The package does exist on the separate linucnc.org repository (though not currently for Trixie). This package dates back to when LinuxCNC used to build Mesa Hostmot2 firmware packages, though this has not been the case for some time now. (The package contents are still valid, but support an increasingly outdated set of cards. The newer cards do not need to load a config from /lib/firmware and so do not require the packages.) On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 08:00, Carles Pina i Estany <ca...@pi...> wrote: > > > Subject: linuxcnc-uspace: recommends hostmot2-firmware-all which is not in unstable > Package: linuxcnc-uspace > Version: 1:2.9.4-2 > Severity: minor > User: su...@bu... > Usertags: package-relations > > Dear maintainer, > > I see that the package linuxcnc-uspace (version 1:2.9.4-2) recommends > hostmot2-firmware-all which is not in unstable. > > This can be seen in https://packages.debian.org/unstable/linuxcnc-uspace > . Search for "Package not available". > > Should it be dropped or changed? > > Thank you, > > -- > Carles Pina i Estany > https://carles.pina.cat | ca...@pi... | cp...@de... > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: rodw <ro...@ve...> - 2025-09-29 20:03:50
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It appears from buildbot 2, we already have 2 keys. One for Bookworm and one for Buster and Older ref: http://buildbot2.highlab.com/ Buildbot 2 probably needs to be updated to reflect the new 4096 bit key for Trixie. Also the key location suggested by buildbot2 may not be compliant as I don't think storing under the /etc/apt folder is best practice today. I don't think changing keys is a major issue. Our ISO installer includes the key for the ethercat master which only has a 2 year life. Refreshing the key in our installer was a trivial issue once they provided me with the details. Note our installer installs keys and apt list files from this folder in our repo https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc-live-build/tree/bookworm/config/archives Rod On 2025-09-30 02:30, Steffen Möller via Emc-developers <emc...@li...> wrote: > The bitlength should be 4096 (https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning). > I do not have any immediate idea. The Debian developer keys should be > distributed already with our users, so I guess they could verify > the package if I or Petter signs it. Also, I read about a repository > signed by multiple keys, but have not found any further respective > instructions - guess something like > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37725969/several-pgp-signatures-for-one-file > which if that works possibly maintains compatibility for ealier releases > of Debian. > > There may not be a way around creating a new LinuxCNC repository key. > I suggest to sign that key with the old key and have it on various > keyservers and/or our website. With Petter and me signing that key, > I guess that key will then be trusted. > > Best, > Steffen > > > > > Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2025 um 13:27 > > Von: "andy pugh" <bod...@gm...> > > An: "EMC developers" <emc...@li...> > > Betreff: [Emc-developers] Archive Signing Key > > > > It appears that Trixie rejects the current archive signing key > > (elg2048) as not secure enough. > > > > I could, in theory, generate a new key and re-sign the archive, > > > > But then all our existing user base would have an installed key that > > does not work. > > > > Does anyone who knows more about archive signing keys than me have any > > thoughts on how to proceed? > > > > (To know more than me you only need to know more than I have put in > > the email above, I have just been blindly signing the repo with the > > key that Seb gave me) > > > > -- > > atp > > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > > lunatics." > > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-developers mailing list > > Emc...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers |
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From: Steffen M. <ste...@gm...> - 2025-09-29 16:30:00
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The bitlength should be 4096 (https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning). I do not have any immediate idea. The Debian developer keys should be distributed already with our users, so I guess they could verify the package if I or Petter signs it. Also, I read about a repository signed by multiple keys, but have not found any further respective instructions - guess something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37725969/several-pgp-signatures-for-one-file which if that works possibly maintains compatibility for ealier releases of Debian. There may not be a way around creating a new LinuxCNC repository key. I suggest to sign that key with the old key and have it on various keyservers and/or our website. With Petter and me signing that key, I guess that key will then be trusted. Best, Steffen > Gesendet: Montag, 29. September 2025 um 13:27 > Von: "andy pugh" <bod...@gm...> > An: "EMC developers" <emc...@li...> > Betreff: [Emc-developers] Archive Signing Key > > It appears that Trixie rejects the current archive signing key > (elg2048) as not secure enough. > > I could, in theory, generate a new key and re-sign the archive, > > But then all our existing user base would have an installed key that > does not work. > > Does anyone who knows more about archive signing keys than me have any > thoughts on how to proceed? > > (To know more than me you only need to know more than I have put in > the email above, I have just been blindly signing the repo with the > key that Seb gave me) > > -- > atp > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and > lunatics." > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 > > > _______________________________________________ > Emc-developers mailing list > Emc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers > |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-09-29 11:52:36
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It appears that Trixie rejects the current archive signing key (elg2048) as not secure enough. I could, in theory, generate a new key and re-sign the archive, But then all our existing user base would have an installed key that does not work. Does anyone who knows more about archive signing keys than me have any thoughts on how to proceed? (To know more than me you only need to know more than I have put in the email above, I have just been blindly signing the repo with the key that Seb gave me) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-09-26 00:23:53
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LinuxCNC 2.9.6 released Sep 25, 2025 LinuxCNC 2.9.6 has been released. This is a bug-fix release. Shortly after the release of 2.9.5 it was noticed that a fix for a graphics bug in Gmoccapy had resulted in the Axis touch-off dialog box no-longer working for non-zero entries. This update is for all users, but especially users of the Axis GUI. Packages for 2.9-uspace for amd64 (PC) for Debian Buster, Bullseye, Bookworm and Trixie and for arm64 (Raspberry Pi 4/5) for Buster and Bookworm have been added to the linuxcnc repository. If you installed from one of our live images or Pi SD-card images then the update should be available immediately. If you installed into a normally-installed Debian from the Debian repositories then hopefully the new version can be queued up for the next point release. If you can’t wait then it is possible to add the LinuxCNC repositories to the apt sources. One way to do this and install the security keys is via the shell script here: https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html#_installing_on_debian_bookworm_with_preempt_rt_kernel At the moment the live-image installer and SD card images will install 2.9.4 but update should be trivial (and possibly automatic) RTAI is still supported, but in the short term building from source is likely to be the most expedient way to get 2.9.6 on that platform. Changelog qtvcp -Qt5_graphics: issue 2753; preview wrongly uses INI startup code Merge pull request #3567 from Sigma1912/2_9-Correct_bad_fix_for_2753 Gremlin: Don’t use RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE when updating the preview Docs: Address G52 Circular Link #3565 Acknowledgements As always, we couldn’t do this without the contributions from the community, so many thanks to: CMorley Sigma1912 -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: Carles P. i E. <ca...@pi...> - 2025-09-24 05:42:41
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Subject: linuxcnc-uspace: recommends hostmot2-firmware-all which is not in unstable Package: linuxcnc-uspace Version: 1:2.9.4-2 Severity: minor User: su...@bu... Usertags: package-relations Dear maintainer, I see that the package linuxcnc-uspace (version 1:2.9.4-2) recommends hostmot2-firmware-all which is not in unstable. This can be seen in https://packages.debian.org/unstable/linuxcnc-uspace . Search for "Package not available". Should it be dropped or changed? Thank you, -- Carles Pina i Estany https://carles.pina.cat | ca...@pi... | cp...@de... |
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From: Steffen M. <ste...@gm...> - 2025-09-23 14:41:50
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Hello, > Betreff: [Emc-developers] linuxcnc is marked for autoremoval from testing > > linuxcnc 1:2.9.4-2 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2025-10-04 > > It (build-)depends on packages with these RC bugs: > 1097640: portmidi: ftbfs with GCC-15 > https://bugs.debian.org/1097640 > 1097756: qtwebengine-opensource-src: ftbfs with GCC-15 > https://bugs.debian.org/1097756 > 1097972: tclx8.4: ftbfs with GCC-15 > https://bugs.debian.org/1097972 This just informs us about LinuxCNC depending on packages with bugs that are considered serious but yet not addressed by anyone. Portmidi seems to be taken care of (https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/portmidi), I am also not worried about qtwebengine-opensource-src. The tclx package is from 2020 - a new version 8.6 is out since 2023. I hope for someone stepping in since my last personal interaction with tcl is from 1997 or so. My hunch is that any investment into that package will also lead to an upgrade to the later version. Steffen |
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From: Bertho S. <lc...@va...> - 2025-09-22 10:28:16
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On 9/22/25 12:19 PM, andy pugh wrote: >> Did you do a 's/[gG]52//' in a region? Looks like it > Well, not deliberately... Muscle memory can be hard to keep under control; all that finger independence and so ;-) -- Greetings Bertho (disclaimers are disclaimed) |
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From: andy p. <bod...@gm...> - 2025-09-22 10:20:00
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On Mon, 22 Sept 2025 at 10:25, Bertho Stultiens <lc...@va...> wrote: > Did you do a 's/[gG]52//' in a region? Looks like it Well, not deliberately... -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 |
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From: Bertho S. <lc...@va...> - 2025-09-22 09:23:17
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On 9/22/25 11:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: > Ah! But, wait, what's this? > https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/compare/v2.9.5...2.9 > Some rather odd changes to gcode.html (no hyphen) there. > I am not sure how that happened, it looks like a bad search-replace. Did you do a 's/[gG]52//' in a region? Looks like it in the first two chunks of changes. -- Greetings Bertho (disclaimers are disclaimed) |
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