Re: [Embedlets-dev] Re: [Mgmt] License?

[Nicola K. B. <nic...@ap...>]

Ted Kosan wrote, On 14/02/2003 0.19:
> Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE]
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> 
> Andrzej,
> 
> 
>>But before I can really make any progress, we need to decide 
>>what kind of license we want to release this stuff under:
>>
>>Apache? 
>>GPL?
>>LGPL?
>>Some other?
> 
> 
> Sourceforge requires that a new project select (at least tentatively) an open
> source license as part of the registration process.
> 
> http://opensource.org/licenses/
> 
> 
> I spent a number of hours studying these licenses and the one I liked the most
> was the Apache license:
> 
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/apachepl.php
> 
> 
> However, since only Apache projects can use this license

Not really. Simply substitute "Apache" with the name of the copyright 
holder and the name of the project, and it's usable.

example: http://www.krysalis.org/license.html

>  I then looked for the
> license that was as close to it as possible and the one I selected was the BSD
> license:
> 
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
> 
> We are not locked into the BSD license, though,  and we can change it at any
> time.  I figured that we would get around to addressing this issue eventually.
> 
>>It would also be nice to become an "official" Apache project 
>>some time down the road....lots of benefits to going that 
>>route, and if we use the Apache license terms in the beginning 
>>this would be easier.
> 
> [...]
> 
>>One issue is how to attribute the copyright since we don't 
>>have a legal entity like the Apache Foundation or embedlets.org 
>>that can legally own the copyright.
> 
> 
> After Nicola had posted some links to information on the Apache Incubator site
> I spent some time studying the rest of the Incubator materials along with the
> Apache foundation's overall philosophies and goals.
> 
> Now that you have mentioned the possibility of the Embedlets project putting
> together a proposal to become part of the Apache foundation I have started to
> think about this.
> 
> The Apache foundation appears to be primarily focused on server side open
> source software development.  However, if the prediction of billions of
> embedded systems being attached to the internet in the near future comes true
> (which seems likely) then enterprise systems are going to have a need for
> technologies that allow them to monitor, control and manage these devices.
> 
> Embedlets, and especially the Outpost reference implementation, are being
> specifically designed to provide this type of technology.   When viewed from
> this perspective it appears that the Embedlets/Outpost project has the
> potential of bringing capabilities to the Apache Foundation that it does not
> currently have and that would be very complementary to their existing project
> base.
> 
> As for the benefits of what Apache would provide for the Embedlets/Outpost
> project, more direct access to cutting edge back end developers,  increased
> visibility and the support of a best-practice open source community are just a
> few of these.
> 
> The more I think about this idea the more I like it.  A main question I have,
> though, is if Apache would be interested in bringing an embedded systems
> oriented project into their community?

My personal opinion? Yes. It just makes sense.
But you must start first here and start growing. When there will be a 
community working on code and some initial implementations, it can be 
discussed.

There is some level of politics at Apache. So some think that GUI 
projects can come into Apache, some think no, they are not server-side.

Embedlets are more server-side, so it would be easier, but I would 
approach Apache with some working stuff.

If you all want, I can ask informally some people there what they would 
think about it. Let's see what others think.

-- 
Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nic...@ap...
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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