embedlets-developer

[Embedlets-dev] Re: Licenses...

[Andrzej J. T. <an...@ch...>]

Nicola clarifies:

> Not really. Simply substitute "Apache" with the name of the copyright
> holder and the name of the project, and it's usable.
> 
> example: http://www.krysalis.org/license.html

I think this makes a lot of sense......let's use the Apache license boilerplate, 
and just change the terms to refer to our project/copyright holders.  It would 
seen to meet our needs the best, and most seem to like that license.

> But you must start first here and start growing. When there will be a
> community working on code and some initial implementations, it can be
> discussed.

I agree.....it think it's premature to approach Apache at the moment.  Let's wait 
a month or two (I doubt it will be longer than that) and have something more 
substantial to show (eg. Spec v 1.0, interface definitions, and parts of a 
container ref impl).  Then we can revisit the idea of approaching Apache.

> There is some level of politics at Apache.

I think we also need to get just a touch further down the road before we open 
the floodgates and attract the level of attention that Apache partnership would 
bring.  A small tight group is more likely to produce a good Version 1.0 
spec/impl faster than a larger group.  Think of what the embedlets discussions 
were like if we had 100 instead of a half dozen active participants.  We need to 
move fast right now to get the germ sprouted and rolling in the right direction, 
and a small tight team has a chance of pulling that off. Once the directions and 
spec are solid, then it's less likely that larger participation will slow things down 
or change the direction.  

> If you all want, I can ask informally some people there what they would
> think about it. Let's see what others think.

I think it would be better if we had more than just an "idea" before we approach 
Apache, even informally.


Andrzej Jan Taramina
Chaeron Corporation: Enterprise System Solutions
http://www.chaeron.com

Re: [Embedlets-dev] Re: Licenses...

[Brill P. <bri...@ro...>]

Apache is fine with me ;)

> I think we also need to get just a touch further down the road before we
open
> the floodgates and attract the level of attention that Apache partnership
would
> bring.  A small tight group is more likely to produce a good Version 1.0
[...]
> I think it would be better if we had more than just an "idea" before we
approach
> Apache, even informally.

I agree, I'd like to have something ready and working to be able to
demonstrate the ideas are sound, and work out any killer architecture
"mistakes" we may have made (nothing beats practical application).

I've been working on the JAPL for a bit, when I have time... once that's
done, I'll reemployment Cork onto TINI so there is a basis to work from, and
something for the embedlet impl to do!

- Brill Pappin