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Re: [Embedlets-dev] Embedded or industrial Java?

[Gregg G. W. <gr...@sk...>]

>> Should Embedlets be categorized under Industrial Java or Embedded
>> Java?  Beyond
>> this, is Industrial Java a sub-category of Embedded Java or is
>> Embedded Java a
>> sub-category of Industrial Java?

I believe you can select both categories can you not?

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RE: [Embedlets-dev] Embedded or industrial Java?

[Christopher S. <cs...@oo...>]

Broader terms would be: 'Embedded Process Components' or 'Embedded Control
Components'. These cover a wide horizontal range of applications in the
control market without artificial boundaries such as 'Industrial'. A
successful component architecture will be applied in the home, toys,
appliances etc.


>
> Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE]
> _______________________________________________
>
> Chris said:
>
> > I vote Embedded - this covers Industrial, Aerospace, Facilities
> Management,
> > Automotive, etc.
>
> and Gregg said:
>
> > I believe you can select both categories can you not?
>
> The reason I am bringing this up is that some of Sun's thinking
> leans towards
> calling the Java that is in cell phones "Embedded Java" and the
> Java that is
> used in industrial applications "Industrial Java".  See this JSR for more
> details:
>
> http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=7
>
> I personally hold the view of Embedded Java that Chris stated above but it
> looks like we are going to have to come up with a precise
> definition of exactly
> what Embedded Java is and what it is not because Sun does not
> seemed to have
> defined it yet.
>
> At JavaOne I found myself in the position of needing to explain
> what category
> Embedlets fits into and before the Embedlets Cat is 'out of the
> bag' I think we
> need to address this.
>
> Ted
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RE: [Embedlets-dev] Embedded or industrial Java?

[James C. <ca...@vi...>]

Ted Says:

>The reason I am bringing this up is that some of Sun's thinking leans
>towards calling the Java that is in cell phones "Embedded Java" and 
>the Java that is used in industrial applications "Industrial Java". 

I saw this a while ago and chose to use the term 'deeply embedded' for
muvium to differentiate between embedded and the controller type
imbedded that muvium targets. I agree is not good to have to spend the
first 5 minutes of a conversation creating the product space
distincition

James Caska
www.muvium.com
uVM - 'Java Bred for Embedded'



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Topic tags:[ARCH][JAPL][WIRING][DOCS][MGMT][STRATEGY][NEWBIE]
_______________________________________________

Chris said:

> I vote Embedded - this covers Industrial, Aerospace, Facilities
> Management, Automotive, etc.

and Gregg said:

> I believe you can select both categories can you not?

The reason I am bringing this up is that some of Sun's thinking leans
towards calling the Java that is in cell phones "Embedded Java" and the
Java that is used in industrial applications "Industrial Java".  See
this JSR for more
details: 

http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=7

I personally hold the view of Embedded Java that Chris stated above but
it looks like we are going to have to come up with a precise definition
of exactly what Embedded Java is and what it is not because Sun does not
seemed to have defined it yet.

At JavaOne I found myself in the position of needing to explain what
category Embedlets fits into and before the Embedlets Cat is 'out of the
bag' I think we need to address this.

Ted

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