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Re: [MAS-discuss] Re: [MAS: trading discussions] Bull Market?

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

> Jim Cochrane wrote:
> <snip/>
> > You guessed it - The maintaining of these lists takes place
> > outside of mas proper.
> 
> Excellent, that means that i am beginning to understand the
> power of mas.
> 
> <snip/>
> > I have considered moving this functionality into mas proper,
> > but it would be a good chunk of work. Do you think you
> > (or others listening in) would be interested in such a feature?
> 
> Not necessarily. I think that the current external functionality
> to interrogate mas as a server is fine. Now that i understand how
> to do it, i can progress. Thanks.

Yes, I suppose that for a technically inclined user like yourself, such
a feature may not be necessary, since you can figure things out for
yourself and write your own scripts to drive mas to do what you want.
For a less technical user, however, I suspect that having such power
available in a relatively-easy-to-use UI would be very useful.


Jim

Re: [MAS-discuss] A Comment and a Question

[Chris T. <num...@ya...>]

Hi Jim,

I've consolidated the first two parts of the last
response.

--- Jim Cochrane <jt...@di...> wrote:
> Hi Chris.
>  
> OK, that looks like the classic clue that you
> somehow added a carriage
> return or line feed character (I forget which is
> which - the one that
> causes the output to start at the beginning of the
> line, but not down
> one line) as part of the name.  I believe I've used
> a DOS window before
> to create indicators and have not run into this
> problem (though I may
> be wrong - I may have just used cygwin bash), so I'm
> not sure how it
> would occur.  (Have any other windows users
> encountered this problem?
> Have you found a fix?)  It sounds like you're a
> fairly technical user,
> so you might want to experiment a little and see if
> you can figure out how
> to assign a name without a newline in it, since
> that's likely the sole
> cause of the problem.  If you can't get it to work
> in a DOS window, if
> you have the energy, you might try downloading the
> cygwin bash (UNIX shell
> ported to windows) and try it with that (just search
> google for cygwin).
> 
> Sorry for the funky UI.
> 

Actually, I don't really mind the UI. It takes a while
to get a hang of it, but once you do, it's extremely
powerful.

I grabbed an old Windows VM with cygwin(also used the
a version a bash that came with a old version of the
mks toolkit) and the result is the same when running
the mas server through it. I still get the mangled
indicator names that look like they contain a
CR(\x0d).

I will be mailing you a copy of the indicator file
that I used in this build. However, I think it is
correct and the issue happens when the indicator is
being added to the server. I'll take a better look at
what happens then. 

> > I also have a question about LINEAR SUM. I am
> having
> > problems with this function. This problem exists
> in
> > both 1.6.5 and 1.6.6g so it is likely something
> I'm
> > doing wrong.

In terms of Linear Sum, it looks like I'm using it
incorrectly. However, I've taken a very quick look at
the debug data and something confuses me. I'll post
more information when I get a chance.

Also, when the server dumps core, the server does not
crash and will let you try again.

Thanks for your help,
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Re: [MAS-discuss] Re: [MAS: trading discussions] Bull Market?

[David C. <cro...@in...>]

Jim Cochrane wrote:
<snip/>
> You guessed it - The maintaining of these lists takes place
> outside of mas proper.

Excellent, that means that i am beginning to understand the
power of mas.

<snip/>
> I have considered moving this functionality into mas proper,
> but it would be a good chunk of work. Do you think you
> (or others listening in) would be interested in such a feature?

Not necessarily. I think that the current external functionality
to interrogate mas as a server is fine. Now that i understand how
to do it, i can progress. Thanks.

--David

Re: [MAS-discuss] Re: [MAS: trading discussions] Bull Market?

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

Hi David.  Sorry for the late reply; I've been quite busy.

> On 2003-06-06, Jim Cochrane wrote to eiffel-mas-trading:
> Subject: Bull Market?
> >
> > I noticed today that my uptrend list now has 35 stocks in it.  (I use
> > weekly criteria in MAS to automatically update the list each day.)
> > Yesterday I believe it had around 25 or so and right around 20 the day
> > before.  My downtrend list had 1 stock in it yesterday; today it has 0.
> > Not sure whether this is indicative of things to come.
> 
> Jim, am i missing something in the docs? I cannot understand
> how to "automatically update a list". Is it that you have a
> certain registrant that is interested only in "trend" events and
> you parse the email to maintain a list. I noticed that you once
> said a similar thing about a list of overbought/oversold.

You guessed it - The maintaining of these lists takes place outside of
mas proper.  I have a cron job set up on my Linux system to first grab
the latest EOD data and insert it into the database; then mas is run with
this up-to-date data.  (The following is somewhat inaccurate, but close
to reality, for the purpose of brevity.)  A series of analyses is run
with the mas server, which is configurable and is currently configured as
follows: A long-term trend analysis is run with criteria to send "buy"
(uptrend) or "sell" (downtrend) signals based on weekly data to the
"mailer" program (which in this case is a script that parses the signals
and updates a downtrend, uptrend, and sidelined list accordingly).  Then a
short-term trend analysis is run on the tradables in the downtrend list,
looking for good short-sell signals; then a short-term analysis is run
on the uptrend list looking for buy signals.  These short-term signals
are sent by actual mail (e.g., the mailer is elm) to the user for him
to look over and decide if each signal is worth acting on.  The sidelined
list is ignored because (with the system I was using when I was actually
trading) I considered non-trending stocks as more difficult to trade and
thus not worth the risk.

I have considered moving this functionality into mas proper, but it
would be a good chunk of work.  Do you think you (or others listening in)
would be interested in such a feature?


Jim

Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

Hi Payman.

> Thank you for your rapid answer.
> But I have found why my symbols don't work : in fact, after having installed
> MAS, I couldn't even delete one line of the symbol file without crashing the
> server (I have already provided the Seg Fault message).
> The explication is that I installed MAS in the "Program Files" directory,
> and this seems to be a problem it : I finally installed MAS in its default
> directory "Applications" and everything was OK.

Thanks for the report.  It's still a bug (espcecially since it core dumps),
but I guess the cause is because of the space in the "Program Files"
directory name, rather than the symbol not being in yahoo's database.
I believe the bug happens because the DOS shell is used to start the
different mas components and the shell can't handle names with spaces.
(I think this problem is fixed in the current, unreleased, development
version.)

> 
> I don't know if this is documented in the FAQ.

I believe it's not, though it probably should be.


Jim

Re: [MAS-discuss] A Comment and a Question

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

Hi Chris.

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Just started using MAS a couple weeks ago and I think
> it's excellent. However, in that time there are a
> couple things I have noticed that I would like help
> on.
> 
> First, I've noticed that there is an issue with the
> addition of new indicators and the ability to graph
> them in 1.6.6g for Windows(Other versions of 1.6.6g
> are seemingly unaffected. I must admit that I did not
> test 1.6.5, so it might exist there as well). 
> 
> If I create a new indicator for 1.6.6g under Windows,
> I am unable to graph them. Using the CLI, I can see
> that the indicator is added successfully and outputs
> the correct data, but I am unable to graph it. I have
> double-checked that the format of the .ma_client.rc is
> correct. I can add an indicator that originally came
> with MAS 1.6.6g and graph it with no problems. 

It sounds like you've taken into account the issue in the FAQ about needing
to edit the .ma_clientrc file when you create a new indicator (just in
case, the Q/A is at:
http://eiffel-mas.sourceforge.net/support/FAQ.html#charting%20GUI
under: "I tried adding a new indicator to MAS.")  So the problem is
most likely caused by something else - I suspect it is the UNIX vs. DOS
text format (specifically end-ofline sequence) issue, or another formatting
issue such as using spaces to separate fields instead of a tab.
So first I'd suggest checking the format of the lines you've added against
the syntax described in the first line of the file (
# Format: 'keyword<tab>f1<tab>f2...'), making sure 1 tab is used to
separate each field; then check the actual characters used to end the lines
you added and make sure they're the same as the original version of the
file.  (If you're not sure how to do that, just attach the file in an email
to me and I'll check for you.)  Make any needed adjustments and hopefully
this will fix the problem.  If it doesn't, please post a followup (though a
followup saying it worked would also be helpful if that's the case).

(By the way, this whole procedure points out an obvious
interface/usability issue which I hope to solve in a future release.)

[more below]

> 
> It is possible that the server is chomping the
> Indicator Name and no longer corresponds to the name
> originally given. An easy way to test this is to
> create an indicator and give it any name. Now, create
> another indicator as a One_Variable_Function and
> attempt to use the indicator you originally created as
> it's input function. I've noticed that the indicator
> name for the indicator you originally created is
> correct in the list of Indicators to add, but when you
> select it, the indicator name gets chomped. This does
> not happen to indicators that came with MAS.
> 
> As an example of the above if it is too confusing:
> 
> I am attempting to add an indicator called Testing. It
> takes input from an indicator I created called
> Bollinger Squeeze Percentage.
> (Note: Also notice that the indicator Testing seems to
> have a line feed at the end of the indicator name)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Choose a name for root function that does not match
> any of the
> above names: Testing
> 's (ONE_VARIABLE_FUNCTION) input function
> 1) Simple Moving Average
> .
> .
> .
> 36) Parabolic SAR
> 37) Bollinger Band Difference
> 38) Bollinger Squeeze Percentage
> 39) No Input Function
> 38
> ? (y/n) ollinger Squeeze Percentage
> ---------------------------------------------------

OK, that looks like the classic clue that you somehow added a carriage
return or line feed character (I forget which is which - the one that
causes the output to start at the beginning of the line, but not down
one line) as part of the name.  I believe I've used a DOS window before
to create indicators and have not run into this problem (though I may
be wrong - I may have just used cygwin bash), so I'm not sure how it
would occur.  (Have any other windows users encountered this problem?
Have you found a fix?)  It sounds like you're a fairly technical user,
so you might want to experiment a little and see if you can figure out how
to assign a name without a newline in it, since that's likely the sole
cause of the problem.  If you can't get it to work in a DOS window, if
you have the energy, you might try downloading the cygwin bash (UNIX shell
ported to windows) and try it with that (just search google for cygwin).

Sorry for the funky UI.

> 
> 
> 
> Same example, except using Parabolic SAR:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 34) Upper Bollinger Band
> 35) Lower Bollinger Band
> 36) Parabolic SAR
> 37) Bollinger Band Difference
> 38) Bollinger Squeeze Percentage
> 39) No Input Function
> 36
> Select Parabolic SAR? (y/n)
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Again, this seems to be Windows only.
> 
> I also have a question about LINEAR SUM. I am having
> problems with this function. This problem exists in
> both 1.6.5 and 1.6.6g so it is likely something I'm
> doing wrong.
> 
> I'm guessing that the function LINEAR SUM is a sum of
> a value over the last n-periods. So, let's assume that
> I want to find the total sum of volume over the last
> 10 periods. I have been doing the following:
> 
> N-RECORD ONE VARIABLE FUNCTION
> (No Input Function)
> |
> |
> LINEAR SUM(Integer Value for n-value = 10)
> (No Input Function)
> |
> |
> VOLUME
> 
> With a value of 10 for the n-value N-RECORD's ONE
> VARIABLE FUNCTION
> 
> However, when I attempt to view the results for this 
> indicator of a stock, MAS core dumps.

Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now to answer all your questions
on this issue, but I can say that the core dump is very likely caused by
one of your functions or operators (likely LINEAR_SUM) being configured to
try to access data beyond the available boundaries (i.e., before the first
record or after the last record).  I know it's difficult to figure out
what's going on here, but you might try experimenting with different offsets
or whatever and see if you can get rid of the core dump.

Also, I've added a -debug option to mas that I believe is in the 1.6.6g
version (not 1.6.5) that could be very helpful to you for figuring out
what's going on.  The output will be quite verbose, I'm afriad, but if you
can figure out what it is saying, you can probably get some clues as to
what is going wrong - unless it core dumps before it gets a chance to
output anything, which would be unfortunate.

Please keep us informed of what you find.  I may have some time later to
help more on this, but for any other mas users reading this who think they
may be able to help - feel free to contribute.

A developer-oriented question: Did the core dump cause the server to
terminate?  (If so, that's something that needs to be fixed - mas should
recover and let you try again.)


Jim

> 
> I would appreciate any help anyone has on this. Is it
> something I'm doing incorrectly? Am I incorrect in
> assuming that LINEAR_SUM creates a sum of a value over
> the last n-periods? Is there another way to do what I
> want to do that I'm missing?
> 
> The only other way I can think of at the moment to do
> the the above is creating an indicator with ten
> addition operations and with corresponding
> SETTABLE_OFFSET_COMMANDS. However, I'd rather not do
> something like this as it is very inefficent. :)
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> CT
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Re: [MAS-discuss] MAS and PROXY

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

> Hi everybody,
> 
> Perhaps a newbie question : is it possible to use MAS with -w option behind a
 proxy?

Do you mean a web server proxy?  Since with -w mas does http queries, I
would guess that if accessing a site via the proxy with your browser works,
then it should work with mas; but I don't have personal experience with
this to say for sure.  Has anyone else tried this?

I wouldn't call it a newbie question particularly, but it's a good one for
the FAQ, once we have a definitive answer.


Jim

[MAS-discuss] MAS and PROXY

[Peyman G. <pey...@wa...>]

Hi everybody,

Perhaps a newbie question : is it possible to use MAS with -w option behind a proxy?

Thanks!
Peyman

Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Peyman G. W. <pey...@wa...>]

Thank you for your rapid answer.
But I have found why my symbols don't work : in fact, after having installed
MAS, I couldn't even delete one line of the symbol file without crashing the
server (I have already provided the Seg Fault message).
The explication is that I installed MAS in the "Program Files" directory,
and this seems to be a problem it : I finally installed MAS in its default
directory "Applications" and everything was OK.

I don't know if this is documented in the FAQ.
In any case, thank you for all!

Peyman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Cochrane" <jt...@di...>
To: <ka...@ne...>
Cc: "Pedro Pla" <ped...@ho...>; "Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo"
<pey...@wa...>; <eif...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market


> >I couldn't find that symbol axa.pa either.
>
> The server's behavior in this case is a bug, of course - If the server
> requests a tradable that yahoo does not know about, the server should be
> prepared to accept whatever error status message yahoo returns and report
> it and continue accepting requests from clients, rather than dumping core
> and exiting.  I've entered this in the sf bug database at:
>
>
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=844260&group_id=68
38&atid=106838
>
> Thanks for the report and comments pointing out the problem.
>
> Assuming that the problem is actually triggered by a request for a
> symbol that yahoo doesn't know about (which seems very likely from the
> description), I suppose the workaround is to not use symbols yahoo does
> not recognize and/or to find an alternative source of data (e.g., via
> email, ftp, network connection, etc.).  It would be nice if we could
> find an alternative web site that, for example, has a complete database
> of European stocks, but so far it appears that no such site exists
> (although I have not done a thorough investigation into this possibiliy,
> so I could be wrong).
>
>
> JTC
>
> > >From: Pedro Pla <ped...@ho...>
> > >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:20:32 +0800
> > >To: Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo <pey...@wa...>
> > >CC: eif...@li...
> > >Subject: Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I don't know if this will help, but if you're running mas with the -w
> > >option it is getting quotes from yahoo, I did a quick check and didn't
> > >see any axa.pa on finance.yahoo.com quote search, there were some
others
> > >like axafw.pa, and a lot  more, so you probably want to look it up on
> > >yahoo.com to make sure the symbol you are searching for is displayed
> > >that way there.
> > >
> > >Pedro
> > >
> > >Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi everybody,
> > >>
> > >>I can't modify the Symbol file to add European Market Items. I use MAS
1.6.
> 5
> > >>on Windows.
> > >>Can anyone mail me a symbol file with for instance AXA.PA or FTE.PA.
> > >>
> > >>When I launch the client, the server gives me that error (there is no
> > >>network activity) :
> > >>
> > >>C:\Program Files\mas1.6.5\lib>mas -o -b -f , -w 18273
> > >>
> > >>Caught signal in responding to client request:
> > >>Segmentation violation (11)
> > >>Details: Exception  occurred with tag:
> > >>"Segmentation violation"
> > >>Type of Exception : Operating system signal.
> > >>
> > >>[Exception trace:
> >
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
> > >>---
> > >>Class / Object      Routine                Nature of exception
> > >>Effect
> >
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
> > >>---
> > >>MA_SERVER           root's creation        Segmentation violation:
> > >><00FC002C>                                 Operating system signal.
> > >>Exit
> >
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
> > >>---
> > >>MA_SERVER           root's creation
> > >><00FC002C>                                 Routine failure.
> > >>Exit
> >
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> -
> > >>---
> > >>]
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[MAS-discuss] A Comment and a Question

[Chris T. <num...@ya...>]

Hi everyone,

Just started using MAS a couple weeks ago and I think
it's excellent. However, in that time there are a
couple things I have noticed that I would like help
on.

First, I've noticed that there is an issue with the
addition of new indicators and the ability to graph
them in 1.6.6g for Windows(Other versions of 1.6.6g
are seemingly unaffected. I must admit that I did not
test 1.6.5, so it might exist there as well). 

If I create a new indicator for 1.6.6g under Windows,
I am unable to graph them. Using the CLI, I can see
that the indicator is added successfully and outputs
the correct data, but I am unable to graph it. I have
double-checked that the format of the .ma_client.rc is
correct. I can add an indicator that originally came
with MAS 1.6.6g and graph it with no problems. 

It is possible that the server is chomping the
Indicator Name and no longer corresponds to the name
originally given. An easy way to test this is to
create an indicator and give it any name. Now, create
another indicator as a One_Variable_Function and
attempt to use the indicator you originally created as
it's input function. I've noticed that the indicator
name for the indicator you originally created is
correct in the list of Indicators to add, but when you
select it, the indicator name gets chomped. This does
not happen to indicators that came with MAS.

As an example of the above if it is too confusing:

I am attempting to add an indicator called Testing. It
takes input from an indicator I created called
Bollinger Squeeze Percentage.
(Note: Also notice that the indicator Testing seems to
have a line feed at the end of the indicator name)

-------------------------------------------------
Choose a name for root function that does not match
any of the
above names: Testing
's (ONE_VARIABLE_FUNCTION) input function
1) Simple Moving Average
.
.
.
36) Parabolic SAR
37) Bollinger Band Difference
38) Bollinger Squeeze Percentage
39) No Input Function
38
? (y/n) ollinger Squeeze Percentage
---------------------------------------------------



Same example, except using Parabolic SAR:
---------------------------------------------------
34) Upper Bollinger Band
35) Lower Bollinger Band
36) Parabolic SAR
37) Bollinger Band Difference
38) Bollinger Squeeze Percentage
39) No Input Function
36
Select Parabolic SAR? (y/n)
---------------------------------------------------

Again, this seems to be Windows only.

I also have a question about LINEAR SUM. I am having
problems with this function. This problem exists in
both 1.6.5 and 1.6.6g so it is likely something I'm
doing wrong.

I'm guessing that the function LINEAR SUM is a sum of
a value over the last n-periods. So, let's assume that
I want to find the total sum of volume over the last
10 periods. I have been doing the following:

N-RECORD ONE VARIABLE FUNCTION
(No Input Function)
|
|
LINEAR SUM(Integer Value for n-value = 10)
(No Input Function)
|
|
VOLUME

With a value of 10 for the n-value N-RECORD's ONE
VARIABLE FUNCTION

However, when I attempt to view the results for this 
indicator of a stock, MAS core dumps.

I would appreciate any help anyone has on this. Is it
something I'm doing incorrectly? Am I incorrect in
assuming that LINEAR_SUM creates a sum of a value over
the last n-periods? Is there another way to do what I
want to do that I'm missing?

The only other way I can think of at the moment to do
the the above is creating an indicator with ten
addition operations and with corresponding
SETTABLE_OFFSET_COMMANDS. However, I'd rather not do
something like this as it is very inefficent. :)

Thanks for your help,
CT

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Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

>I couldn't find that symbol axa.pa either.

The server's behavior in this case is a bug, of course - If the server
requests a tradable that yahoo does not know about, the server should be
prepared to accept whatever error status message yahoo returns and report
it and continue accepting requests from clients, rather than dumping core
and exiting.  I've entered this in the sf bug database at:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=844260&group_id=6838&atid=106838

Thanks for the report and comments pointing out the problem.

Assuming that the problem is actually triggered by a request for a
symbol that yahoo doesn't know about (which seems very likely from the
description), I suppose the workaround is to not use symbols yahoo does
not recognize and/or to find an alternative source of data (e.g., via
email, ftp, network connection, etc.).  It would be nice if we could
find an alternative web site that, for example, has a complete database
of European stocks, but so far it appears that no such site exists
(although I have not done a thorough investigation into this possibiliy,
so I could be wrong).


JTC

> >From: Pedro Pla <ped...@ho...>
> >Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:20:32 +0800
> >To: Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo <pey...@wa...>
> >CC: eif...@li...
> >Subject: Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I don't know if this will help, but if you're running mas with the -w 
> >option it is getting quotes from yahoo, I did a quick check and didn't 
> >see any axa.pa on finance.yahoo.com quote search, there were some others 
> >like axafw.pa, and a lot  more, so you probably want to look it up on 
> >yahoo.com to make sure the symbol you are searching for is displayed 
> >that way there.
> >
> >Pedro
> >
> >Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo wrote:
> >
> >>Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>I can't modify the Symbol file to add European Market Items. I use MAS 1.6.
5
> >>on Windows.
> >>Can anyone mail me a symbol file with for instance AXA.PA or FTE.PA.
> >>
> >>When I launch the client, the server gives me that error (there is no
> >>network activity) :
> >>
> >>C:\Program Files\mas1.6.5\lib>mas -o -b -f , -w 18273
> >>
> >>Caught signal in responding to client request:
> >>Segmentation violation (11)
> >>Details: Exception  occurred with tag:
> >>"Segmentation violation"
> >>Type of Exception : Operating system signal.
> >>
> >>[Exception trace:
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >>---
> >>Class / Object      Routine                Nature of exception
> >>Effect
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >>---
> >>MA_SERVER           root's creation        Segmentation violation:
> >><00FC002C>                                 Operating system signal.
> >>Exit
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >>---
> >>MA_SERVER           root's creation
> >><00FC002C>                                 Routine failure.
> >>Exit
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >>---
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Re: Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Karl B. <tr...@nv...>]

>I couldn't find that symbol axa.pa either.
>From: Pedro Pla <ped...@ho...>
>Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:20:32 +0800
>To: Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo <pey...@wa...>
>CC: eif...@li...
>Subject: Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market
>
>Hi,
>
>I don't know if this will help, but if you're running mas with the -w 
>option it is getting quotes from yahoo, I did a quick check and didn't 
>see any axa.pa on finance.yahoo.com quote search, there were some others 
>like axafw.pa, and a lot  more, so you probably want to look it up on 
>yahoo.com to make sure the symbol you are searching for is displayed 
>that way there.
>
>Pedro
>
>Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo wrote:
>
>>Hi everybody,
>>
>>I can't modify the Symbol file to add European Market Items. I use MAS 1.6.5
>>on Windows.
>>Can anyone mail me a symbol file with for instance AXA.PA or FTE.PA.
>>
>>When I launch the client, the server gives me that error (there is no
>>network activity) :
>>
>>C:\Program Files\mas1.6.5\lib>mas -o -b -f , -w 18273
>>
>>Caught signal in responding to client request:
>>Segmentation violation (11)
>>Details: Exception  occurred with tag:
>>"Segmentation violation"
>>Type of Exception : Operating system signal.
>>
>>[Exception trace:
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>>Class / Object      Routine                Nature of exception
>>Effect
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>>MA_SERVER           root's creation        Segmentation violation:
>><00FC002C>                                 Operating system signal.
>>Exit
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>>MA_SERVER           root's creation
>><00FC002C>                                 Routine failure.
>>Exit
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---
>>]
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Eiffel is good! :)
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Re: [MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Pedro P. <ped...@ho...>]

Hi,

I don't know if this will help, but if you're running mas with the -w 
option it is getting quotes from yahoo, I did a quick check and didn't 
see any axa.pa on finance.yahoo.com quote search, there were some others 
like axafw.pa, and a lot  more, so you probably want to look it up on 
yahoo.com to make sure the symbol you are searching for is displayed 
that way there.

Pedro

Peyman GOHARI Wanadoo wrote:

>Hi everybody,
>
>I can't modify the Symbol file to add European Market Items. I use MAS 1.6.5
>on Windows.
>Can anyone mail me a symbol file with for instance AXA.PA or FTE.PA.
>
>When I launch the client, the server gives me that error (there is no
>network activity) :
>
>C:\Program Files\mas1.6.5\lib>mas -o -b -f , -w 18273
>
>Caught signal in responding to client request:
>Segmentation violation (11)
>Details: Exception  occurred with tag:
>"Segmentation violation"
>Type of Exception : Operating system signal.
>
>[Exception trace:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>Class / Object      Routine                Nature of exception
>Effect
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>MA_SERVER           root's creation        Segmentation violation:
><00FC002C>                                 Operating system signal.
>Exit
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>MA_SERVER           root's creation
><00FC002C>                                 Routine failure.
>Exit
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---
>]
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>Eiffel is good! :)
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[MAS-discuss] Problem with Symbols on Europe Market

[Peyman G. W. <pey...@wa...>]

Hi everybody,

I can't modify the Symbol file to add European Market Items. I use MAS 1.6.5
on Windows.
Can anyone mail me a symbol file with for instance AXA.PA or FTE.PA.

When I launch the client, the server gives me that error (there is no
network activity) :

C:\Program Files\mas1.6.5\lib>mas -o -b -f , -w 18273

Caught signal in responding to client request:
Segmentation violation (11)
Details: Exception  occurred with tag:
"Segmentation violation"
Type of Exception : Operating system signal.

[Exception trace:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
Class / Object      Routine                Nature of exception
Effect
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
MA_SERVER           root's creation        Segmentation violation:
<00FC002C>                                 Operating system signal.
Exit
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
MA_SERVER           root's creation
<00FC002C>                                 Routine failure.
Exit
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
]

Thanks!
Eiffel is good! :)

[MAS-discuss] Re: [MAS: trading discussions] Bull Market?

[David C. <cro...@in...>]

On 2003-06-06, Jim Cochrane wrote to eiffel-mas-trading:
Subject: Bull Market?
>
> I noticed today that my uptrend list now has 35 stocks in it.  (I use
> weekly criteria in MAS to automatically update the list each day.)
> Yesterday I believe it had around 25 or so and right around 20 the day
> before.  My downtrend list had 1 stock in it yesterday; today it has 0.
> Not sure whether this is indicative of things to come.

Jim, am i missing something in the docs? I cannot understand
how to "automatically update a list". Is it that you have a
certain registrant that is interested only in "trend" events and
you parse the email to maintain a list. I noticed that you once
said a similar thing about a list of overbought/oversold.

--David

Re: [MAS-discuss] Yahoo charts down, alternate?

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

> Yep, I solved it by moving the PC outside the firewall,
> which was causing it to not make it through..
> 
> But that does raise a point still, and that is if the
> primary data source goes down for some reason, is there an
> alternate place to get the same data?

Of course, the best solution is to find a reliable data service and pay their
monthly fees, but for your question about free data service, if an
alternative exists, I think you'll have a better chance of finding out by
posting in a list or news group with a much larger audience - for example,
I think misc.invest.technical, misc.invest.stocks, and misc.invest.futures
would be a good bet.

Jim

RE: [MAS-discuss] Yahoo charts down, alternate?

[C. J. <jav...@ce...>]

Yep, I solved it by moving the PC outside the firewall,
which was causing it to not make it through..

But that does raise a point still, and that is if the
primary data source goes down for some reason, is there an
alternate place to get the same data?

-cedrick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pedro Pla [mailto:ped...@ho...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:12 PM
> To: C. Johnson
> Cc: eif...@li...
> Subject: Re: [MAS-discuss] Yahoo charts down, alternate?
>=20
> Hi Cedrick,
>=20
> Did this get solved by moving mas out  of your firewall or
> is it still
> failing? Just not sure whether this email was sent before
> or after our
> last chat ;)
>=20
> Pedro
>=20
>=20
> C. Johnson wrote:
>=20
> >Howdy-
> >
> >I am trying to use MAS (latest version from SF), and it
> >appears that Yahoo's data service is not working (doing a
> >network sniff, I get 503 Service Unavailable, which then
> >I see in the MAS server window as this:
> >
> >Error occurred initiating transfer: File not found
> >Failed to open input file
> >C:\Financial\mas\lib\cached_data\a.txt - file does not
> > exist.
> >
> >
> >Is there an alternate server to use besides yahoo to get
> EOD
> >data to do my TA?
> >
> >thanks,
> >cedrick
> >
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Re: [MAS-discuss] Yahoo charts down, alternate?

[Pedro P. <ped...@ho...>]

Hi Cedrick,

Did this get solved by moving mas out  of your firewall or is it still 
failing? Just not sure whether this email was sent before or after our 
last chat ;)

Pedro


C. Johnson wrote:

>Howdy-
>
>I am trying to use MAS (latest version from SF), and it
>appears that Yahoo's data service is not working (doing a
>network sniff, I get 503 Service Unavailable, which then
>I see in the MAS server window as this:
>
>Error occurred initiating transfer: File not found
>Failed to open input file
>C:\Financial\mas\lib\cached_data\a.txt - file does not
> exist.
>
>
>Is there an alternate server to use besides yahoo to get EOD
>data to do my TA?
>
>thanks,
>cedrick
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[MAS-discuss] Yahoo charts down, alternate?

[C. J. <jav...@ce...>]

Howdy-

I am trying to use MAS (latest version from SF), and it
appears that Yahoo's data service is not working (doing a
network sniff, I get 503 Service Unavailable, which then
I see in the MAS server window as this:

Error occurred initiating transfer: File not found
Failed to open input file
C:\Financial\mas\lib\cached_data\a.txt - file does not
 exist.


Is there an alternate server to use besides yahoo to get EOD
data to do my TA?

thanks,
cedrick

[MAS-discuss] Thanks for your feedback

[Pedro P. <ped...@ho...>]

Hi David, Pawel, Cedrick,

Thanks to all of you for your feedback about whether or not to release 
the new gui for testing now or when it is more complete, I will follow 
your unanimous advice and wait till it is a lot better to release it. 
I've also been quite busy lately and might be so for a while so I'm not 
sure when it will be out but I will try to get it out asap.

Thanks again,
Pedro

Re: [MAS-discuss] New Gui release of mas

[David C. <cro...@in...>]

Pawel Konieczny wrote:
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> As I have currently quite limited time available, I prefer to wait for a
> "bit cleaner" release to provide feedback on.

Yes, i am of the same mind. Better quality feedback and more productive
assessment would be achieved.

--David

Re: [MAS-discuss] New Gui release of mas

[Pawel K. <kon...@us...>]

Hi Pedro,

As I have currently quite limited time available, I prefer to wait for a
"bit cleaner" release to provide feedback on.

Regards,
Pawel

[MAS-discuss] New Gui release of mas

[Pedro P. <ped...@ho...>]

Hi to all of you on the list,

Just wanted to let you all know that we are still working to get the new 
release of the gui out to all of you who tested the first one, it's 
taken a bit longer than I hoped since I've been quite busy at my job and 
have to go some places on business which have distracted me a bit from 
the development of the new release. I would like to know if you would 
prefer to see the new release while it's still missing some important 
"features" or if you prefer to wait for it to be a bit cleaner before 
you take a look at it?

Best regards
Pedro

Re: [MAS-discuss] Corrupted Records in Cache

[Jim C. <jt...@di...>]

> Glad to know it is not just me. When mas says it is discarding the 
> corrupted record, does it throw the entire line away, or does it use the 
> fields it knows how to use and simply ignores the extra field?

Hi Stephen - Sorry for the late response.

I checked a few days ago and it looked like mas does discard the unused
fields and uses the valid ones, so that no data is lost from the user's
POV; but I did not check in detail, so I'd recommend you take a look and
see if mas's reporting for the records for which the extra fields exist is
correct - if the high, low, etc. are correct for each field.  I think it
should not be too hard to check this.

If you do find an opportunity to make this check, I'm sure many people on
this list will be interested in hearing the results.


Jim

> 
> At 01:39 PM 9/30/2003 -0600, Jim Cochrane wrote:
> >Hi Stephen.
> >
> > > Starting last Tuesday I started getting the following error message.
> > >
> > > Errors occurred while processing aa:
> > > Date input value is invalid.
> > > Error occurred after record 1156 (with date/time 09/17/2003 12:00:00.0 AM
).
> > > Discarding corrupted record.
> > > [ Same error records from 09/18/2003 to Today cut. ]
> > > Every symbol in my database has the same error messages. All of them star
t
> > > Monday or Tuesday of last week.
> > >
> > > The data record has an extra field. From the aa.txt file I see.
> > >
> > > 20030916,28.45,28.58,27.91,28.14,4724200
> > > 20030917,27.96,28.18,27.80,28.01,2573100,28.01
> > > I have not made a change to any of the mas configuration file for months.
> > > What changed? Did I miss a Yahoo announcement, or a mas update?
> >
> >I just tried running mas with the web -w option and, indeed, there is now
> >an extra field at the end of the data.  I have no idea what it represents,
> >unless it is perhaps some kind of "after-market trading close" value.
> >It would probably not be very hard to modify the mas code to filter out the
> >last field.  However, I can't do this myself right now due to being busy
> >(unless, of course, I get paid for it).
> >
> >If you know html, you might try fiddling with the "path" setting in the
> >mas_httprc file, although I suspect yahoo's return data format may not be
> >configurable.  It might be worth a try, though.
> >
> >
> >Jim
> >
> > >
> > > --=====================_334354536==.ALT
> > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > > <html>
> > > <body>
> > > Starting last Tuesday I started getting the following error message.
> > > <br><br>
> > > <dl>
> > > <dd>Errors occurred while processing aa:
> > > <dd>Date input value is invalid.
> > > <dd>Error occurred after record 1156 (with date/time 09/17/2003
> > > 12:00:00.0 AM).
> > > <dd>Discarding corrupted record.
> > > <dd>[ Same error records from 09/18/2003 to Today cut. ]
> > > </dl>Every symbol in my database has the same error messages. All of them
> > > start Monday or Tuesday of last week.<br><br>
> > > The data record has an extra field. From the aa.txt file I see.<br><br>
> > > <dl>
> > > <dd><font face="Courier New, 
> > Courier">20030916,28.45,28.58,27.91,28.14,472420
> >0
> > > <dd>20030917,27.96,28.18,27.80,28.01,2573100,28.01
> > > </dl>I have not made a change to any of the mas configuration file for
> > > months. What changed? Did I miss a Yahoo announcement, or a mas
> > > update?<br>
> > > </font></body>
> > > </html>
> > >
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Re: [MAS-discuss] Corrupted Records in Cache

[Stephen O. <st...@os...>]

Glad to know it is not just me. When mas says it is discarding the 
corrupted record, does it throw the entire line away, or does it use the 
fields it knows how to use and simply ignores the extra field?

At 01:39 PM 9/30/2003 -0600, Jim Cochrane wrote:
>Hi Stephen.
>
> > Starting last Tuesday I started getting the following error message.
> >
> > Errors occurred while processing aa:
> > Date input value is invalid.
> > Error occurred after record 1156 (with date/time 09/17/2003 12:00:00.0 AM).
> > Discarding corrupted record.
> > [ Same error records from 09/18/2003 to Today cut. ]
> > Every symbol in my database has the same error messages. All of them start
> > Monday or Tuesday of last week.
> >
> > The data record has an extra field. From the aa.txt file I see.
> >
> > 20030916,28.45,28.58,27.91,28.14,4724200
> > 20030917,27.96,28.18,27.80,28.01,2573100,28.01
> > I have not made a change to any of the mas configuration file for months.
> > What changed? Did I miss a Yahoo announcement, or a mas update?
>
>I just tried running mas with the web -w option and, indeed, there is now
>an extra field at the end of the data.  I have no idea what it represents,
>unless it is perhaps some kind of "after-market trading close" value.
>It would probably not be very hard to modify the mas code to filter out the
>last field.  However, I can't do this myself right now due to being busy
>(unless, of course, I get paid for it).
>
>If you know html, you might try fiddling with the "path" setting in the
>mas_httprc file, although I suspect yahoo's return data format may not be
>configurable.  It might be worth a try, though.
>
>
>Jim
>
> >
> > --=====================_334354536==.ALT
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > <html>
> > <body>
> > Starting last Tuesday I started getting the following error message.
> > <br><br>
> > <dl>
> > <dd>Errors occurred while processing aa:
> > <dd>Date input value is invalid.
> > <dd>Error occurred after record 1156 (with date/time 09/17/2003
> > 12:00:00.0 AM).
> > <dd>Discarding corrupted record.
> > <dd>[ Same error records from 09/18/2003 to Today cut. ]
> > </dl>Every symbol in my database has the same error messages. All of them
> > start Monday or Tuesday of last week.<br><br>
> > The data record has an extra field. From the aa.txt file I see.<br><br>
> > <dl>
> > <dd><font face="Courier New, 
> Courier">20030916,28.45,28.58,27.91,28.14,472420
>0
> > <dd>20030917,27.96,28.18,27.80,28.01,2573100,28.01
> > </dl>I have not made a change to any of the mas configuration file for
> > months. What changed? Did I miss a Yahoo announcement, or a mas
> > update?<br>
> > </font></body>
> > </html>
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