Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Answers below in bold.

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
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From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand" =
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download


> Hi BJ,
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> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
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> >
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >
> > I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
> >
> > In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between =
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> > and
> > themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> > overarching
> > project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
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> Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of your =

> EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,=20
> I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme=20
> changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at =
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> point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can change=20
> where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect the=20
> layout for the entire course, just that page.
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> > When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, =
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> > have
> > others in the template directory. I would like to be able to=20
> > choose others from there without
> > renaming it to default every time..
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> OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.=20
> I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.
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> > Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the =
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> > of
> > Eclass.
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> Will do.
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> > Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? =
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> > so, you
> > need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete =

> > to use
> > them with the new version.
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> There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older=20
> versions.

Ok, the problem here I think was the Template issue and the Karrigell =
issue mentioned below, just didn't realize it at the time.

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> > I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 =
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> > it
> > ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> > separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) =

> > and the
> > bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. =
After I
> > copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> > graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> > Karrigell
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> Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,=20
> that would explain the missing files...

This was a new Eclass
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> (However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be asked=20
> to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies =
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> the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)
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> > ---Little bit later---
> >
> > I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it =
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> > in
> > notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> > index.htm.
> > It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw =
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> > up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
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> !? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the=20
> final release of b4.
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> > The search function does not work...neither search.py nor =
search.exe.
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> I'll take a look at this.
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> > When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I=20
> > published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> > the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> > Audio/video/image.
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> > ---Little bit later, again----
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> > The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =

> > template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it =
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> > fine and everything showed up.
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> Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't working,=20
> or one that you created?
The Template that came with 2.5b4 did not work, but others including =
ones I have created solved the problem.
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> > I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
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> Thanks!!
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> Kevin
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>

Let me know when you get a new version and I will be happy to keep =
testing.

BJ