eclass-users

[Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi everyone,

I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for testing. 
You can download it from:

http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe

I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web site 
for download.

What's changed?

- New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system for 
localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system is more 
automated (I can automatically update the translation dictionaries), 
can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and 
there's even a little program people can use to update the localization 
files. You can learn more about how to update the localization files by 
checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd 
particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing 
EClass into Spanish or French on this.

- Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages 
one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets you 
automatically upload a file any time it is changed.

- Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.

- Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the filename 
for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.

In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass interface 
with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the web 
site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:

http://www.eclass.net/newlook

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.

I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k machine)

In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between templates =
and
themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an overarching
project layout, while a template is a page design. True?

When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, I =
have
others in the template directory. I would like to be able to choose =
others from there without
renaming it to default every time..

Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the version =
of
Eclass.

Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? If =
so, you
need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete to =
use
them with the new version.

I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 and it
ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) and =
the
bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. After I
copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but the
Karrigell

---Little bit later---

I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it up in
notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses =
index.htm.
It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw you =
up. It works fine after I rename the index file.

The search function does not work...neither search.py nor search.exe.

When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I published. =
I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved the setting, it =
just doesn't output. Same thing happens with Audio/video/image.

---Little bit later, again----

The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =
template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it worked =
fine and everything showed up.

I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to=20
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

Thanks,

BJ

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: <ecl...@li...>
Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:38 PM
Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download


> Hi everyone,
>=20
> I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for testing.=20
> You can download it from:
>=20
> http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
>=20
> I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web site=20
> for download.
>=20
> What's changed?
>=20
> - New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system for=20
> localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system is =
more=20
> automated (I can automatically update the translation dictionaries),=20
> can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and=20
> there's even a little program people can use to update the =
localization=20
> files. You can learn more about how to update the localization files =
by=20
> checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd=20
> particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing=20
> EClass into Spanish or French on this.
>=20
> - Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages=20
> one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets you=20
> automatically upload a file any time it is changed.
>=20
> - Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.
>=20
> - Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the filename =

> for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.
>=20
> In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass interface=20
> with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the web =

> site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:
>=20
> http://www.eclass.net/newlook
>=20
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
>=20
>=20
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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

>
> Hi Kevino,
>
> A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
>
> I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
>
> In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between templates=20=

> and
> themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> overarching
> project layout, while a template is a page design. True?

Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of your=20=

EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,=20
I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme=20
changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at this=20=

point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can change=20
where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect the=20
layout for the entire course, just that page.

> When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, I=20=

> have
> others in the template directory. I would like to=A0be able to=20
> choose=A0others from there without
> renaming it=A0to default every time..

OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.=20
I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.

> Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the version=20=

> of
> Eclass.

Will do.

> Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? If=20=

> so, you
> need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete=20=

> to use
> them with the new version.

There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older=20
versions.

> I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 and=20=

> it
> ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm)=20=

> and the
> bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. After =
I
> copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> Karrigell

Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,=20
that would explain the missing files...

(However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be asked=20
to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies all=20=

the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)

> ---Little bit later---
>
> I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it up=20=

> in
> notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> index.htm.
> It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw you=20=

> up. It works fine after I rename the index file.

!? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the=20
final release of b4.

> The search function does not work...neither search.py nor search.exe.

I'll take a look at this.

> When I added=A0text to a=A0page, it did not display even after I=20
> published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> Audio/video/image.
> =A0
> ---Little bit later, again----
> =A0
> The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the=20=

> template. I copied and renamed an old one=A0to default.tpl=A0and it =
worked=20
> fine and everything showed up.

Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't working,=20
or one that you created?

> I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
>  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

Thanks!!

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Answers below in bold.

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand" =
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download


> Hi BJ,
>=20
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >
> > I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
> >
> > In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between =
templates=20
> > and
> > themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> > overarching
> > project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
>=20
> Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of your =

> EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,=20
> I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme=20
> changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at =
this=20
> point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can change=20
> where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect the=20
> layout for the entire course, just that page.
>=20
> > When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, =
I=20
> > have
> > others in the template directory. I would like to be able to=20
> > choose others from there without
> > renaming it to default every time..
>=20
> OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.=20
> I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.
>=20
> > Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the =
version=20
> > of
> > Eclass.
>=20
> Will do.
>=20
> > Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? =
If=20
> > so, you
> > need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete =

> > to use
> > them with the new version.
>=20
> There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older=20
> versions.

Ok, the problem here I think was the Template issue and the Karrigell =
issue mentioned below, just didn't realize it at the time.

>=20
> > I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 =
and=20
> > it
> > ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> > separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) =

> > and the
> > bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. =
After I
> > copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> > graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> > Karrigell
>=20
> Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,=20
> that would explain the missing files...

This was a new Eclass
>=20
> (However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be asked=20
> to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies =
all=20
> the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)
>=20
> > ---Little bit later---
> >
> > I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it =
up=20
> > in
> > notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> > index.htm.
> > It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw =
you=20
> > up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
>=20
> !? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the=20
> final release of b4.
>=20
> > The search function does not work...neither search.py nor =
search.exe.
>=20
> I'll take a look at this.
>=20
> > When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I=20
> > published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> > the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> > Audio/video/image.
> >=20
> > ---Little bit later, again----
> >=20
> > The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =

> > template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it =
worked=20
> > fine and everything showed up.
>=20
> Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't working,=20
> or one that you created?
The Template that came with 2.5b4 did not work, but others including =
ones I have created solved the problem.
>=20
> > I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
>=20
> Thanks!!
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
>

Let me know when you get a new version and I will be happy to keep =
testing.

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I copied the List as I think I am asking questions/facing problems other may
be going through.

Ok, I got what you are saying...I use themes instead of templates. Within
the themes, I can place/change my templates. What happens if I want to use
more than one template per theme, say one for class pages and one for
quizzes? Would I need to edit the python file, to make quizzes use something
different than the default.tpl template?

Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have switched
templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I still get
the original theme. Ideas?

Thanks,

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download


> Hi BJ,
>
> It looks like you are making changes that you want to appear on all
> pages. (i.e. changing the page background graphic, or adding links that
> appear on all pages) In the new version, themes might be more
> appropriate for this kind of customization. Have you checked the
> documentation on themes in the Help file? The info you're looking for
> would be in "Advanced Options->Working with Themes".
>
> Let me know if this is of any help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 1:21 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > Basically, I was using templates to customize the EClass pages.
> >
> > In some cases, I was putting a background graphic, others I was
> > including my
> > own buttons and features.
> > For example
> > I did this with templates:
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > BJ
> >
> > William 'BJ' Cameron
> > Payson Center
> > Tulane University
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for
> > download
> >
> >
> >> Hi BJ,
> >>
> >> Just for some more info, what were you planning on doing using the
> >> templates feature? The more I look at them, the more I realize the
> >> current implementation is seriously broken. Also, I'll need to support
> >> a much more complex template language than what EClass currently
> >> supports to make templates work as I see them working. So I wanted to
> >> ask you what you are trying to do with them, so that I can get an idea
> >> of what direction I should go in with this.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On Mar 18, 2004, at 9:44 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>
> >>> Answers below in bold.
> >>>
> >>> William 'BJ' Cameron
> >>> Payson Center
> >>> Tulane University
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> >>> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> >>> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> >>> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for
> >>> download
> >>>
> >>>> Hi BJ,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kevino,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k
> >>> machine)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between
> >>> templates
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an
> >>>>> overarching
> >>>>> project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, the idea is that Themes control the overall look and feel of
> >>> your
> >>>> EClass, like FrontPage's borders and Dreamweaver's "templates" (yes,
> >>>> I'd consider them a theme instead). Any change you make to a theme
> >>>> changes the look of the entire EClass. EClass's "templates" are at
> >>> this
> >>>> point specifically for the EClass Page format, so that you can
> >>>> change
> >>>> where the video appears, audio appears, etc. This wouldn't affect
> >>>> the
> >>>> layout for the entire course, just that page.
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I open page properties, I can only choose the default
> >>> template, I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> others in the template directory. I would like to be able to
> >>>>> choose others from there without
> >>>>> renaming it to default every time..
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, there are obviously some bugs here and I need to test some more.
> >>>> I'll try to get a fix in for the final release of b4.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the
> >>> version
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> Eclass.
> >>>>
> >>>> Will do.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass?
> >>> If
> >>>>> so, you
> >>>>> need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to
> >>> delete
> >>>>> to use
> >>>>> them with the new version.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is not to my knowledge any compatibility problems with older
> >>>> versions.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, the problem here I think was the Template issue and the Karrigell
> >>> issue mentioned below, just didn't realize it at the time.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4
> >>> and
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm
> >>> file
> >>>>> separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame
> >>> (menu.htm)
> >>>>> and the
> >>>>> bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine.
> >>> After I
> >>>>> copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the
> >>> menu
> >>>>> graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared,
> >>> but the
> >>>>> Karrigell
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this a new EClass? Did you run the Export to CD function? If not,
> >>>> that would explain the missing files...
> >>>
> >>> This was a new Eclass
> >>>>
> >>>> (However, this points out an issue I should fix - you should be
> >>>> asked
> >>>> to pick a theme when a new EClass is created, so that EClass copies
> >>> all
> >>>> the theme files over when you start building your EClass.)
> >>>>
> >>>>> ---Little bit later---
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it
> >>> up
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses
> >>>>> index.htm.
> >>>>> It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw
> >>> you
> >>>>> up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
> >>>>
> >>>> !? You're right, I can't believe I missed this. Will be fixed in the
> >>>> final release of b4.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The search function does not work...neither search.py nor
> >>> search.exe.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll take a look at this.
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I
> >>>>> published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved
> >>>>> the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with
> >>>>> Audio/video/image.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---Little bit later, again----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is
> >>> the
> >>>>> template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it
> >>> worked
> >>>>> fine and everything showed up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it the template that came with EClass.Builder that wasn't
> >>>> working,
> >>>> or one that you created?
> >>> The Template that came with 2.5b4 did not work, but others including
> >>> ones I have created solved the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >>>>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Kevin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Let me know when you get a new version and I will be happy to keep
> >>> testing.
> >>>
> >>> BJ
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 22, 2004, at 3:56 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I copied the List as I think I am asking questions/facing problems 
> other may
> be going through.
>
> Ok, I got what you are saying...I use themes instead of templates. 
> Within
> the themes, I can place/change my templates. What happens if I want to 
> use
> more than one template per theme, say one for class pages and one for
> quizzes? Would I need to edit the python file, to make quizzes use 
> something
> different than the default.tpl template?

Yes, you'd need to edit the plugins/quiz.py file to make it use a 
different template (do a search for "themes" to find it). What in 
particular were you thinking of changing?

> Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have 
> switched
> templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I 
> still get
> the original theme. Ideas?

Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no 
reason to update every page when publishing anymore.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevin,


> > Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have 
> > switched
> > templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I 
> > still get
> > the original theme. Ideas?
> 
> Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no 
> reason to update every page when publishing anymore.

Nope, that's not working either. Any other ideas?

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Could you explain exactly what you did to edit the theme?

Thanks,

Kevin

On Mar 22, 2004, at 10:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
>
>>> Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have
>>> switched
>>> templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I
>>> still get
>>> the original theme. Ideas?
>>
>> Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no
>> reason to update every page when publishing anymore.
>
> Nope, that's not working either. Any other ideas?
>
> BJ
>
>
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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I have done nothing to edit the theme. I just wanted to switch from the
"frames" theme to "non-frames" theme.

I opened my course (created in 2.5b4), and then opened the "Theme Manager"
and selected "Default (non-frames)". I clicked on "Use this theme". I closed
the Theme Manager and then I clicked on "refresh theme" in the File menu. I
then published my course to CD-ROM, and when I opened my course, nothing had
changed, it was the frames theme that I had to start with.

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download


> Hi BJ,
>
> Could you explain exactly what you did to edit the theme?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Mar 22, 2004, at 10:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> >
> >>> Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have
> >>> switched
> >>> templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I
> >>> still get
> >>> the original theme. Ideas?
> >>
> >> Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no
> >> reason to update every page when publishing anymore.
> >
> > Nope, that's not working either. Any other ideas?
> >
> > BJ
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of
> > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system
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>

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Please send me your errlog.txt file, I'm pretty sure you've encountered 
some sort of error while publishing.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Mar 22, 2004, at 11:08 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I have done nothing to edit the theme. I just wanted to switch from the
> "frames" theme to "non-frames" theme.
>
> I opened my course (created in 2.5b4), and then opened the "Theme 
> Manager"
> and selected "Default (non-frames)". I clicked on "Use this theme". I 
> closed
> the Theme Manager and then I clicked on "refresh theme" in the File 
> menu. I
> then published my course to CD-ROM, and when I opened my course, 
> nothing had
> changed, it was the frames theme that I had to start with.
>
> BJ
>
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for 
> download
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> Could you explain exactly what you did to edit the theme?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2004, at 10:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Also, I don't think my theme manager is working correctly. I have
>>>>> switched
>>>>> templates (to no frames) and published and nothing is different, I
>>>>> still get
>>>>> the original theme. Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Try File->Refresh Theme. Other than changing the theme, there's no
>>>> reason to update every page when publishing anymore.
>>>
>>> Nope, that's not working either. Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials
>>> Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of
>>> GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system
>>> administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Eclass-users mailing list
>>> Ecl...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/eclass-users
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

I've patched up all the bugs BJ found and uploaded a new draft for=20
beta4 here:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe

Thanks for all the help and please keep the bug reports coming! (Unless=20=

of course, there aren't any to report. =3D)

Kevin

On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

>
> Hi Kevino,
>
> A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
>
> I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
>
> In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between templates=20=

> and
> themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> overarching
> project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
>
> When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, I=20=

> have
> others in the template directory. I would like to=A0be able to=20
> choose=A0others from there without
> renaming it=A0to default every time..
>
> Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the version=20=

> of
> Eclass.
>
> Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? If=20=

> so, you
> need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete=20=

> to use
> them with the new version.
>
> I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 and=20=

> it
> ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm)=20=

> and the
> bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. After =
I
> copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> Karrigell
>
> ---Little bit later---
>
> I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it up=20=

> in
> notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> index.htm.
> It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw you=20=

> up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
> =A0
> The search function does not work...neither search.py nor search.exe.
> =A0
> When I added=A0text to a=A0page, it did not display even after I=20
> published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> Audio/video/image.
> =A0
> ---Little bit later, again----
> =A0
> The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the=20=

> template. I copied and renamed an old one=A0to default.tpl=A0and it =
worked=20
> fine and everything showed up.
> =A0
> I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
>  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> =A0
> Thanks,
> =A0
> BJ
>
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: <ecl...@li...>
> Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for =
testing.
> > You can download it from:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
> >
> > I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web site
> > for download.
> >
> > What's changed?
> >
> > - New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system for
>  > localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system is=20=

> more
>  > automated (I can automatically update the translation =
dictionaries),
> > can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and
>  > there's even a little program people can use to update the=20
> localization
>  > files. You can learn more about how to update the localization=20
> files by
> > checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd
> > particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing
> > EClass into Spanish or French on this.
> >
> > - Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages
> > one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets =
you
> > automatically upload a file any time it is changed.
> >
>  > - Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.
> >
> > - Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the=20
> filename
> > for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.
> >
> > In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass interface
> > with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the=20=

> web
> > site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/newlook
> >
>  > Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials
> > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO =
of
> > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system
> > =
administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D1470&alloc_id=3D3638&op=3Dclic=
k
> > _______________________________________________
> > Eclass-users mailing list
> > Ecl...@li...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/eclass-users
> >=

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

New versions looks good and all of the previously mentioned problems are =
fixed.

New issues,=20
  1.. The course page can't be edited. Whenever I double click on it or =
click the edit button, it brings up the page properties window. When you =
publish, the page can't be found. Another funny thing about this is it =
point to the "file" directory. Perhaps related to #2

  2.. If you use the "No Frames" theme and publish, the index.htm file =
redirects the page to the "file" directory, where this isn't a =
default.htm/index.htm. A little strange.

  3.. I switched back to the "Frames" theme and published, everything =
looks fine (except #1). However, when you use the Search (I used the =
Swish-e ) an error comes up, Zlib.dll is missing. I copied it in from an =
older eclass, and then got the message "index.swish-e" was missing. As =
this is a Project specific file, It wouldn't do me much good to copy it =
in. I then copied in the entire CGI-bin directory from a previous =
version and got more errors, so obviously this is not the solution. =
Ideas?

  4.. Funny thing about #1, If you open a course previously created in =
another version of Eclass, you can edit the course page.
That's a start, I will re-install and see if I can help pinpoint #3.

BJ




William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand" =
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download


> Hi all,
>=20
> I've patched up all the bugs BJ found and uploaded a new draft for=20
> beta4 here:
>=20
> http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
>=20
> Thanks for all the help and please keep the bug reports coming! =
(Unless=20
> of course, there aren't any to report. =3D)
>=20
> Kevin
>=20
> On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>=20
> >
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> >
> > I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k =
machine)
> >
> > In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between =
templates=20
> > and
> > themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an=20
> > overarching
> > project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
> >
> > When I open page properties, I can only choose the default template, =
I=20
> > have
> > others in the template directory. I would like to be able to=20
> > choose others from there without
> > renaming it to default every time..
> >
> > Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the =
version=20
> > of
> > Eclass.
> >
> > Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass? =
If=20
> > so, you
> > need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to delete =

> > to use
> > them with the new version.
> >
> > I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4 =
and=20
> > it
> > ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm file
> > separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame (menu.htm) =

> > and the
> > bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine. =
After I
> > copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the menu
> > graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared, but =
the
> > Karrigell
> >
> > ---Little bit later---
> >
> > I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it =
up=20
> > in
> > notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses=20
> > index.htm.
> > It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw =
you=20
> > up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
> >=20
> > The search function does not work...neither search.py nor =
search.exe.
> >=20
> > When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I=20
> > published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it saved=20
> > the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with=20
> > Audio/video/image.
> >=20
> > ---Little bit later, again----
> >=20
> > The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is the =

> > template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it =
worked=20
> > fine and everything showed up.
> >=20
> > I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> >  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> >=20
> > BJ
> >
> > William 'BJ' Cameron
> > Payson Center
> > Tulane University
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > To: <ecl...@li...>
> > Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> > Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for =
download
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for =
testing.
> > > You can download it from:
> > >
> > > http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
> > >
> > > I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web =
site
> > > for download.
> > >
> > > What's changed?
> > >
> > > - New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system =
for
> >  > localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new system =
is=20
> > more
> >  > automated (I can automatically update the translation =
dictionaries),
> > > can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and
> >  > there's even a little program people can use to update the=20
> > localization
> >  > files. You can learn more about how to update the localization=20
> > files by
> > > checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd
> > > particularly like to hear feedback from people who are localizing
> > > EClass into Spanish or French on this.
> > >
> > > - Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages
> > > one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that lets =
you
> > > automatically upload a file any time it is changed.
> > >
> >  > - Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other users.
> > >
> > > - Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the=20
> > filename
> > > for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.
> > >
> > > In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass =
interface
> > > with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating the =

> > web
> > > site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found at:
> > >
> > > http://www.eclass.net/newlook
> > >
> >  > Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials
> > > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO =
of
> > > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system
> > > =
administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D1470&alloc_id=3D3638&op=3Dcli=
ck
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Eclass-users mailing list
> > > Ecl...@li...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/eclass-users
> > >
> 

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 25, 2004, at 8:46 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> New versions looks good and all of the previously mentioned=A0problems=20=

> are fixed.
> =A0
> New issues,
> 	1.  	 The course page can't be edited. Whenever I double =
click on it=20
> or click the edit button, it brings up the page properties window.=20
> When you publish, the page can't be found. Another funny thing about=20=

> this is it point to the "file" directory. Perhaps related to #2
> 	2.  	If you use the "No Frames" theme and publish, the =
index.htm file=20
> redirects the page to the=A0"file"=A0directory, where this isn't a=20
> default.htm/index.htm. A little strange.

I'll look into this, but it looks like the course page is not being=20
created or saved for some reason? It points to the file directory=20
because it can't find the file. That's also why Page Properties opens.=20=

Also, #2 is quite likely a result of #1.

> 	3.  	I switched back to the "Frames" theme and published, =
everything=20
> looks fine (except #1). However, when you use the Search (I used the=20=

> Swish-e=A0) an error comes up, Zlib.dll is missing. I copied it in =
from=20
> an older eclass, and then got the message "index.swish-e" was missing.=20=

> As this is a Project specific file, It wouldn't do me much good to=20
> copy it in. I then copied in the entire CGI-bin directory from a=20
> previous version and got more errors, so obviously this is not the=20
> solution. Ideas?

I'll check into the missing zlib.dll file, but as for index.swish-e,=20
just click on the "Publish to CD" icon to re-create it. Unfortunately,=20=

like with Greenstone, you have to update the entire index at one time,=20=

so I don't automatically update it when pages have changed. Then, from=20=

there, you should be able to use the default b4 cgi-bin dir, just=20
adding in zlib.dll.

However, SWISH-E already has experimental support for "incremental=20
indexing", which means you can add/remove content to the index without=20=

having to rebuild the entire index. Hopefully by the end of the year=20
that will mean that whenever you save a page, I can automatically=20
update the index. =3D)

> 	4.  	Funny thing about #1, If you open a course previously =
created in=20
> another version of Eclass, you can edit the course page.
> That's a start, I will re-install and see if I can help pinpoint #3.

Yes, #1 is definitely related to a bug when creating a new course. Will=20=

do some more investigating and let you know!

Thanks,

Kevin

> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"=20
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for=20
> download
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've patched up all the bugs BJ found and uploaded a new draft for
> > beta4 here:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
> >
> > Thanks for all the help and please keep the bug reports coming!=20
> (Unless
> > of course, there aren't any to report. =3D)
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > On Mar 18, 2004, at 8:35 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Kevino,
> > >
> > > A few issues/suggestions/problems I have with 2.5b4.
> > >
> > > I have not been able to get system preferences to open. (win2k=20
> machine)
> > >
> > > In the tutorial, you need to explain the difference between=20
> templates
> > > and
> > > themes. I think I understand the difference as a theme is an
> > > overarching
> > > project layout, while a template is a page design. True?
> > >
> > > When I open page properties, I can only choose the default=20
> template, I
> > > have
> > > others in the template directory. I would like to be able to
> > > choose others from there without
> > > renaming it to default every time..
> > >
> > > Under the Help menu, in the About section, you should list the=20
> version
> > > of
> > > Eclass.
> > >
> > > Is there a compatibility problem with previous versions of Eclass?=20=

> If
> > > so, you
> > > need some explanation on how to import them, or what files to=20
> delete
> > > to use
> > > them with the new version.
> > >
> > > I just tried the Karrigell.exe file on an eclass created in 2.5b4=20=

> and
> > > it
> > > ran. However, it couldn't display the page. I ran the index.htm=20
> file
> > > separately, it has problems displaying the top left frame=20
> (menu.htm)
> > > and the
> > > bottom left frame (menucntrl.htm) The main Frame shows up fine.=20
> After I
> > > copied them in(from a previous Version), it worked. However the=20
> menu
> > > graphics were gone, I then copied them in. Everything appeared,=20
> but the
> > > Karrigell
> > >
> > > ---Little bit later---
> > >
> > > I figured out the problem with the Karrigell.exe file. I opened it=20=

> up
>  > > in
> > > notepad and noticed it points to index.html. Eclass builder uses
> > > index.htm.
> > > It is funny and very frustrating how a single character can screw=20=

> you
> > > up. It works fine after I rename the index file.
> > >
> > > The search function does not work...neither search.py nor=20
> search.exe.
> > >
> > > When I added text to a page, it did not display even after I
> > > published. I open the page to edit it, and it is there, so it =
saved
> > > the setting, it just doesn't output. Same thing happens with
> > > Audio/video/image.
> > >
> > > ---Little bit later, again----
> > >
> > > The problem with the displaying of the text/image/audio/video is=20=

> the
> > > template. I copied and renamed an old one to default.tpl and it=20
> worked
> > > fine and everything showed up.
> > >
> > > I guess that is enough for now. I have uploaded the errlog.txt to
> > >=A0 http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > BJ
> > >
> > > William 'BJ' Cameron
> > > Payson Center
> > > Tulane University
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >=A0 From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> > > To: <ecl...@li...>
> > > Cc: "Bill Bertrand" <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:38 PM
> > > Subject: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for=20
> download
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I've released a new version of EClass.Builder on Windows for=20
> testing.
> > > > You can download it from:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eclass.net/downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
> > > >
> > > > I will wait a few days for feedback and then post it on the web=20=

> site
> > > > for download.
> > > >
> > > > What's changed?
> > > >
> > > > - New localization (translation) system: EClass has a new system=20=

> for
> > >=A0 > localizing the interface into foreign languages. The new =
system=20
> is
> > > more
> > >=A0 > automated (I can automatically update the translation=20
> dictionaries),
> > > > can automatically detect and use the user's system language, and
> > >=A0 > there's even a little program people can use to update the
> > > localization
> > >=A0 > files. You can learn more about how to update the =
localization
>  > > files by
> > > > checking the help file, under "Advanced/Localizing EClass". I'd
> > > > particularly like to hear feedback from people who are =
localizing
> > > > EClass into Spanish or French on this.
> > > >
> > > > - Further improved FTP capabilities: now you can upload pages
> > > > one-by-one, and there's a "Upload Files on Save" option that=20
> lets you
> > > > automatically upload a file any time it is changed.
> > > >
> > >=A0 > - Theme import/export: You can now share themes with other=20
> users.
> > > >
> > > > - Manual filenames: Now you can tell EClass what you want the
> > > filename
> > > > for a particular file to be, rather than having it decide.
> > > >
> > > > In addition, I've replaced the old help file in the EClass=20
> interface
> > > > with the new one I've been working on, and I plan on migrating=20=

> the
> > > web
> > > > site to the new look next week as well. The draft can be found=20=

> at:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eclass.net/newlook
> > > >
> > >=A0 > Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevin,

I downloaded the new version of Eclass. The bugs with the front page and =
the html editor seem to be fixed. Also, the theme/template looks much =
better.

Problems/issues
  1.. The search using swish-e is still not working correctly. When =
publishing, I get the missing Zlib.dll error, and then when trying to =
view my results, the index.swish-e is not there. =
"C:\DOCUME~1\BJCAME~1\MYDOCU~1\ECLASS~1\demo3\cgi-bin\..\index.swish-e =
does not exist".

  I added the zlib.dll from another eclass, and there was no error on =
publishing, but the same result when viewing results of the search =
"Index file =
C:\DOCUME~1\BJCAME~1\MYDOCU~1\ECLASS~1\demo3\cgi-bin\..\index.swish-e =
does not exist." The file does not exist anywhere in my publication

  What is going on with the path before index.swishe-e? "\..\" Does that =
mean it is trying to go back to the root directory of the EClass?=20

  2.. I am having problems using web pages and a quiz pages in the same =
course. Depending on the order, the latter takes on the formers' =
display/properties. It is funny because if you add a regular eclass =
page, often the problems are fixed. However, it can happen if you use a =
quiz page and then an eclass page. I am probably not explaining this =
right, so I have uploaded a demo course to my site for you to view/play =
with.
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo3/.
  I have also uploaded a copy of the errlog.txt
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt


  3.. I am still getting the Dr. Watson Error page. =
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error2.jpg Is this possibly a =
memory issue? I have noticed it mostly happens when I have had the =
computer running for a while and I have several applications open. Still =
my computer has over 522mb of RAM, I would think a few apps wouldn't =
hurt.

I will keep working on it and let you know if I see anything else or =
patterns in the above problems.



BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Mar 30, 2004, at 7:04 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> =A0
> I downloaded the new version of Eclass. The bugs with the front page=20=

> and the html editor seem to be fixed. Also, the theme/template looks=20=

> much better.
> =A0
> Problems/issues
> 	1.  	The search using swish-e is still not working correctly. =
When=20
> publishing, I get the missing Zlib.dll error, and then when trying to=20=

> view my results, the index.swish-e is not there.=20
> "C:\DOCUME~1\BJCAME~1\MYDOCU~1\ECLASS~1\demo3\cgi-bin\..\index.swish-e=20=

> does not exist".
>
> I added the zlib.dll from another eclass, and there was no error on=20
> publishing, but the same result when viewing results of the search=20
> "Index file=20
> C:\DOCUME~1\BJCAME~1\MYDOCU~1\ECLASS~1\demo3\cgi-bin\..\index.swish-e=20=

> does not exist." The file does not exist anywhere in my publication
>
> What is=A0going on=A0with the path before index.swishe-e? "\..\" Does =
that=20
> mean it is trying to go back to the root directory of the EClass?=A0

Yes, because the search program is in the cgi-bin subdirectory but the=20=

index is in the root directory. But you say index.swish-e does not=20
exist? Strange, I am able to publish properly here using a clean=20
install of EClass.Builder. I'll have to setup EClass to send the=20
SWISH-E output to the error log so I can see what it says on your=20
machine.

> 	2.  	I am having problems using web pages and a quiz pages=A0in=
 the=20
> same course. Depending on the order, the latter takes on the formers'=20=

> display/properties. It is funny because if you add a regular eclass=20
> page,=A0often the problems are fixed.=A0However, it can=A0happen if =
you use=20
> a quiz page and then an eclass page. I am probably not explaining this=20=

> right, so I have uploaded a demo course to my site for you to=20
> view/play with.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo3/.
> I have also uploaded a copy of the errlog.txt
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

Figured this one out, thanks for catching it. EClass has always=20
provided some checking to make sure you don't use the same filename,=20
but it didn't check to see if files with other extensions have the same=20=

filename. (i.e. NewPage.ecp and NewPage.html were allowed) However,=20
both of those would get published as "NewPage.htm" and so one would=20
overwrite the other. Fixed.

> 	3.  	I am still getting the Dr. Watson Error page.=20
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error2.jpg=A0Is this possibly =
a=20
> memory issue? I have noticed it mostly happens when I have had the=20
> computer running for a while and I have several applications open.=20
> Still my computer has over 522mb of RAM, I would think a few apps=20
> wouldn't hurt.

It is a memory issue, but it's not due to your computer lacking memory.=20=

The issue is basically that the program is trying to access some code=20
that is no longer in memory. My guess is that if you close the server=20
while it's performing an operation, it does this because it doesn't=20
"shut down" in the correct order. Unfortunately, tracking this one down=20=

will take some time. Since I'm thinking about using Documancer to view=20=

and search EClasses anyways, I think I'm going to head in that=20
direction instead.

> I will keep working on it and let you know if I see anything else or=20=

> patterns in the above problems.

Thanks!

Kevin

[Eclass-users] Problems and a solution!!

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Greenstone is not working properly with EClass 2.5b4. Besides the =
problem I mentioned yesterday:
  1.. The home.dm macro does not display the Eclass start page "Start =
Eclass", but rather the standard Greenstone interface. =20
  2.. The EClass directory is not in the "C:\Program =
Files\gsdl\tmp\<publication ID>\gsdl=20
  3.. Finally, If you search your results, the "pub" directory is double =
entered, for example
  http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/pub/New_Page_2.htm , while in the =
past it was
  http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/New_Page_2.htm

I had problems with Theme manager, See:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error3.jpg
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

This occurred after I copied my template from a previous EClass, bad =
template? The worse thing is that I seem to have corrupted my Default =
(frames) template. While using a Bad template is not Eclass' fault, =
people will write bad templates, and EClass needs to recover...no?

Now, Whenever I click on Default (frames) it gives me a "preparing to =
update E-Class", but nothing happens.=20
If I publish or preview, In the  "main" frame, I get "cannot find page". =
I copied the themes directory over from another installation, and that =
still hasn't fixed the problem. The problem itself seems to be isolated =
to that one eclass. I have since opened other eclasses and they update =
and refresh the theme fine.

<<<<Later>>>
I tried copying the same template again, and it worked fine. I think the =
key may be that you need to close eclass first, then copy the template =
in. Doesn't make sense though as the changes don't occur until after you =
"Refresh the Theme".



I found a fix for the search using Swish-e. I copied an old version of =
the zlib.dll into C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder 2.5b4\SWISH-E =
directory. Now everything works fine, (indexing and searching).  What is =
up with the Zlib1.dll and zlib-1.dll that are currently in that =
directory?



Have a good weekend,

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Problems and a comment/suggestion

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevin,

Problems
  1.. Eclass is having problems with hotwords. When a new EClass is =
created it automatically creates the Files directory. However when you =
want to hotword link a word to a file in this directory the path is to =
File, even though you selected the file from the Files directory. =
Obviously, it then can't find the page. FYI, the swishe.conf also points =
to the File directory.

  2.. Not sure why this happens, but when I used a flash file for a =
video in the page editor, the audio portion does not play. I opened it =
in IE, and it works fine. Also, the size is quite small, anyway to =
adjust that?

  3.. I used the same Flash file and I put it into the "Present" =
directory and used it as a Presentation. It worked great in the EClass =
IE window, but when I tried to view it using the server, I get "goobly =
gook". If I view it without the server it runs fine.=20
  4.. The same exact thing happens if you use a PPT with the server.

  5.. The search function isn't searching the section text, only titles =
of the pages. =20

Comment/suggestion:
  1.. Is there any way, other than editing the publication file, to get =
an image into the quiz page? Not all questions are best asked using only =
words. For example you may need a supply/demand curve.

Thanks,

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

[Eclass-users] Re: Problems and a solution!!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

On Apr 2, 2004, at 4:45 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Greenstone is not working properly with EClass 2.5b4. Besides the=20
> problem I mentioned yesterday:
> 	1.  	The home.dm macro=A0does not display the Eclass start =
page=A0"Start=20
> Eclass", but rather the standard Greenstone interface.=A0
> 	2.  	The EClass directory is not in the "C:\Program=20
> Files\gsdl\tmp\<publication ID>\gsdl
> 	3.  	Finally, If you search your results, the "pub" directory =
is=20
> double entered, for example
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/pub/New_Page_2.htm=A0, while in the=20=

> past it was
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/New_Page_2.htm
> =A0
> I had problems with Theme manager, See:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error3.jpg
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> =A0
> This occurred after I copied my template from a previous EClass, bad=20=

> template? The worse thing is that I seem to have corrupted my Default=20=

> (frames) template. While using a Bad template is not Eclass'=20
> fault,=A0people will write bad templates, and EClass needs to=20
> recover...no?

I don't think it was a bad template in this case. Actually, your error=20=

log shows the error as related to Greenstone.

> Now, Whenever I click on Default (frames) it gives me a "preparing to=20=

> update E-Class", but nothing happens.
>  If I publish or preview, In the=A0 "main" frame, I get "cannot find=20=

> page". I copied the themes directory over from another installation,=20=

> and that still hasn't fixed the problem. The problem itself seems to=20=

> be isolated to that one eclass. I have since opened other eclasses and=20=

> they update and refresh the theme fine.
> =A0
> <<<<Later>>>
> I tried copying the same template again, and it worked fine. I think=20=

> the key may be that you need to close eclass first, then copy the=20
> template in. Doesn't make sense though as the changes don't occur=20
> until after you "Refresh the Theme".
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> I found a fix for the search using Swish-e. I copied an old version of=20=

> the zlib.dll into C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder 2.5b4\SWISH-E=20
> directory. Now everything works fine, (indexing and searching).=A0 =
What=20
> is up with the Zlib1.dll and zlib-1.dll that are currently in that=20
> directory?
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Have a good weekend,
> =A0
> BJ

[Eclass-users] Re: Problems and a solution!!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Sorry, sent the previous message too soon. What I meant to say is that=20=

your theme problems are actually also stemming from Greenstone issues.=20=

I will have this fixed for the next version.

As for Zlib-1.dll, I'll have to look into this more, but at least at=20
one point it was actually giving me errors when I had zlib.dll in there=20=

saying I needed zlib1.dll instead. So I renamed the file and it worked=20=

fine. I'll figure out what is going here as well.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 2, 2004, at 4:45 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Greenstone is not working properly with EClass 2.5b4. Besides the=20
> problem I mentioned yesterday:
> 	1.  	The home.dm macro=A0does not display the Eclass start =
page=A0"Start=20
> Eclass", but rather the standard Greenstone interface.=A0
> 	2.  	The EClass directory is not in the "C:\Program=20
> Files\gsdl\tmp\<publication ID>\gsdl
> 	3.  	Finally, If you search your results, the "pub" directory =
is=20
> double entered, for example
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/pub/New_Page_2.htm=A0, while in the=20=

> past it was
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/New_Page_2.htm
> =A0
> I had problems with Theme manager, See:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error3.jpg
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> =A0
> This occurred after I copied my template from a previous EClass, bad=20=

> template? The worse thing is that I seem to have corrupted my Default=20=

> (frames) template. While using a Bad template is not Eclass'=20
> fault,=A0people will write bad templates, and EClass needs to=20
> recover...no?
> =A0
> Now, Whenever I click on Default (frames) it gives me a "preparing to=20=

> update E-Class", but nothing happens.
>  If I publish or preview, In the=A0 "main" frame, I get "cannot find=20=

> page". I copied the themes directory over from another installation,=20=

> and that still hasn't fixed the problem. The problem itself seems to=20=

> be isolated to that one eclass. I have since opened other eclasses and=20=

> they update and refresh the theme fine.
> =A0
> <<<<Later>>>
> I tried copying the same template again, and it worked fine. I think=20=

> the key may be that you need to close eclass first, then copy the=20
> template in. Doesn't make sense though as the changes don't occur=20
> until after you "Refresh the Theme".
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> I found a fix for the search using Swish-e. I copied an old version of=20=

> the zlib.dll into C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder 2.5b4\SWISH-E=20
> directory. Now everything works fine, (indexing and searching).=A0 =
What=20
> is up with the Zlib1.dll and zlib-1.dll that are currently in that=20
> directory?
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Have a good weekend,
> =A0
> BJ

[Eclass-users] Re: Problems and a solution!!

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Apr 2, 2004, at 4:45 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Greenstone is not working properly with EClass 2.5b4. Besides the=20
> problem I mentioned yesterday:
> 	1.  	The home.dm macro=A0does not display the Eclass start =
page=A0"Start=20
> Eclass", but rather the standard Greenstone interface.=A0
> 	2.  	The EClass directory is not in the "C:\Program=20
> Files\gsdl\tmp\<publication ID>\gsdl
> 	3.  	Finally, If you search your results, the "pub" directory =
is=20
> double entered, for example
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/pub/New_Page_2.htm=A0, while in the=20=

> past it was
> http://127.0.0.1:1026/eclass/pub/New_Page_2.htm

These are all fixed. However, in fixing the problem I noticed that in=20
the latest version of Greenstone many of the publication scripts have=20
been moved to different folders, and the exported CD folder has changed=20=

as well. So I while I can confirm that Greenstone 2.41 works properly,=20=

I can't be sure that older versions will work.

> =A0
> I had problems with Theme manager, See:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error3.jpg
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> =A0
> This occurred after I copied my template from a previous EClass, bad=20=

> template? The worse thing is that I seem to have corrupted my Default=20=

> (frames) template. While using a Bad template is not Eclass'=20
> fault,=A0people will write bad templates, and EClass needs to=20
> recover...no?

This problem (at least the one I saw in the error log) was also related=20=

to Greenstone. It is also fixed. If you want to fix it in your custom=20
theme, open <EClass Program Dir>\themes\BJ_s.py and replace any=20
instance of "gsdlcollection" with "self.pub.pubid" (I added quotes for=20=

clarity, don't put the quotes!)

> Now, Whenever I click on Default (frames) it gives me a "preparing to=20=

> update E-Class", but nothing happens.
>  If I publish or preview, In the=A0 "main" frame, I get "cannot find=20=

> page". I copied the themes directory over from another installation,=20=

> and that still hasn't fixed the problem. The problem itself seems to=20=

> be isolated to that one eclass. I have since opened other eclasses and=20=

> they update and refresh the theme fine.
> =A0
> <<<<Later>>>
> I tried copying the same template again, and it worked fine. I think=20=

> the key may be that you need to close eclass first, then copy the=20
> template in. Doesn't make sense though as the changes don't occur=20
> until after you "Refresh the Theme".
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> I found a fix for the search using Swish-e. I copied an old version of=20=

> the zlib.dll into C:\Program Files\EClass.Builder 2.5b4\SWISH-E=20
> directory. Now everything works fine, (indexing and searching).=A0 =
What=20
> is up with the Zlib1.dll and zlib-1.dll that are currently in that=20
> directory?

Fixed. I finally figured this out - zlib1.dll and zlib-1.dll are *both*=20=

needed by wvWare to index DOC files. Oddly enough, I simply made a copy=20=

of the file, so these files seem to differ in name only. I added back=20
zlib.dll for SWISH-E (I must have zlib.dll somewhere on my PATH since I=20=

don't get errors) and now everything is back to normal.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] New EClass.Builder 2.5b4 available for download

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Here is another small bug, it occurs when you publish to CD-ROM using the
Greenstone search.

When Greenstone has finished indexing it opens to the default Eclass
Directory. Shouldn't it open to the C:\Program Files\gsdl\tmp\<eclass course
name> directory?

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

[Eclass-users] more bugs

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Bugs:
  1.. This is a very silly bug, but...the EClass page editor has a hard =
time recognizing file extensions with capital letters. For example, it =
would see and use mod1.htm and could see, but not use mod1.HTM.  For =
some reason this is only text.


  2.. Another petty bug, on the quiz page, the question boxes change =
style. For #1 they use radio buttons, for  #2 (square) they use check =
boxes, then back to radio buttons for #3.

  >>>Later<<<
  I think I understand why you did this. If there are multiple "Correct" =
answers, it uses check boxes(#2), if there is only one correct answer it =
uses radio buttons(#1,#3). I think it is probably best to use check =
boxes for all, keep it consistent.


  3.. If you preview or publish a course that has not been search =
enabled, you get this error message:
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error4.jpg=20
  From the errlog.txt:
      There was an unexpected error publishing your course. Details on =
the error message are located in the file: C:\Program =
Files\EClass.Builder 2.5b4\errlog.txt, or on Mac, the error message can =
be found by viewing /Applications/Utilities/Console.app.
      Traceback (most recent call last):
        File "<string>", line 895, in PublishEClass
      OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
  The course then opens fine. Once you publish with search enabled =
(swish-e) it works fine and no error messages.

4. When I try searching with Swish-e, I get this error:
 http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error5.jpg
(Today, I am at the office on WIN XP) Nothing in the Errlog.txt file =
about this.

5. I have not been able to publish to PDF, nothing happens. I have =
uploaded the errlog.txt file, there appears to be something at the end:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt



I will try Greenstone and themes tomorrow.

BJ

[Eclass-users] Re: more bugs

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Apr 7, 2004, at 1:51 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Bugs:
> 	1.  	This is a very silly bug, but...the EClass page editor =
has a=20
> hard time recognizing file extensions with capital letters. For=20
> example, it would see and use mod1.htm and could see, but not=20
> use=A0mod1.HTM.=A0 For some reason this is only text.

Fixed.

> 	2.  	Another petty bug, on the quiz page, the question =
boxes=A0change=20
> style.=A0For=A0#1=A0they use radio buttons, for =A0#2 (square)=A0they =
use check=20
> boxes,=A0then back to radio buttons for #3.
>
> >>>Later<<<
> I think I understand why you did this. If there are multiple "Correct"=20=

> answers, it uses check boxes(#2), if there is only one correct answer=20=

> it uses radio buttons(#1,#3). I think it is probably best to use check=20=

> boxes for all, keep it consistent.

I see the problem, but the different styles serve as a cue to the=20
student to know whether it's a single or multiple answer question.=20
(Although it's true the professor could write "Please select all that=20
apply." for each multiple answer question.) I'd like to know what=20
others think about this. If the sudden change is confusing to the=20
course author, I think the better approach is to add an option=20
specifying whether or not the student can select multiple answers for=20
each question.

Or, what may be the best solution is for me to document this behavior=20
and add a couple screenshots so it doesn't freak anyone else out. ;-)

> 	3.  	If you preview or publish a course that has not been =
search=20
> enabled, you get this error message:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error4.jpg=A0
> From=A0the errlog.txt:

Fixed.

> 4. When I try searching with Swish-e, I get this=A0error:
> =A0http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error5.jpg
> (Today, I am at the office on WIN XP) Nothing in the Errlog.txt file=20=

> about this.

Fixed.

> 5. I have not been able to publish to PDF, nothing happens. I have=20
> uploaded the errlog.txt file, there appears to be something at the=20
> end:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt

And once more... Fixed. I've posted a new binary with all of these=20
fixes at the usual place:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe

> I will try Greenstone and themes tomorrow.

Thanks!

Kevin=

[Eclass-users] Re: more bugs

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

With all the new and different builds of 2.5b4, is it possible to
differentiate them some how? A build number in startup or in the help menu?
People may download and install an earlier version and then forget about it.
I am currently testing this on three machines (currently three versions) and
I know I am going to have problems.

My vote is for all checkboxes, since you can't use radio buttons with
Multiple answers. I think consistency for both instructor and student are
necessary in the interface. Also if the instructor places the term "click
all that apply" in the question and only one applies, it gives part of the
answer away for those who know about web programming.

I know this is probably too late for this version, but would it be possible
to get "new" and "edit" for all of the media (image, audio, video) in the
"Page Editor"? I imagine you could setup the editors in the "System
Preferences". It would be really handy, especially when creating new courses
to create pieces as you go. Maybe eventually, we could have a TALM-Toolkit
version, where it would be pre-configured...just an idea.

Off to work on the latest version...

BJ






William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: more bugs


> Hi BJ,
>
> On Apr 7, 2004, at 1:51 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > Bugs:
> > 1.  This is a very silly bug, but...the EClass page editor has a
> > hard time recognizing file extensions with capital letters. For
> > example, it would see and use mod1.htm and could see, but not
> > use mod1.HTM. For some reason this is only text.
>
> Fixed.
>
> > 2.  Another petty bug, on the quiz page, the question boxes change
> > style. For #1 they use radio buttons, for #2 (square) they use check
> > boxes, then back to radio buttons for #3.
> >
> > >>>Later<<<
> > I think I understand why you did this. If there are multiple "Correct"
> > answers, it uses check boxes(#2), if there is only one correct answer
> > it uses radio buttons(#1,#3). I think it is probably best to use check
> > boxes for all, keep it consistent.
>
> I see the problem, but the different styles serve as a cue to the
> student to know whether it's a single or multiple answer question.
> (Although it's true the professor could write "Please select all that
> apply." for each multiple answer question.) I'd like to know what
> others think about this. If the sudden change is confusing to the
> course author, I think the better approach is to add an option
> specifying whether or not the student can select multiple answers for
> each question.
>
> Or, what may be the best solution is for me to document this behavior
> and add a couple screenshots so it doesn't freak anyone else out. ;-)
>
> > 3.  If you preview or publish a course that has not been search
> > enabled, you get this error message:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error4.jpg
> > From the errlog.txt:
>
> Fixed.
>
> > 4. When I try searching with Swish-e, I get this error:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error5.jpg
> > (Today, I am at the office on WIN XP) Nothing in the Errlog.txt file
> > about this.
>
> Fixed.
>
> > 5. I have not been able to publish to PDF, nothing happens. I have
> > uploaded the errlog.txt file, there appears to be something at the
> > end:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
>
> And once more... Fixed. I've posted a new binary with all of these
> fixes at the usual place:
>
> http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
>
> > I will try Greenstone and themes tomorrow.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kevin
>

[Eclass-users] more bugs with latest version

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I am using the latest version (built last night? 04-07-04) on a Win 2K =
machine.

Problems/bugs:
  1.  After you submit a quiz, nothing happens. Using Checkboxes huh? It =
looks much better.

  2.  When you preview/publish a new course (both search and non =
search), the menu (right frame) and joust menu (right bottom frame) are =
not created. The non-frames theme works fine.

  3. I am getting this error when I search with Swish-e:
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error.jpg
  I fixed the problem by copying Zlib.dll into the ...\EClass =
Projects\<my course>\cgi-bin\ directory.

  4. If I am on the search page (Swish-e, non-frames) and I click on the =
other pages from the JavaScript tree menu. They are not found because =
the path is going to the cgi-bin.
  http://localhost:8000/cgi-bin/New_Page_10.htm

  5. Not a bug, but an observation. When I switch back to frames theme, =
and refresh the theme, menu.htm and menucntrl.htm are created. yea!

  6. When using the Greenstone interface, some media (especially video, =
audio and presentations) and pages took forever to load. I realize there =
is nothing you can do about this, but perhaps a warning to other EClass =
users. Also Greenstone has difficulty using file names that have spaces.

  7. When creating a hotword link to an eclass file, sometimes (vague =
enough for you?) it does not create the link. This is especially the =
case if you insert media into the page editor for the newly created =
hotword. I have thoroughly inspected the source code of the file and I =
see nothing wrong with the word I want to link. I am still working out =
the problem and I will send you more details. on another note, it would =
be nice to be able to link to already existing eclass page and not just =
a new one.
  >>later<< it might just be that one eclass page, I have deleted that =
page and re-used the html file, and it works fine. I will keep an eye on =
it.

  8.  I am still getting the Server/Dr. Watson problems, it may be =
isolated to this computer as I have been crashing a lot lately. No it is =
not Windows but a hardware problem. Hopefully, a new computer is in the =
works.


BJ




William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
To: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand" =
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:05 AM
Subject: [Eclass-users] Re: more bugs


> Hi Kevino,
>=20
> With all the new and different builds of 2.5b4, is it possible to
> differentiate them some how? A build number in startup or in the help =
menu?
> People may download and install an earlier version and then forget =
about it.
> I am currently testing this on three machines (currently three =
versions) and
> I know I am going to have problems.
>=20
> My vote is for all checkboxes, since you can't use radio buttons with
> Multiple answers. I think consistency for both instructor and student =
are
> necessary in the interface. Also if the instructor places the term =
"click
> all that apply" in the question and only one applies, it gives part of =
the
> answer away for those who know about web programming.
>=20
> I know this is probably too late for this version, but would it be =
possible
> to get "new" and "edit" for all of the media (image, audio, video) in =
the
> "Page Editor"? I imagine you could setup the editors in the "System
> Preferences". It would be really handy, especially when creating new =
courses
> to create pieces as you go. Maybe eventually, we could have a =
TALM-Toolkit
> version, where it would be pre-configured...just an idea.
>=20
> Off to work on the latest version...
>=20
> BJ
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: more bugs
>=20
>=20
> > Hi BJ,
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2004, at 1:51 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kevino,
> > >
> > > Bugs:
> > > 1.  This is a very silly bug, but...the EClass page editor has a
> > > hard time recognizing file extensions with capital letters. For
> > > example, it would see and use mod1.htm and could see, but not
> > > use mod1.HTM. For some reason this is only text.
> >
> > Fixed.
> >
> > > 2.  Another petty bug, on the quiz page, the question boxes change
> > > style. For #1 they use radio buttons, for #2 (square) they use =
check
> > > boxes, then back to radio buttons for #3.
> > >
> > > >>>Later<<<
> > > I think I understand why you did this. If there are multiple =
"Correct"
> > > answers, it uses check boxes(#2), if there is only one correct =
answer
> > > it uses radio buttons(#1,#3). I think it is probably best to use =
check
> > > boxes for all, keep it consistent.
> >
> > I see the problem, but the different styles serve as a cue to the
> > student to know whether it's a single or multiple answer question.
> > (Although it's true the professor could write "Please select all =
that
> > apply." for each multiple answer question.) I'd like to know what
> > others think about this. If the sudden change is confusing to the
> > course author, I think the better approach is to add an option
> > specifying whether or not the student can select multiple answers =
for
> > each question.
> >
> > Or, what may be the best solution is for me to document this =
behavior
> > and add a couple screenshots so it doesn't freak anyone else out. =
;-)
> >
> > > 3.  If you preview or publish a course that has not been search
> > > enabled, you get this error message:
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error4.jpg
> > > From the errlog.txt:
> >
> > Fixed.
> >
> > > 4. When I try searching with Swish-e, I get this error:
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error5.jpg
> > > (Today, I am at the office on WIN XP) Nothing in the Errlog.txt =
file
> > > about this.
> >
> > Fixed.
> >
> > > 5. I have not been able to publish to PDF, nothing happens. I have
> > > uploaded the errlog.txt file, there appears to be something at the
> > > end:
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog.txt
> >
> > And once more... Fixed. I've posted a new binary with all of these
> > fixes at the usual place:
> >
> > http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder2.5b4.exe
> >
> > > I will try Greenstone and themes tomorrow.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kevin
> >
>=20
>=20
>=20
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