eclass-users

[Eclass-users] Re: Filenames and EClass and <<more>>

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Thanks for the reminders! I'll respond to the rest later, but for the=20
moment, could you send me your errlog.txt so that I can see if Import=20
File is generating error messages?

Kevin

On Apr 27, 2004, at 4:33 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

[snip]

> I am still no sure my "import file" is working correctly. I used this=20=

> feature to import an html page and all it will show is the "file"=20
> directory contents. I have tried deleting this "page" from my TOC and=20=

> in the editor it is gone, but I preview it, the page is still there.=20=

> If close and re-open the course, there is now a line to this "page",=20=

> but nothing there for me to edit/remove.
> =A0
> <<later>>
> There=A0are bugs with Import file:
> 1. In the "page properties" of the "import file", it is possible to=20
> click "ok" without specifying a name.
> 2=A0=A0It is possible to click "ok" without selecting a file.
> 3. Importing HTML files=A0does not work, often losing the "page name" =
in=20
> the process.
> 4. Sometimes, the file (gif, txt, jpg, avi, doc, pdf) will appear in=20=

> the "preview" window, but once you preview/publish, nothing appears in=20=

> IE. The name is gone and if you click on it, the "file" directory=20
> contents are shown.
> 5. I've noticed a lot of problems come when you select a file outside=20=

> of the "file directory". The file is getting copied in ok, but for=20
> some reason it has problems displaying it. If up go back and select=20
> the file from the "file" directory, it=A0works. (case for #4).
> =A0
> I'll keep working with the import file and see if I can find any other=20=

> patterns. After your last Email, you have convinced me it is a=20
> worthwhile=A0feature of=A0EClass.
> =A0
> Hope this helps,
> =A0
> BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Re: Filenames and EClass and <<more>>

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi all,

The latest version of EClass.Builder is available for download at:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.10.exe

It fixes the following issues:

- File names can now no longer be more than 31 characters in order to=20
resolve bugs with pages not getting created. Also, now when you create=20=

a new page, if you don't specify your own filename, EClass dynamically=20=

updates the filename to match the page name, up to the aforementioned=20
31 characters. You will see what I mean when you change the page name.=20=

;-)

- "Import File" should now be working properly.

- EClass now is more intelligent about page selection. When no page is=20=

selected in the editor window, the Page menu becomes inaccessible and=20
page-related toolbar icons gray out.  It also auto-selects the top page=20=

when you open a new EClass.

- Presentations and search results should now open in new windows.

If I don't hear of bugs in this version from BJ or anyone else in the=20
next couple days, I'll add it to the EClass download page and I'll add=20=

a "Current Issues" note to inform people about potential issues with=20
the EClass server when run from the hard drive. Hopefully

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 27, 2004, at 4:33 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino
> =A0
> <<snip>>
> > How things are done is that the "Project Name" in the Open Project
> > dialog is actually the folder name in the EClass Projects folder.=20
> They
> > get out of sync when one changes the "Course Name" in EClass,=20
> because I
> > do not automatically rename the folder as well. There are a few
> > approaches to fixing this issue, and I was wondering what people
>  > thought about them:
> >
> > 1) Rename the folder.=A0
> > 2) Create a "course" database.
> > 3) Load the Course name into the open project dialog.
> > 4) Leave things as they are. ;-)
> > Please let me know what you all think about these changes!
>
> =A0
>
> I vote for #4. The project name is superfluous to the course name, and=20=

> other options are a bit drastic and/or processor intensive. The latter=20=

> being detrimental to low-end users.
> =A0
>
> =A0
> Recap of recent issues:
> 1. The new version of the EClass is working like a charm, although=20
> there are still Dr. Watson problems with Win2k machines. This only=20
> occurs when running the server from the harddrive. As this is an=20
> "Instructor" only problem and has no other side=A0effects other than =
an=20
> annoying message, I vote adding a few lines to the help file and=20
> calling it good. Thoughts?
> =A0
> =A0
> 2. =46rom an earlier email:
> Sometimes, there is nothing selected in the left frame of the EClass
> Builder, most notably after you re-open a course. However, you are=20
> still
> able to "add a new page"=A0 or "Import a file" using the "Page" menu =
at=20
> the
> top. The new page is then added as a "child" to the course level.=20
> However,
> if you preview/publish it, the new page becomes a "child" of the =
lowest
> level in your course.
>
> My suggestion would be to not allow the user to add a page/import a=20
> file
> until something is selected in the Left Frame.
> =A0
>
>
> =A0
> 3. Presentations are still opening in the main window
> =A0
> =A0
> 4. Suggestion:
> Would it be possible to open "search results" in a new window?=20
> Granted, I have been trying things most people would not do, but if=20
> you run into a page that has a loop or redirect it is next to=20
> impossible to get back to the main Eclass window. Also, some pages=20
> take forever to load in the main window, but are lightening fast if=20
> opened in a new window.
> For example: I included "IndexDir ./present" to my swishe.conf file to=20=

> index my html presentations. If it finds one of the "notes pages" or=20=

> frames=A0it creates a loop that you can't get out of. Also the "notes=20=

> pages" take forever to load in the main window.
> =A0
> =A0
> 5. Suggestion:
> In the "page properties"=A0 of the"import file" window, the text area=20=

> for "page content" is grayed out. It would be more obvious if the=20
> space was white.=A0 Still a problem in 2.5.4.9
> =A0
> I am still no sure my "import file" is working correctly. I used this=20=

> feature to import an html page and all it will show is the "file"=20
> directory contents. I have tried deleting this "page" from my TOC and=20=

> in the editor it is gone, but I preview it, the page is still there.=20=

> If close and re-open the course, there is now a line to this "page",=20=

> but nothing there for me to edit/remove.
> =A0
> <<later>>
> There=A0are bugs with Import file:
> 1. In the "page properties" of the "import file", it is possible to=20
> click "ok" without specifying a name.
> 2=A0=A0It is possible to click "ok" without selecting a file.
> 3. Importing HTML files=A0does not work, often losing the "page name" =
in=20
> the process.
> 4. Sometimes, the file (gif, txt, jpg, avi, doc, pdf) will appear in=20=

> the "preview" window, but once you preview/publish, nothing appears in=20=

> IE. The name is gone and if you click on it, the "file" directory=20
> contents are shown.
> 5. I've noticed a lot of problems come when you select a file outside=20=

> of the "file directory". The file is getting copied in ok, but for=20
> some reason it has problems displaying it. If up go back and select=20
> the file from the "file" directory, it=A0works. (case for #4).
> =A0
> I'll keep working with the import file and see if I can find any other=20=

> patterns. After your last Email, you have convinced me it is a=20
> worthwhile=A0feature of=A0EClass.
> =A0
> Hope this helps,
> =A0
> BJ

[Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Bug:
1. I am not able to create a new course in the newest version of EClass. I
have tried going through the opening window and the file menu, I get the
"New
Project Window", I type in a name, and Click "ok" and nothing happens. Tried
this both on a win98 and 2K machine.

2. Import file still can't use htm/html, but at least we are not losing the
"Page". All other files seem to be working fine in file import.

3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a course. I
see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. The
problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an item to
the course level. However, when published or when the course is re-opened it
is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I mean.

You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course preview,
this causes even more problems.
Check out what happened to my course page:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/

Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can get you a
more detailed explanation.

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] Re: Filenames and EClass and <<more>>


> Hi all,
>
> The latest version of EClass.Builder is available for download at:
>
> http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.10.exe
>
> It fixes the following issues:
>
> - File names can now no longer be more than 31 characters in order to
> resolve bugs with pages not getting created. Also, now when you create
> a new page, if you don't specify your own filename, EClass dynamically
> updates the filename to match the page name, up to the aforementioned
> 31 characters. You will see what I mean when you change the page name.
> ;-)
>
> - "Import File" should now be working properly.
>
> - EClass now is more intelligent about page selection. When no page is
> selected in the editor window, the Page menu becomes inaccessible and
> page-related toolbar icons gray out.  It also auto-selects the top page
> when you open a new EClass.
>
> - Presentations and search results should now open in new windows.
>
> If I don't hear of bugs in this version from BJ or anyone else in the
> next couple days, I'll add it to the EClass download page and I'll add
> a "Current Issues" note to inform people about potential issues with
> the EClass server when run from the hard drive. Hopefully
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
> On Apr 27, 2004, at 4:33 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino
> >
> > <<snip>>
> > > How things are done is that the "Project Name" in the Open Project
> > > dialog is actually the folder name in the EClass Projects folder.
> > They
> > > get out of sync when one changes the "Course Name" in EClass,
> > because I
> > > do not automatically rename the folder as well. There are a few
> > > approaches to fixing this issue, and I was wondering what people
> >  > thought about them:
> > >
> > > 1) Rename the folder.
> > > 2) Create a "course" database.
> > > 3) Load the Course name into the open project dialog.
> > > 4) Leave things as they are. ;-)
> > > Please let me know what you all think about these changes!
> >
> >
> >
> > I vote for #4. The project name is superfluous to the course name, and
> > other options are a bit drastic and/or processor intensive. The latter
> > being detrimental to low-end users.
> >
> >
> >
> > Recap of recent issues:
> > 1. The new version of the EClass is working like a charm, although
> > there are still Dr. Watson problems with Win2k machines. This only
> > occurs when running the server from the harddrive. As this is an
> > "Instructor" only problem and has no other side effects other than an
> > annoying message, I vote adding a few lines to the help file and
> > calling it good. Thoughts?
> >
> >
> > 2. From an earlier email:
> > Sometimes, there is nothing selected in the left frame of the EClass
> > Builder, most notably after you re-open a course. However, you are
> > still
> > able to "add a new page" or "Import a file" using the "Page" menu at
> > the
> > top. The new page is then added as a "child" to the course level.
> > However,
> > if you preview/publish it, the new page becomes a "child" of the lowest
> > level in your course.
> >
> > My suggestion would be to not allow the user to add a page/import a
> > file
> > until something is selected in the Left Frame.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. Presentations are still opening in the main window
> >
> >
> > 4. Suggestion:
> > Would it be possible to open "search results" in a new window?
> > Granted, I have been trying things most people would not do, but if
> > you run into a page that has a loop or redirect it is next to
> > impossible to get back to the main Eclass window. Also, some pages
> > take forever to load in the main window, but are lightening fast if
> > opened in a new window.
> > For example: I included "IndexDir ./present" to my swishe.conf file to
> > index my html presentations. If it finds one of the "notes pages" or
> > frames it creates a loop that you can't get out of. Also the "notes
> > pages" take forever to load in the main window.
> >
> >
> > 5. Suggestion:
> > In the "page properties" of the"import file" window, the text area
> > for "page content" is grayed out. It would be more obvious if the
> > space was white. Still a problem in 2.5.4.9
> >
> > I am still no sure my "import file" is working correctly. I used this
> > feature to import an html page and all it will show is the "file"
> > directory contents. I have tried deleting this "page" from my TOC and
> > in the editor it is gone, but I preview it, the page is still there.
> > If close and re-open the course, there is now a line to this "page",
> > but nothing there for me to edit/remove.
> >
> > <<later>>
> > There are bugs with Import file:
> > 1. In the "page properties" of the "import file", it is possible to
> > click "ok" without specifying a name.
> > 2 It is possible to click "ok" without selecting a file.
> > 3. Importing HTML files does not work, often losing the "page name" in
> > the process.
> > 4. Sometimes, the file (gif, txt, jpg, avi, doc, pdf) will appear in
> > the "preview" window, but once you preview/publish, nothing appears in
> > IE. The name is gone and if you click on it, the "file" directory
> > contents are shown.
> > 5. I've noticed a lot of problems come when you select a file outside
> > of the "file directory". The file is getting copied in ok, but for
> > some reason it has problems displaying it. If up go back and select
> > the file from the "file" directory, it works. (case for #4).
> >
> > I'll keep working with the import file and see if I can find any other
> > patterns. After your last Email, you have convinced me it is a
> > worthwhile feature of EClass.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > BJ
>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

<<snip>>

> 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
> see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. The
> problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an =
item to
> the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
> is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I =
mean.
>=20
> You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course =
preview,
> this causes even more problems.
> Check out what happened to my course page:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
>=20
> Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can get =
you a
> more detailed explanation.

The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray" =
selected item, and not always the newly created item. For instance if =
you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the =
correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See the =
above hyperlinked course.

Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a problem =
when the item is "blue" selected.



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-------

New Bugs:

1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the =
URL of Parquesoft.
http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
Wild World Wide Web?


Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

BJ

[Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Kevino,


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=20
Suggestion:

This is an interface suggestion probably to be implemented for the next =
version.

If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still =
available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are still =
available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items are not =
available until a file (or in this case a course) is open. Too picky?


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Bug:

In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have not =
typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page, you =
can't even reopen the quiz page and all you can do is "remove" the page =
from the outline.



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-------

 More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:

This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray" selected =
course page.
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/

The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the =
course page.

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: BJ Cameron=20
  To: Kevin Ollivier=20
  Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one


  Hi Kevino,

  <<snip>>

  > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
  > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. =
The
  > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an =
item to
  > the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
  > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I =
mean.
  >=20
  > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course =
preview,
  > this causes even more problems.
  > Check out what happened to my course page:
  > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
  >=20
  > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can =
get you a
  > more detailed explanation.

  The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray" =
selected item, and not always the newly created item. For instance if =
you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the =
correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See the =
above hyperlinked course.

  Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a =
problem when the item is "blue" selected.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----

  New Bugs:

  1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the =
URL of Parquesoft.
  http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
  Wild World Wide Web?


  Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

  BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ and all,

All the bugs you sent in this morning should be fixed, including the=20
Quiz bug and the menu items bug. The new version is available from:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.11.exe

Let me know if you're still seeing some of these issues!

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 29, 2004, at 10:21 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Kevino,
> =A0
>  =A0
> Suggestion:
> =A0
> This is an interface=A0suggestion probably to be implemented=A0for=A0the=
=20
> next version.
> =A0
> If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still=20
> available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are=20
> still available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items=20=

> are not available until a file (or in this case a course)=A0is open. =
Too=20
> picky?
> =A0
> =A0
> Bug:
> =A0
> In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have=20
> not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page,=20=

> you can't even reopen the quiz page=A0and all you can do is "remove" =
the=20
> page from the outline.
> =A0
> =A0
>
> =A0More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:
> =A0
> This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray"=20
> selected=A0course page.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/
> =A0
> The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the=20=

> course page.
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:  BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one
>
> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> <<snip>>
>
> > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a=20
> course. I
> > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item.=20=

> The
> > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an=20=

> item to
> > the course level. However, when published or when the course is=20
> re-opened it
> > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I=20=

> mean.
> >
>  > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course=20=

> preview,
> > this causes even more problems.
> > Check out what happened to my course page:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
> >
> > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can=20
> get you a
> > more detailed explanation.
>
> The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray"=20=

> selected=A0item, and not always the newly created item.=A0For instance =
if=20
> you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the=20
> correct place, but it also=A0changes the Course page display. See the=20=

> above hyperlinked course.
> =A0
> Why the difference between gray and blue? I=A0never seem to have a=20
> problem when the item is "blue" selected.
> =A0
> =A0
> New Bugs:
> =A0
> 1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the=20=

> URL of Parquesoft.
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> Wild World Wide Web?
> =A0
> =A0
> Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0

[Eclass-users] bugs and praise

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Sorry this email was in the works when you sent the latest version.

Bug:

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Publishing to PDF does not work. After publishing, you get a "Complete" =
message and asking if you want to preview it. If you click "Yes" nothing =
happens and if you go looking for it, there is no PDF file in the course =
directory.

I have tried this with a course that I had previously had success =
publishing to pdf and it still doesn't work

Still happening in v2.5.4.11

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Bugs in v25b4.11

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Child Pages don't appear in the preview window even when there is =
material; Eclass pages, quiz, and web pages.File imports work fine. The =
files aren't even in the pub directory.

I closed and re-open Eclass and everything published fine.

I have posted the Errlog.txt to:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt

This is seems to happen everytime you create a new course or add new =
material to an existing course. If you close the course, and then =
re-open and re-open the page that is having problems and click "ok" then =
the material appears.

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There is still an extra w in the Parquesoft URL in the about Help menu, =
about EClass. =20
http://wwww.parquesoft.com/


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Praise:

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This is the first time I had used the Link checker, it works great. It =
would be even cooler if you could open the offending page, but that is =
probably asking way too much.

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The whole adding and importing files to "gray" selected pages seems to =
be fixed!!

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The problems with Import files seems to be fixed.

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I'll keep looking more this afternoon.

Best,

BJ


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: BJ Cameron=20
  To: Kevin Ollivier=20
  Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:21 PM
  Subject: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info


  Kevino,


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----
  =20
  Suggestion:

  This is an interface suggestion probably to be implemented for the =
next version.

  If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still =
available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are still =
available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items are not =
available until a file (or in this case a course) is open. Too picky?


-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----


  Bug:

  In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have =
not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page, =
you can't even reopen the quiz page and all you can do is "remove" the =
page from the outline.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-----

   More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:

  This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray" selected =
course page.
  http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/

  The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the =
course page.

  BJ


  William 'BJ' Cameron
  Payson Center
  Tulane University
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: BJ Cameron=20
    To: Kevin Ollivier=20
    Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ; =
Hju...@cs...=20
    Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new =
one


    Hi Kevino,

    <<snip>>

    > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a =
course. I
    > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item. =
The
    > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as =
an item to
    > the course level. However, when published or when the course is =
re-opened it
    > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what =
I mean.
    >=20
    > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the =
course preview,
    > this causes even more problems.
    > Check out what happened to my course page:
    > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
    >=20
    > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can =
get you a
    > more detailed explanation.

    The course page changes when something else has been added to a =
"gray" selected item, and not always the newly created item. For =
instance if you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it =
in the correct place, but it also changes the Course page display. See =
the above hyperlinked course.

    Why the difference between gray and blue? I never seem to have a =
problem when the item is "blue" selected.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---

    New Bugs:

    1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in =
the URL of Parquesoft.
    http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
    Wild World Wide Web?


    Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,

    BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] bugs and praise

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Thanks, not sure how I missed these. They're fixed, and I've uploaded a=20=

new version:

http://www.eclass.net/Downloads/eclass-builder-2.5.4.12.exe

Also, I think I may have realized what the problem was with the server=20=

on the hard drive. Do you have a "karrigell.ini" file in the EClass=20
root directory? Try deleting that and see if the server keeps giving=20
you problems.

Thanks,

Kevin

On Apr 29, 2004, at 12:57 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Sorry this email was in the works when you sent the latest version.
> =A0
> Bug:
> Publishing to PDF does not work. After publishing, you get a=20
> "Complete" message and asking if=A0you want to preview it. If you=20
> click=A0"Yes" nothing happens and if you go looking for it, there is =
no=20
> PDF file in the course directory.
> =A0
> I have tried this with a course that I had previously had success=20
> publishing to pdf and it still doesn't work
> =A0
> Still happening in v2.5.4.11
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Bugs in v25b4.11
> Child Pages don't appear in the preview window even when there is=20
> material; Eclass pages, quiz, and web pages.File imports work fine.=20
> The files aren't even in the pub directory.
> =A0
> I closed and re-open Eclass and everything published fine.
> =A0
> I have posted the Errlog.txt to:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
> =A0
> This is seems to happen everytime you create a new course or add new=20=

> material to an existing course. If you close the course, and then=20
> re-open and re-open the page that is having problems and click "ok"=20
> then the material appears.
> =A0
> There is still an extra w in the=A0Parquesoft URL=A0in the about Help=20=

> menu, about EClass.=A0=A0
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> =A0
> Praise:
> This is the first time I had used the Link checker, it works great. It=20=

> would be even cooler if you could open the offending page, but that is=20=

> probably asking way too much.
> The whole adding and importing files to "gray" selected pages seems to=20=

> be fixed!!
> The problems with Import files seems to be fixed.
> =A0
> I'll keep looking more this afternoon.
> =A0
> Best,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From:  BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:21 PM
> Subject: [Eclass-users] suggestion, bug and more info
>
> Kevino,
> =A0
>  =A0
> Suggestion:
> =A0
> This is an interface=A0suggestion probably to be implemented=A0for=A0the=
=20
> next version.
> =A0
> If you do not have a course open, many of the menu items are still=20
> available (not "grayed" out), they don't do anything, but they are=20
> still available. If you look at most commercial interfaces, most items=20=

> are not available until a file (or in this case a course)=A0is open. =
Too=20
> picky?
> =A0
>
> =A0
> Bug:
> =A0
> In the Quiz page, It is possible to click "OK" even though you have=20
> not typed in the question. If you click "ok" on the Quiz Editor page,=20=

> you can't even reopen the quiz page=A0and all you can do is "remove" =
the=20
> page from the outline.
> =A0
> =A0
>
> =A0More info on adding to a "gray" selected page:
> =A0
> This is what happened when I imported a file to the "gray"=20
> selected=A0course page.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-25bb4-10/
> =A0
> The imported file is added to a non-existent "module" instead of the=20=

> course page.
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: BJ Cameron
> To: Kevin Ollivier
> Cc: ecl...@li... ; Bill Bertrand ;=20
> Hju...@cs...
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] bugs newest version 2.5.4.10 and a new one
>
> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> <<snip>>
>
> > 3. We still have a problem when adding a new page when opening a=20
> course. I
> > see that you have made the "course page" the "selected" gray item.=20=

> The
> > problem is when you add a new page, in the outline, it adds it as an=20=

> item to
> > the course level. However, when published or when the course is=20
> re-opened it
> > is actually a child of the last item. Try it and you will see what I=20=

> mean.
> >
> > You can also "acheive" the gray selection by clicking on the course=20=

> preview,
> > this causes even more problems.
> > Check out what happened to my course page:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo025b4-10/
> >
> > Not sure what is going, I will play more with it and see if I can=20
> get you a
> > more detailed explanation.
>
> The course page changes when something else has been added to a "gray"=20=

> selected=A0item, and not always the newly created item.=A0For instance =
if=20
> you add an item when "module2" is gray selected, it adds it in the=20
> correct place, but it also=A0changes the Course page display. See the=20=

> above hyperlinked course.
> =A0
> Why the difference between gray and blue? I=A0never seem to have a=20
> problem when the item is "blue" selected.
> =A0
> =A0
> New Bugs:
> =A0
> 1. In the about Help menu, about EClass, there is an extra "w" in the=20=

> URL of Parquesoft.
> http://wwww.parquesoft.com/
> Wild World Wide Web?
> =A0
> =A0
> Still looking and sorry for the barrage of emails,
> =A0
> BJ
> =A0

[Eclass-users] media Bug

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

Media Bug:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

If you have a RealMedia video clip and a RealMedia audio clip in the =
page editor, you get two sets of controls (like you would expect) in the =
page. However, they both play the same media clip and the other gets =
lost. This does not happen with WMP and combination of WMP, Real, and =
QuickTime.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Idiosyncrasy with Splash window

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

I have not been able to recreate the "missing Splash window". I must =
have clicked on "don't show this dialog at startup" and didn't realize =
it.

<<LATER>>
I have been able to re-create the problem, it occurs when you check and =
un-check the dialog box "don't show this dialog at startup". For some =
reason, it doesn't register that you un-checked it. Re-installing =
doesn't bring back the splash window.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------


Interface:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------

At 16 bit (high color) 800x600 resolution (even more so at 640x80), I am =
seeing some white spots around the "new course" button. I imagine it was =
suppose to be transparent? Is there an ideal resolution for EClass?

Am I being too picky?=20

-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------



I am still looking, but we are getting very close


William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University

Re: [Eclass-users] media Bug

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Am currently working on fixing some more developer-related issues with=20=

EClass. Over the past 8-12 months, EClass has started incorporating=20
more and more functionality, some from 3rd parties, and I need to make=20=

this a bit easier to manage so that Linux users particularly can build=20=

EClass without too much trouble. It will also make it easier for me to=20=

manage, and help me to put Mac support back on the map again. ;-) This=20=

will take a couple days, probably finishing around Wednesday-Thursday.=20=

At that point, I will come back to these issues. I plan on having a new=20=

release ready for Friday. I want to get this release solid so that I=20
can start promoting it, and it's important that Linux has some basic=20
support at least, because it's likely that any volunteers to help will=20=

come from that platform.

And, BTW, nothing is too picky. It is always just the tradeoff between=20=

how much work it will be to fix and how serious the problem is.=20
Particularly if I know what the problem is and the fix is relatively=20
quick, I can (and will) take care of it right away. =46rom your issues=20=

below, the only one that may need some work to fix is the Real Media=20
bug. I have a feeling it is related to the "media controller" property=20=

that RM has. These need to be the same between video and audio so that=20=

they are "synched", but when there is a separate audio file, there=20
needs to be a "separate" audio controller. So that means having EClass=20=

determine if the audio belongs to a video, or is separate.

Anyways, I should have everything ready in the next few days. Thanks=20
again for all your help! =3D)

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 3, 2004, at 10:28 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> Media Bug:
>
> If you have a RealMedia video clip and a RealMedia audio clip in the=20=

> page editor, you get two sets of controls (like you would expect) in=20=

> the page.=A0However, they both play the=A0same media clip and the =
other=20
> gets lost. This does not happen with WMP and combination of WMP, Real,=20=

> and QuickTime.
> =A0
> Idiosyncrasy with Splash window
>
>
> I have not been able to recreate the "missing=A0Splash=A0window". I =
must=20
> have clicked on "don't show this dialog at startup" and didn't realize=20=

> it.
> =A0
> <<LATER>>
> I have been able to re-create the problem, it occurs when you check=20
> and un-check the dialog box "don't show this dialog at startup". For=20=

> some reason, it doesn't register that you un-checked it. Re-installing=20=

> doesn't bring back the splash window.
> =A0
> Interface:
> At 16 bit (high color) 800x600 resolution (even more so at 640x80),=A0I=20=

> am seeing some white spots around the "new course" button. I imagine=20=

> it was suppose to be transparent? Is there an ideal resolution for=20
> EClass?
> =A0
> Am I being too picky?=A0
> =A0
> =A0
> I am still looking, but we are getting very close
> =A0
> =A0
> William 'BJ' Cameron
> Payson Center
> Tulane University

[Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I have spent several days with the latest version (2-5-4-15) and have found
very little in the way of bugs.

Problems:
1. One problem I have seen so far was in the "page editor", in the "text"
window, you have doc and rtf listed as options, while in reality you can't
use them. I understand this is to be impleted in the future with OO support.
However, until that happens, I would remove them to avoid confusion. IMHO
2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message saying
"finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is there. I assume
the entire directory would be uploaded.
3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file for file
import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double click on
it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no name and
no properties when I preview the course.  I will need to play with this one
some more as I am having problems replicating it.


Kudos:
1. Nice to see that you got the Real Video and Read Audio working on the
same page.
2. Great to see the PDF support is back up and running
3. The Search.py is working again in XP.

Tomorrow, I will test it on a Win2k machine, but I think we are getting
close.

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

Could you send a link to the errlog.txt for the latest version? Except 
for #1 of course, I'm not seeing any of these on my XP machine or a 
"clean" Win2K machine.

Thanks,

Kevin

On May 26, 2004, at 1:10 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I have spent several days with the latest version (2-5-4-15) and have 
> found
> very little in the way of bugs.
>
> Problems:
> 1. One problem I have seen so far was in the "page editor", in the 
> "text"
> window, you have doc and rtf listed as options, while in reality you 
> can't
> use them. I understand this is to be impleted in the future with OO 
> support.
> However, until that happens, I would remove them to avoid confusion. 
> IMHO
> 2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message saying
> "finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is there. I 
> assume
> the entire directory would be uploaded.
> 3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file for 
> file
> import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double 
> click on
> it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
> 4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no name 
> and
> no properties when I preview the course.  I will need to play with 
> this one
> some more as I am having problems replicating it.
>
>
> Kudos:
> 1. Nice to see that you got the Real Video and Read Audio working on 
> the
> same page.
> 2. Great to see the PDF support is back up and running
> 3. The Search.py is working again in XP.
>
> Tomorrow, I will test it on a Win2k machine, but I think we are getting
> close.
>
> BJ
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,
=20
> Could you send a link to the errlog.txt for the latest version? Except =

> for #1 of course, I'm not seeing any of these on my XP machine or a=20
> "clean" Win2K machine.

Errlog.txt from yesterday:

http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt

I am working on a different XP Machine today and some of the problems =
are fixed, others not.

> > 2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message =
saying
> > "finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is there. =
I=20
> > assume
> > the entire directory would be uploaded.

I am still having the same results.

> > 3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file =
for=20
> > file
> > import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double=20
> > click on
> > it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.

Importing an HTML file works fine on this machine

> > 4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no =
name=20
> > and
> > no properties when I preview the course.  I will need to play with=20
> > this one
> > some more as I am having problems replicating it.

I am still having problems replicating this one, I think it has more to =
do with a cancelled Quiz than with importing a file.

Also, is it possible to setup "imported files" to always open in a New =
Window? Acrobat 6 sometimes causes problems when trying to open the =
document within  the Eclass main frame, especially so when using the =
editor.

Today's errlog.txt
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog5.txt

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On May 27, 2004, at 1:00 PM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> > Could you send a link to the errlog.txt for the latest version?=20
> Except
> > for #1 of course, I'm not seeing any of these on my XP machine or a
> > "clean" Win2K machine.
> Errlog.txt from yesterday:
> =A0
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog4.txt
> =A0
>
> I am working on a different XP Machine today and some of the problems=20=

> are fixed, others not.
> =A0
> > > 2. "Publish to web" doesn't seem to be working. I get a message=20
> saying
> > > "finished uploading", but when I check the server nothing is=20
> there. I
> > > assume
> > > the entire directory would be uploaded.
> I am still having the same results.

I think I see what is going on, although there are two separate issues.=20=

One is when you try to upload to /staff/bjcameron it is for some reason=20=

not allowing the folders to be created. Do you mind if I try to upload=20=

to this directory myself?

The other is an issue where no directory is entered into the Directory=20=

textbox. Where were you uploading to when you wanted to upload to the=20
root directory?

> > > 3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html file=20=

> for
> > > file
> > > import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can double
> > > click on
> > > it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
> Importing an HTML file works fine on this machine

On your home machine, does the page not appear in both the Mozilla and=20=

IE preview windows, or is it IE only?

>
> > > 4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with no=20=

> name
> > > and
> > > no properties when I preview the course.=A0 I will need to play =
with
> > > this one
> > > some more as I am having problems replicating it.
> =A0
> I am still having problems replicating this one, I think it has more=20=

> to do with a cancelled Quiz than with importing a file.

OK, I'll test quizzes some more to see if I can track this down too.

> =A0
> Also, is it possible to setup "imported files" to always open in a New=20=

> Window? Acrobat 6 sometimes causes problems when trying to open the=20
> document within=A0 the Eclass main frame, especially so when using the=20=

> editor.

I'm not sure, but it should be possible. Let me check into this.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

> I think I see what is going on, although there are two separate =
issues.=20
> One is when you try to upload to /staff/bjcameron it is for some =
reason=20
> not allowing the folders to be created. Do you mind if I try to upload =

> to this directory myself?

No, please feel to upload, I have also tried uploading to CERTI and =
SMART

>=20
> The other is an issue where no directory is entered into the Directory =

> textbox. Where were you uploading to when you wanted to upload to the=20
> root directory?

I tried uploading to the root directory because every time I tried to =
upload to specific directories, it failed

> > > > 3. Not sure why you would want to, but you can't use an html =
file=20
> > for
> > > > file
> > > > import. The page comes up blank. The funny thing is you can =
double
> > > > click on
> > > > it in the TOC and it opens in the web page editor.
> > Importing an HTML file works fine on this machine
>=20
> On your home machine, does the page not appear in both the Mozilla and =

> IE preview windows, or is it IE only?

On my home machine, this problem is not occurring. I will check it on =
the office computer when I go in next Wednesday.

> > > > 4. After I imported a pdf file, I get an additional child with =
no=20
> > name
> > > > and
> > > > no properties when I preview the course. I will need to play =
with
> > > > this one
> > > > some more as I am having problems replicating it.
> >=20
> > I am still having problems replicating this one, I think it has more =

> > to do with a cancelled Quiz than with importing a file.
>=20
> OK, I'll test quizzes some more to see if I can track this down too.
>=20
> >=20
> > Also, is it possible to setup "imported files" to always open in a =
New=20
> > Window? Acrobat 6 sometimes causes problems when trying to open the=20
> > document within the Eclass main frame, especially so when using the=20
> > editor.
>=20
> I'm not sure, but it should be possible. Let me check into this.

Thanks,
BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On May 28, 2004, at 3:58 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
> =A0
> > I think I see what is going on, although there are two separate=20
> issues.
> > One is when you try to upload to /staff/bjcameron it is for some=20
> reason
> > not allowing the folders to be created. Do you mind if I try to=20
> upload
> > to this directory myself?
> No, please feel to upload, I have also tried uploading to CERTI and=20
> SMART

I've been testing and I was able to upload to=20
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/eclass_test successfully. (I=20
used your account to ensure there weren't permissions issues.) Have you=20=

tried clicking on "Use Passive FTP" before uploading to see if that=20
helps?

Also, I should note that EClass does not create its own folder on the=20
server, so you should specify the folder name you want inside the=20
"Directory" textbox. i.e., when I uploaded, I put=20
/staff/bjcameron/eclass_text in the Directory box.

> >
> > The other is an issue where no directory is entered into the=20
> Directory
> > textbox. Where were you uploading to when you wanted to upload to =
the
> > root directory?
> =A0
> I tried uploading to the root directory because every time I tried to=20=

> upload to specific directories, it failed

There was a bug with uploading to the root directory without specifying=20=

the Directory as "/", but that part should be fixed.

Thanks,

Kevin=

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

I think I have tried every possible combination (incl passive ftp) to get
files uploaded using the EClass Builder, so far without any luck

If I try to upload to a specific folder,
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/screencapture.jpg
 I get the following error message.
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error12.jpg.
Still no files on the server.

Question--Do you get a warning message if you are writing over files?


Cancelled quiz output.
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-2-5-4-15g/
This error/problem seems to happen the first time you use EClass after a
re-boot. All subsequent eclasses work fine with cancelled quizes.

BJ

William 'BJ' Cameron
Payson Center
Tulane University
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
<web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass


> Hi BJ,
>
> On May 28, 2004, at 3:58 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevino,
> >
> > > I think I see what is going on, although there are two separate
> > issues.
> > > One is when you try to upload to /staff/bjcameron it is for some
> > reason
> > > not allowing the folders to be created. Do you mind if I try to
> > upload
> > > to this directory myself?
> > No, please feel to upload, I have also tried uploading to CERTI and
> > SMART
>
> I've been testing and I was able to upload to
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/eclass_test successfully. (I
> used your account to ensure there weren't permissions issues.) Have you
> tried clicking on "Use Passive FTP" before uploading to see if that
> helps?
>
> Also, I should note that EClass does not create its own folder on the
> server, so you should specify the folder name you want inside the
> "Directory" textbox. i.e., when I uploaded, I put
> /staff/bjcameron/eclass_text in the Directory box.
>
> > >
> > > The other is an issue where no directory is entered into the
> > Directory
> > > textbox. Where were you uploading to when you wanted to upload to the
> > > root directory?
> >
> > I tried uploading to the root directory because every time I tried to
> > upload to specific directories, it failed
>
> There was a bug with uploading to the root directory without specifying
> the Directory as "/", but that part should be fixed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

On Jun 1, 2004, at 3:51 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> I think I have tried every possible combination (incl passive ftp) to 
> get
> files uploaded using the EClass Builder, so far without any luck
>
> If I try to upload to a specific folder,
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/screencapture.jpg
>  I get the following error message.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error12.jpg.

Does this error message occur before or when the first file is 
uploaded? That would suggest an error opening the data connection...

Sorry to ask this again, but could you upload the errlog.txt after you 
got this message? There should be an error message this time.

> Still no files on the server.
>
> Question--Do you get a warning message if you are writing over files?

No, you don't, currently. Since if you edit the files outside of 
EClass, you won't want to re-upload them using EClass anyways. But 
later on I will add a warning, when EClass has FTP synchronization or 
multi-user editing capabilities.

>
> Cancelled quiz output.
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-2-5-4-15g/
> This error/problem seems to happen the first time you use EClass after 
> a
> re-boot. All subsequent eclasses work fine with cancelled quizes.

Is this the first quiz created anywhere in the EClass, or a quiz 
created as the first page of an EClass?

Thanks,

Kevin

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Ollivier" <ke...@tu...>
> To: "BJ Cameron" <ca...@tu...>
> Cc: <ecl...@li...>; "Bill Bertrand"
> <web...@cs...>; <Hju...@cs...>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass
>
>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> On May 28, 2004, at 3:58 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kevino,
>>>
>>>> I think I see what is going on, although there are two separate
>>> issues.
>>>> One is when you try to upload to /staff/bjcameron it is for some
>>> reason
>>>> not allowing the folders to be created. Do you mind if I try to
>>> upload
>>>> to this directory myself?
>>> No, please feel to upload, I have also tried uploading to CERTI and
>>> SMART
>>
>> I've been testing and I was able to upload to
>> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/eclass_test successfully. (I
>> used your account to ensure there weren't permissions issues.) Have 
>> you
>> tried clicking on "Use Passive FTP" before uploading to see if that
>> helps?
>>
>> Also, I should note that EClass does not create its own folder on the
>> server, so you should specify the folder name you want inside the
>> "Directory" textbox. i.e., when I uploaded, I put
>> /staff/bjcameron/eclass_text in the Directory box.
>>
>>>>
>>>> The other is an issue where no directory is entered into the
>>> Directory
>>>> textbox. Where were you uploading to when you wanted to upload to 
>>>> the
>>>> root directory?
>>>
>>> I tried uploading to the root directory because every time I tried to
>>> upload to specific directories, it failed
>>
>> There was a bug with uploading to the root directory without 
>> specifying
>> the Directory as "/", but that part should be fixed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

> > I think I have tried every possible combination (incl passive ftp) =
to=20
> > get
> > files uploaded using the EClass Builder, so far without any luck
> >
> > If I try to upload to a specific folder,
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/screencapture.jpg
> >  I get the following error message.
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error12.jpg.
>=20
> Does this error message occur before or when the first file is=20
> uploaded? That would suggest an error opening the data connection...

I don't think any files are being uploaded, so I think it is the data =
connection issue.

=20
> Sorry to ask this again, but could you upload the errlog.txt after you =

> got this message? There should be an error message this time.

Not a problem. I cleared the errlog.txt and then tried to upload files. =
Same old problem, you can find the errlog here:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog6.txt=20


> > Cancelled quiz output.
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-2-5-4-15g/=20
> > This error/problem seems to happen the first time you use EClass =
after=20
> > a
> > re-boot. All subsequent eclasses work fine with cancelled quizes.
>=20
> Is this the first quiz created anywhere in the EClass, or a quiz=20
> created as the first page of an EClass?

This was the first quiz created in that eclass and the first page (not =
including the inital course page, which was an eclass page). I am having =
a real hard time replicating this problem.


Thanks,

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Jun 2, 2004, at 10:31 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> Hi Kevino,
>
> > > I think I have tried every possible combination (incl passive ftp)=20=

> to
> > > get
> > > files uploaded using the EClass Builder, so far without any luck
> > >
> > > If I try to upload to a specific folder,
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/screencapture.jpg
> > >=A0 I get the following error message.
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error12.jpg.
> >
> > Does this error message occur before or when the first file is
> > uploaded? That would suggest an error opening the data connection...
>
> I don't think any files are being uploaded, so I think it is the data=20=

> connection issue.
>
> =A0
> > Sorry to ask this again, but could you upload the errlog.txt after=20=

> you
> > got this message? There should be an error message this time.
>
> Not a problem. I cleared the errlog.txt and then tried to upload=20
> files. Same old problem, you can find the errlog here:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog6.txt

Please try it again turning off Passive FTP and let me know what kind=20
of error you get. This error log shows that the connection to the=20
server was refused, which will happen if you're connecting via Passive=20=

FTP and your router, etc. doesn't support connecting via Passive FTP.=20
(I should handle this as a separate error though...)

>
> > > Cancelled quiz output.
> > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-2-5-4-15g/
>  > > This error/problem seems to happen the first time you use EClass=20=

> after
> > > a
> > > re-boot. All subsequent eclasses work fine with cancelled quizes.
> >
> > Is this the first quiz created anywhere in the EClass, or a quiz
> > created as the first page of an EClass?
>
> This was the first quiz created in that eclass and the first page (not=20=

> including the inital course page, which was an eclass page). I am=20
> having a real hard time replicating this problem.

OK, I'll keep looking through the code, but I haven't seen this problem=20=

yet.

Thanks,

Kevin=

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

 Hi Kevino,
> >
> > > > I think I have tried every possible combination (incl passive =
ftp)=20
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > files uploaded using the EClass Builder, so far without any luck
> > > >
> > > > If I try to upload to a specific folder,
> > > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/screencapture.jpg
> > > > I get the following error message.
> > > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/error12.jpg.
> > >
> > > Does this error message occur before or when the first file is
> > > uploaded? That would suggest an error opening the data =
connection...
> >
> > I don't think any files are being uploaded, so I think it is the =
data=20
> > connection issue.
> >
> >=20
> > > Sorry to ask this again, but could you upload the errlog.txt after =

> > you
> > > got this message? There should be an error message this time.
> >
> > Not a problem. I cleared the errlog.txt and then tried to upload=20
> > files. Same old problem, you can find the errlog here:
> > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog6.txt
>=20
> Please try it again turning off Passive FTP and let me know what kind=20
> of error you get. This error log shows that the connection to the=20
> server was refused, which will happen if you're connecting via Passive =

> FTP and your router, etc. doesn't support connecting via Passive FTP.=20
> (I should handle this as a separate error though...)

I have tried this with passive FTP on and off in EClass Builder, with =
the same result (or more correctly no result). I am using the same brand =
(Linksys) of router at home as the office. I have no problems connecting =
via FTP (Filezilla and Dreamweaver), however if I try to connect using =
Passive FTP, I can't view files on the server.

Is it possible EClass is "only" trying to connect via passive FTP?


> >
> > > > Cancelled quiz output.
> > > > http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/demo-2-5-4-15g/
> >  > > This error/problem seems to happen the first time you use =
EClass=20
> > after
> > > > a
> > > > re-boot. All subsequent eclasses work fine with cancelled =
quizes.
> > >
> > > Is this the first quiz created anywhere in the EClass, or a quiz
> > > created as the first page of an EClass?
> >
> > This was the first quiz created in that eclass and the first page =
(not=20
> > including the inital course page, which was an eclass page). I am=20
> > having a real hard time replicating this problem.
>=20
> OK, I'll keep looking through the code, but I haven't seen this =
problem=20
> yet.

I will also keep trying to replicate the problem.

BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Jun 2, 2004, at 11:27 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

[snip]

> > Please try it again turning off Passive FTP and let me know what =
kind
> > of error you get. This error log shows that the connection to the
> > server was refused, which will happen if you're connecting via=20
> Passive
> > FTP and your router, etc. doesn't support connecting via Passive =
FTP.
> > (I should handle this as a separate error though...)
> I have tried this with passive FTP on and off in EClass Builder, with=20=

> the=A0same result (or more correctly no result). I am using the=20
> same=A0brand (Linksys)=A0of router at home as the office. I have no=20
> problems connecting via FTP (Filezilla and Dreamweaver), however if I=20=

> try to connect using Passive FTP, I can't view files on the server.
> =A0
> Is it possible EClass is "only" trying to connect via passive FTP?

I don't think so, as I also use a Linksys router and can't connect via=20=

passive FTP, but am able to FTP fine otherwise. Let me see your error=20
log after trying without passive FTP on. Whenever you see that "Server=20=

has unexpectedly closed the connection" error message, it writes a=20
description of the error to the error log. You shouldn't be getting the=20=

same error as you received with passive FTP if you are able to connect=20=

with other FTP clients.

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

K,

> [snip]

> > Is it possible EClass is "only" trying to connect via passive FTP?
>
> I don't think so, as I also use a Linksys router and can't connect via
> passive FTP, but am able to FTP fine otherwise. Let me see your error
> log after trying without passive FTP on. Whenever you see that "Server
> has unexpectedly closed the connection" error message, it writes a
> description of the error to the error log. You shouldn't be getting the
> same error as you received with passive FTP if you are able to connect
> with other FTP clients.

I wiped the errlog.txt file and tried uploading with passive FTP unchecked.
Errlog:
http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog7.txt


Two other things:

(working with 2.5.4.15)

I have noticed if you have a bookmark and a hotword with the same text, you
often get part of the tag appearing in the EClass page. Is there anyway to
get EClass to ignore text inside of the tag <markers>?

Suggestion:
Using the "Default (no frames)" theme, I like the EClass branding and I
think we should do it for the "Default (frames)" theme, too. I suggest you
have the "Built with EClass" link to open in a new window.


BJ

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[Kevin O. <ke...@tu...>]

Hi BJ,

On Jun 2, 2004, at 11:50 AM, BJ Cameron wrote:

> K,
>
>> [snip]
>
>>> Is it possible EClass is "only" trying to connect via passive FTP?
>>
>> I don't think so, as I also use a Linksys router and can't connect via
>> passive FTP, but am able to FTP fine otherwise. Let me see your error
>> log after trying without passive FTP on. Whenever you see that "Server
>> has unexpectedly closed the connection" error message, it writes a
>> description of the error to the error log. You shouldn't be getting 
>> the
>> same error as you received with passive FTP if you are able to connect
>> with other FTP clients.
>
> I wiped the errlog.txt file and tried uploading with passive FTP 
> unchecked.
> Errlog:
> http://payson.tulane.edu/staff/bjcameron/errlog7.txt

OK, I finally figured this out. There was a bug when you don't specify 
the "/" at the beginning of the directory name. EClass needed to add it 
but it wasn't doing that. So I think I've got this one fixed. =)

>
> Two other things:
>
> (working with 2.5.4.15)
>
> I have noticed if you have a bookmark and a hotword with the same 
> text, you
> often get part of the tag appearing in the EClass page. Is there 
> anyway to
> get EClass to ignore text inside of the tag <markers>?

It's supposed to do this already, but obviously there's a bug 
somewhere. I'll track it down... ;-(

> Suggestion:
> Using the "Default (no frames)" theme, I like the EClass branding and I
> think we should do it for the "Default (frames)" theme, too. I suggest 
> you
> have the "Built with EClass" link to open in a new window.

I'll add it and once I've resolved the hotword issue, I'll release a 
new version, which hopefully should be the final release in the 2.5.4 
series!

Thanks,

Kevin

Re: [Eclass-users] Latest version of Eclass

[BJ C. <ca...@tu...>]

Hi Kevino,

(snip)

> I'll add it and once I've resolved the hotword issue, I'll release a
> new version, which hopefully should be the final release in the 2.5.4
> series!

I agree, I think after these bugs are fixed, EClass is ready for general
distribution.

You have done a great job Kevin!

BJ