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From: Ed S. <sl...@us...> - 2005-02-15 08:55:32
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Eugene Sadovsky wrote: > What about EJB testing? > We have 2 choises AFAIK (mostly): > either > 1. pure jUnit tests mixed with Mock objects > or > 2. use Cactus > > what do you prefer? > Also I've heard about junitee... but (IMHO) Cactus better, b/c it's > mature apache project. > I vote for Cactus, but my vote based only on 10 minutes of docs reading > and some examples from book "JUnit in Action" by Manning (small chapter > there) I think we'll use all of them - JUnit for testing core components, Cactus for web-based stuff and Mocks here and there. And we could also find use for HttpUnit and JMeter. These are all pretty much just buzz-words for us now - but it'd be nice to feel them and have them mastered. Relevant books are: Professional Java Tools for Extreme Programming by Wrox Java Extreme Programming Cookbook from OReilly Java Testing and Design from PH I'd start from cookbook - it's small - 200 pages and should give concrete examples right away. -- slimb |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-15 08:43:13
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What about EJB testing? We have 2 choises AFAIK (mostly): either 1. pure jUnit tests mixed with Mock objects or 2. use Cactus what do you prefer? Also I've heard about junitee... but (IMHO) Cactus better, b/c it's mature apache project. I vote for Cactus, but my vote based only on 10 minutes of docs reading and some examples from book "JUnit in Action" by Manning (small chapter there) |
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From: Ed S. <sl...@us...> - 2005-02-15 08:38:50
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Eugene Sadovsky wrote: > Shame of me... but better I'll reask... > What the difference between update and checkout? > > update synchronizes CVS tree with work tree... download and upload... > > > checkout - download only... no any upload Well, I'm a bit rusty on CVS myself - since I'm using Subversion for almost a year now. Why don't you browse your docs on CVS? Out of the top of my head - you use co only once - when you're creating a working copy. Then you use update to sync your working directory with latest up-to-date files in repository. Those updates are merged or are being tried to be merged with your working (possible modified) working copy. No upload happens until you say 'ci'. So forget about co once you've checked out your module and use 'update' and 'ci' to grab latest work from your peers and upload your changes. -- slimb |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-15 08:21:34
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Shame of me... but better I'll reask... What the difference between update and checkout? update synchronizes CVS tree with work tree... download and upload... checkout - download only... no any upload |
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From: Ed S. <sl...@us...> - 2005-02-15 08:18:48
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> Take a look at adress, where you sending message > if it's eca...@li... - you sending it to mail-list > in most cases replay moves to sender... need to fix "replay-to" field or > do check outgoing adress... I got you now, well as I said I just replied and I think that's mailman who's job to fix reply-to headers so when I reply I post to ML and not privately to a sender. Anyway, I need to be more accurate, thanks. > BTW, shame of me, but I haven't finished EJB stuff yet... looks like we > will work in business teir together with you... That's good - since you did not started to write anything - you are ready for test-first stuff - write your tests - fail them - write your code - make sure you have green tests. -- slimb |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-15 08:07:45
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Ed Sinjiashvili =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > Eugene Sadovsky wrote: > >> You are right, let's play with Test Driven Development and JUnit...=20 >> in my turn I'll need to read something about unit testing and ejb. > > Yep, and you should not write ejb first too ;) > >> BTW... this branch we keeping as private or public? > > By branch you mean this mailing-list thread? Dunno - I'm just replying = - > how can a thread by private? > > Take a look at adress, where you sending message if it's eca...@li... - you sending it to mail-list in most cases replay moves to sender... need to fix "replay-to" field or=20 do check outgoing adress... BTW, shame of me, but I haven't finished EJB stuff yet... looks like we=20 will work in business teir together with you... |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-15 07:47:56
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Ed Sinjiashvili =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4: > Eugene Sadovsky wrote: > >> >> Also, I want you to read about some core j2ee patterns: >> - business delegate; >> - transfer objects; >> - session facade. > > Ok, I'll try to find some time to read it > >> It's all for a first time, later we will need some others. > > While we are at it, how about starting from TDD viewpoint - writing=20 > some JUnit and Cactus tests - we are trying to learn new things, right=20 > - otherwise we could just sit down and > implement the damn thing in a couple of days. > You are right, let's play with Test Driven Development and JUnit... in=20 my turn I'll need to read something about unit testing and ejb. > -- slimb > > P.S. Who's that Sadovsky guy? > That's the name for "partizanish" actions and so on..;) BTW... this branch we keeping as private or public? |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-14 18:05:44
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Hello Ed, Does this game worth playing? IMHO this study project will not exceed 200-300 kb in total... Anyway, at this point we have setted up CVS repository and so on... changing host-place is just a time waisting - again IMHO ;) Also, let's use russian lang for mail list to avoid some polysemy... And a bit more I'd like to say: it's already Feb 14 and we have nothing done and I don't like this! > Hello there, fellow ecampus developers ;) > I've done some googling for subversion-powered incubators and found this > one: > http://www.berlios.de/ > Seems like savannah uses CVS too. > -- slimb |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-14 18:04:50
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Hello Ed, > Yep, let's move on - and do something - I'm pretty vague about EJB and > the goal of entire project . Sorry 'bout some english - just too lazy to > hit alt-shift and besides nobody's gonna read it anyway. ok... let's move out of our "hogwash place" to bettr life...;) at least let's do first step...;) As for goals: we playing in business tier, children in web tier ;) We need to build system, that represents human resources management. As I allways have problems with my fantasy, I decided to steal domain objects scheme from existing project ;) Later, I'll describe objects relations. Also, I want you to read about some core j2ee patterns: - business delegate; - transfer objects; - session facade. It's all for a first time, later we will need some others. -- Best regards, Eugene mailto:Eug...@ma... |
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From: Eugene S. <Eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-14 17:48:47
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Если мне не изменяет память, то счас неплохое время для того, чтобы поговорить о проекте в терминах "историй". Что явно вырисовывается: для людей, которые ответственны за внос информации необходимо дать возможность делать следующее - внести основную информацию о работнике; - внести информацию о образовании работника; - внести информацию о составе семьи работника; - внести информацию о профессии работника; - внести информацию об отпусках работника; - внести информацию о наградах работника; - внести информацию об обучении на курсах повышения квалификации работника; - внести информацию об обучении на курсах переподготовки (смена профессии) работника; - внести информацию об опыте работы (те самые записи в тредовой - где, когда и кем); - внести информацию о передвижении работника по должностям на предприятии; Это были все вещи связанные с внесением информации. Для навигации потребуется возможности: - просмотр списка работников с пейджингом и фильтрами; С тем, какие отчеты строить разберемся позже. Это вовсе не полный список... додумаюсь до чего - допишу. Вообще, было бы неплохо определиться с ролями. Проект учебный, посему, можно дать фантазии разгуляться. |
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From: Ed S. <sl...@us...> - 2005-02-13 18:36:53
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Hello there, fellow ecampus developers ;) I've done some googling for subversion-powered incubators and found this one: http://www.berlios.de/ Seems like savannah uses CVS too. -- slimb |
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From: Eugene S. <eug...@ma...> - 2005-02-11 07:05:44
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