Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things

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but htey can't kill it.
so, they will try to get back into the club.
you know it, I know it, even they know it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things


> They don't want to miss out on it, they want to "kill" it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things
>
>
> > Already been corrected.
> > But use yer brains folks..
> > why in the hell would MS want to miss out on something as big as Java?
> > It's simply not in their nature.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nuno Ferreira" <nun...@wi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 4:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things
> >
> >
> > > >Actually, MS just paid Sun 20 million dollars to licence java for
their
> > own
> > > >use.
> > > >I don't think we need to worry about there being no Java support in
> IE6.
> > >
> > > Correction: They paid 20 Million dollars to Sun, on court order,
> > > because of a breach of license. I don't think they intend to support
> Java
> > at
> > > all.
> > > BUT, I think they will continue to support JS, though they will not
> > develop
> > > it
> > > further, cause that would be against their .net philisophy.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things
> > >
> > >
> > > > The only thing that concerns me, is our friends over at Microsoft.
> > While
> > > > they were moving towards DOM compliance (around the time they ported
> IE5
> > > to
> > > > the Macintosh) they took a hard left with IE5.5 when they decided
that
> > war
> > > > with the Java/Unix camp was inevitable.
> > > >
> > > > I have a lot of concerns with the pending Whistler/IE6 combination,
> > > because
> > > > I am pretty sure it's going be a major paradigm shift for them/us
> (think
> > > > zero support for client side Java).  M$ is moving to align all their
> > > > products OS/Software around the .net strategy while at the same time
> > > pushing
> > > > the "disturbance factor" in other alternative platforms  (hmmmm,
this
> > > seems
> > > > to run like shit on my PC compared to 100% M$ products) as much as
> they
> > > can
> > > > without flagging the Justice Department "to much".
> > > >
> > > > Additionally, the long awaited arrival of NS6 came and went without
so
> > > much
> > > > as a ripple of real impact.  I think that good old Netscape finally
> > found
> > > > out how to align the bullet-filled cylinder of business blunders
with
> > > their
> > > > head.  NS6 is a dead alternative in the eyes of Joe Consumer.  I
can't
> > > even
> > > > imagine AOL wrapping there consumer online service around this
browser
> > > > instead of IE  (that they use now), unless they want to hand MSN
> > > > marketshare.
> > > >
> > > > In no way am I supporting an IE concentric approach.  We just need
to
> be
> > > > aware that "shit is gonna hit the developer fan" in 3-7 months when
> they
> > > > release Whistler.  They have spent a billion dollars developing this
> > > release
> > > > with two goals in mind.  Stunt the growth of Java and kill Linux as
a
> > > viable
> > > > "consumer OS" alternative.  By consumer OS I mean our average home
PC
> > > user.
> > > >
> > > > A scary fact is that M$ has said they don't plan on releasing IE6 as
a
> > > > public beta.  It's gonna release inside the Whistler OS update.  Get
> > > > Whistler, get IE6.  This means one thing.  IE6 and Whistler are
being
> > > > developed in tandem to create strategic havoc for the Java/Unix
camps.
> > > >
> > > > Javascript (the DynAPI foundation) will likely survive as a
> > cross-platform
> > > > language; it's to entrenched and strategically means little to M$'s
> end
> > > > goals.  We can :O) a bit here.
> > > >
> > > > This is why I don't want to spend a lot of time developing a Java
> Applet
> > > > Client/Side I/O device for DynAPI2 Michael.  I'm not even sure it
will
> > be
> > > > supported with the new IE6.  I think Java is going to be a
server-side
> > > tool
> > > > for awhile.
> > > >
> > > > In the end, basic DOM support with the DynAPI is probably the best
> path.
> > > > But lets be smart (as we can be with limited knowledge) about how we
> > > enhance
> > > > that API with input/output shunts to the dynamic server/side world.
> > > >
> > > > Laters,
> > > >
> > > > Ray
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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