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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer Bloat
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From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2001-02-18 23:01:06
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My concern was never size.. but Optimization, BUT a small part of that is size.. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynLayer Bloat > I did alot of research on dynamic compression. About 90% of the installed > base of Browsers is HTTP 1.1 compliant at this time. If you use Apache you > can integrate the RCI (Remote Communications Inc) dynamic compression > mod_gzip module (it's free). > http://www.remotecommunications.com/apache/mod_gzip/ > > Using this you can compress the whole bloated API into a 18K package if you > include EVERYTHING, smarter lads won't. Size of API isn't my concern. > Optimization is because IE itself is "three-legged dog" slow building > layers. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...> > To: <dyn...@li...> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > > > > I've been saying for month now that the API is getting bloated.. > > We REALLY need to re-evaluate the current structure and code.. > > As I'm sure your getrting tired of hearing, > > 2 minutes is simple TOO long for a site to load. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Bennett" <ma...@ri...> > > To: <dyn...@li...> > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 9:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > > > > > > > > You just don't get it. > > > Let's avoid this kind of disrespect where possible. > > > > > > You've done some interesting work, and now that there's something > tangible > > > to work with I spent some time testing it. > > > I can't comment on whether or not objects are being passed, or assigned > > > static or whatever, simply on test results. > > > I find the results show not necessarily how fast Canvas is, but how > > horribly > > > slow DynAPI has grown. > > > I did some extended testing, and put this online, so others can compare > > the > > > results for themselves. > > > > > > I did the test without children, one building 1000 layers, one building > > 200 > > > layers. > > > I applied these to: > > > * Canvas > > > * DynAPI 25/jan/01 release > > > * DynaCore 2001/01/13 release > > > * DynAPI Lite 29/aug/2000 > > > * DynAPI Lite Compact code 29/aug/2000 > > > > > > My results where: (in ms. on p3 550 winMe IE5.5 128ram) > > > Canvas 1000 18.130 > > > Canvas 200 1.320 > > > DynAPI 1000 94.470 > > > DynAPI 200 4390 > > > DynaCore 1000 21.030 > > > DynaCore 200 1.430 > > > DynAPI Lite 1000 9.340 > > > DynAPI Lite 200 1.200 > > > DynAPI Comp.1000 11.590 > > > DynAPI Comp. 200 1.100 > > > > > > The tests are online here: > > > http://www.dynapi.f2s.com/dynapi/tcanvas/ > > > > > > If anyone wants to add files or anything here's the FTP: > > > username: dynapi > > > password: dynapi > > > > > > I think it's clear there is something seriously slowing down the DynAPI, > > if > > > DynaCore is so much faster with more or less the same functionality, > > > something's wrong. > > > Also I'm all for including the Lite files again, as their times are very > > > good. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Richard Bennett > > > > > > ma...@ri... > > > www.richardinfo.com > > > (Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000 snapshot of > DynAPI2) > > > Find the DynAPI faq here: > > > http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=656&group_id=5757 > > > Browse the mailinglist here: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/index.php3?hunt=dynapi > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <ey...@tr...> > > > To: <dyn...@li...> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 9:57 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer > > > > > > > > > > You just don't get it. > > > > It's not that I use different code and the version I tested with has a > > > > children list. (uses my TList so didn't include it). > > > > The reason it's faster is such. When browsers parse js code and create > > > > objects they create actual objects in their application. That means > that > > > for > > > > every dynlayer there is an object inside Netscape or IE with actual > > > objects > > > > in them. In your method of creation you: > > > > Create new DynLayer() > > > > Call add child to the parent > > > > Parent does the following > > > > static Create the virtual object > > > > static Create the actual element > > > > static Assign the element > > > > This means that the browser has to > > > > Get Parent object in browsers memory > > > > Call addchild > > > > Call static line and create js object > > > > Call static line and create js element > > > > Call staticassignment where you have to get obj1 and obj2 and assign > > > > and more of this type of thing > > > > It slows down the process by a whole lot > > > > What my create does is: > > > > Create new Canvas() > > > > myCanvas.create does this: > > > > Check who the parent is > > > > if null create in the actual document > > > > if Canvas create under it > > > > No passing of object between methods, not assigning no static methods. > > > > > > > > 8an > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > > > > Dyn...@li... > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your free domain name and domain-based e-mail from > > > > Namezero.com. 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