Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

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I have done some work aimed at just that with my =
work-in-progress-but-stalled serverTasks fileI/O widget. Here's my dev =
ref spec if anybody want to pick up on it for server-side languages =
besides ASP, which unfortunatly is the only one I'm profident enough in:

input
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
querystring from a form with get method or manipulating the URI with =
javascript:=20

file  - the file path + name=20
task  - values: open|save|del
content  - text to be saved (not required for open or del,so the script  =

   shouldn't bug out if this one isn't provided)

output
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
javascript syntax variables new values as pure text without any =
surrounding script tag:

this.file  - just to reassure it's the right file being handled=20
this.task  - the current set task (which will be default til new is set) =

this.scriptname  - returns the scriptname just to make sure
this.serverResponse - returns "opened","saved" or "deleted" if =
successful or else custom error message
this.tasktime  - nice feature if you want to inform your users how long =
they waited ;)
this.content  - holds the last saved content until the variable value is =
changed (escape encoded)

script-run
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
the script should run this:

1. recieve the input (if applicable set to local values)
2. read from file opendir and compare if any line match the path ( =
ievalue of file input value excluding the filename - the part before =
last /). If it match any one line the script should continue towards =
running the task, and if not just end and return new output =
this.serverResponse=3D'no access'.
3. check that the file exists. If it doesn't, task save should create a =
new file, while open and del just return =
serverResponse=3D'non-existing'.
4. run the task defined in input variable task. task save should return =
'saved' if successful, task open return 'opened' & task del 'deleted'.
5 output javascript syntax as pure text, the content value should be =
escape encoded as to not mess upp the browser client view =20

I'm not yet sure how the javascript would have to be output to work =
correctly in the loadpanel of the serverTask fileI/O widget, but it =
should be able to get the same output from whatever server-side language =
using the standard model above, and even a client-side script might =
interface it as complement when.

I already got it partly working as expected with the ASP variant, all i =
need is some ideas as to how to get the javascript properly refered back =
to the widget in which the hidden loadpanel holds the ASP script output. =
And of course if someone would take on the task of scripting a =
corresponding server-side variant of that interface as described above. =
Then maybe it could be taken further to a dbI/O servertasks widget later =
on...

You're free to ask or comment ahead, all responses are apprieated :)

Henrik V=E5glin [ hv...@ya... ]

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Robert Rainwater" <rra...@ya...>
To: "DynAPI Development List" <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:25 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

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> We should come up with some specification for the component, including
> the methods and properties.  Then, it could be created for different
> environments, but work essentially the same.  That way, people could
> help work on the specific language that they know the best.
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> --=20
> // Robert Rainwater
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> On 2/14/2001, 2:09:52 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] serious, =
... really!":
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> > What about those who don't use unix?
> > How about a perl based DynServer component?
> > We could implement Server-side File i/o, as well as a Perl based =
Database..
> > To name a couple of things
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:29 PM
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!
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> >> Associates,
> >>
> >> I've been doing alot of research in what direction I would like to =
go
> > next;
> >> in conjunction with the DynAPI.  While the API is wonderous for =
creating
> >> dynamic interfaces it needs a server-side partner in my mind to =
reach its
> >> full potential.
> >>
> >> Comparing ASP, JSP and PHP I've decided that LAMP (Linux, Apache, =
mySQL
> > and
> >> PHP) tends to result in more robust client/server applications.  =
With PHP
> >> Zend boosted beating both in speed and performance and PHP appears =
to have
> >> allot of energy surronding it at this time.
> >>
> >> So, from that aspect, PHP wins.  Also there appears to be a very =
sizable
> >> family of "real" PHP initiatives on Source Forge to draw and learn =
from.
> >>
> >> But,...
> >>
> >> From my readings it's also apparent that JAVA is "king and master" =
of the
> >> Server Side Application if the JVM and runtime code is compiled =
properly.
> >> But, checking Source Forge for Java related projects creates a =
large list
> > of
> >> mostly abstract and esoteric projects: not alot of meat on the =
bones from
> > a
> >> "get things done" standpoint.
> >>
> >> Question is, what do you mavens of logical mayhem recommend as my =
next
> > area
> >> of focus.  I am interested in developing some server-side =
applications
> > that
> >> meld into the DynAPI interface on the client-side (yes, Pascal... =
be
> >> amazied).
> >>
> >> Java or PHP?
> >>
> >> Will learning PHP now be advantageous or detrimental to learning =
JAVA/JINI
> >> later?
> >> How does OOP in PHP compare to JAVA OOP?  I realize it lacks =
interfaces
> > and
> >> solid abstraction.
> >> Why are most the PHP initiatives on Source Forge solid and down to =
earth
> >> while JAVA tends to be lofty and not very "real world" in nature?
> >>
> >> Looking for a little feedback here.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Ray "fear the rock" Smith
> >>
> >>
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