Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion

[Richard B. <ma...@ri...>]

So what's wrong with ensuring backward compatibility, while adding the
newest effects for the latest browsers?
I don't think most customers *mind* if a little colored border, or some
transparency don't show in NS4, as long as the site looks nice and readable
in that browser.

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion


> Then isn't that the big problem? That people still want THE site to be 4.x
> compatible? WHY!?
>
> And I think we're only making that problem bigger for developers by
> introducing an API that actually makes DHTML development almost a breeze
> (still the biggest supporter/fan of this thing out there :).
>
> I mean, we ALL know that 90% (more) is using IE5+ .. so why aren't we
> participating on it? The webdesign world is just one screwed up world
(maybe
> the complete software world is?)  We're trying to hang on to old things
just
> because 10% (less!) are using it?  Marketing people or sales people are
> probably laughing when they here numbers like that..
>
>
> "If the move was to end supporting 4.x browsers, I think most people will
> stop using it professionaly, and treat it just like a cool thing where you
> can develop some experimental stuff..."
>
> So DynAPI is a tool that makes it possible to do code that works on older
> browsers? Because that's exactly what I was saying..are we holding things
> back because of the support for 4.x ? And could it be more powerfull when
> supporting 5.x stuff (like IE5's behaviours, or image filters, or NS6's
> build-in eventlisteners)..
>
> (btw. : with this discussion I'm trying to figure out a few things about
> browser support and possibilities for the DynAPI)
>
> Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> Software ontwikkelaar
> Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> http://www.oibv.com
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Nuno Ferreira
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 6 februari 2001 16:18
> > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Netscape 6 discussion
> >
> >
> >
> > >Leading to my real question: should DynAPI keep
> > supporting "old" 4.x
> > >browsers? is there any need for it?
> >
> > At least in my world there is.
> > If, for instance, the DynAPI stopped supporting NS 4.x,
> > and/or IE 4.x I
> > would
> > certain would stop using it.
> >
> > People forget that usually, a client, particulary, a BIG Client, when
> > specifiying
> > the Browser target for his/her web page, usually wants to
> > target IE4.x and
> > NS 4.x
> > Trust me, they don't care if the latest statistics show 90%
> > of the Market
> > using
> > IE, they care about the other 10% too, because they want all
> > the users to be
> > able
> > to access their site. Some months ago I did some HTML
> > optimization for the
> > team
> > that built the site of the biggest telecom company in
> > Portugal, and they
> > demanded
> > that we should maintain IE 3x and NS 3x compatibility!
> >
> > I do think that the main problem is not supporting NS and IE, it's
> > supporting
> > a) IE 4.x, IE 5.0, IE 5.5 on Win32
> > b) IE 4.x, IE 5.5 on Mac
> > c) NS 4.x
> > d) NS 6
> >
> > If you look closely there's more IE versions out there that
> > NS versions (at
> > least
> > from a pratical point of view). Most users are very lazy, and
> > if you look at
> > most
> > statistics, and if their version of Win has IE 4, or IE 5.0
> > they stick to it
> > until
> > they cannot view a page decently, and only then they upgrade,
> > because 15Mb
> > downloads
> > are still out of the question for the great majority.
> >
> > I don't know if NS 4 is the same on Linux, Win32 and Mac, so
> > this view maybe
> > a bit biased or incomplete.
> >
> > You can't ignore 4.x versions as long as there's millions
> > using them, just
> > as you
> > can't start developing for a 1024x768 while there's millions
> > using smaller
> > screen
> > sizes (actually 800x600 is still the most widely used screen size...)
> >
> > I work in a Web Design and Development so I deal with this
> > problem all the
> > time,
> > and I can safely say that professionaly, we're gonna have to
> > deal with 4.x
> > browsers
> > a long time still.
> >
> > If the move was to end supporting 4.x browsers, I think most
> > people will
> > stop using
> > it professionaly, and treat it just like a cool thing where
> > you can develop
> > some
> > experimental stuff...
> >
> >
> > NunoF
> >
> >
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