Stats (WAS Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation)

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Not a bad idea.
I will look into such an association for www.AllTheWhile.com
(my other company)
I'll let y'all know how that goes..

Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Ellis" <Mic...@il...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation

> Just to further clarify... Doug and Raymond's statement are correct. The
> www.statmarket.com is much broader based... they collect the stats from
> anyone using 'HitBox'. There daily sample is supposed to be based on
around
> 50,000,000 hits. Unfortunately the free report uses old sample data, and
the
> subscriptions/custom demographic reports aren't cheap (about $950/report,
I
> don't even know what they charge for a full subscription).
>
> This is a list of the browsers/platforms that most of our domestic
customers
> need supported (this may differ for your clients needs. Please feel free
to
> flame me on this, I don't pretend to have the answers... just a starting
> point):
>
> Windows:
>
> IE 4.1 (SP1)
> IE 5.0
> IE 5.5
>
> NS 4.08
> NS 4.76
> NS 6.0
>
> Mac:
>
> IE 5.0 (Ugly, I know)
> NS 4.08
> NS 6.0
>
> Maybe it would make sense for someone in charge of the site to see about a
> ASP/strategic alliance (link) with an organization that provides good
> statistics. It would certianly help educate us, and lend an air of
> credability to our cross platform/cross browser code premise. Then again,
> setting up these relationships is usually a pain in the ass.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Melvin [mailto:do...@cr...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:23
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
>
>
> that's not 'in the world'
> All stats on that site are from visiter to that site, and
> represent ONLY visiters to that site.
> Not the world.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cameron Hart" <ca...@bi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:59 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
>
>
> > It is quite frightening to know that 5 people in the world are using
MSIE
> > 1.x ;-)
> >
> > I mean, has anyone even seen IE 1???
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Raymond
> > > Smith
> > > Sent: 30 January 2001 05:50
> > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
> > >
> > >
> > > Carefull if your using the "sample stats" from there.  They date back
to
> > > 1999 and reflect an older reality.  Most recent browser stats I have
> found
> > > are at www.thecounter.com.  From October 2000.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Ellis" <Mic...@il...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 2:53 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
> > >
> > >
> > > > Amen brother!
> > > >
> > > > No argument here... Although we can be educated to, we cannot expect
> nor
> > > > demand which platform/browser our end-users choose. If our
> > > software is to
> > > be
> > > > taken seriously, and serve a broad community we must be reasonable
> about
> > > > which platforms/browsers we support. If you think I'm full of it,
> check
> > > the
> > > > browser/platform statistics at www.statmarket.com (don't rely on
> > > statistics
> > > > gathered by developer forums, they attract developers like us and
are
> > > > typically not representative of our products end-users).
> > > >
> > > > Mike Ellis
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: .:: OCB ::. [mailto:oc...@ho...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:15
> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Next generation ???
> > > >
> > > > Would it not be a good idea to get the DynApi2 working in all
browsers
> > > > (basic methods, moveTo, event handlers etc; not wigits, IMO they
take
> a
> > > > backseat to basic functionality) before even discussing another
> > > generation
> > > > of the API.
> > > >
> > > > I haven't contributed anything in months (which is beyond my
control)
> so
> > > > feel quite apprehensive about posting this but again, IMO, it
> > > makes common
> > > > sense to get the basic's of this project crossbrowser (NN6 included)
> and
> > > bug
> > > >
> > > > free before launching into another generation of the API.
> > > >
> > > > Flame away !!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jared Nuzzolillo" <ja...@aa...>
> > > > >Reply-To: dyn...@li...
> > > > >To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > >Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Next Generation
> > > > >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 11:46:41 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >I have a feeling that certain people are wanting to implement
> > > class-like
> > > > >inheritance because it is more familiar/comfortable to them.
> > > > >
> > > > >I strongly agree with Pascal. Prototype-based inheritance works
> > > > >beautifully,
> > > > >and is native to javascript, so why would we want to enforce a
> > > different
> > > > >type of inheritance to use the API? Most dynapi users will at least
> be
> > > > >familiar with javascript, and may be expecting Prototype-like
> behavior.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's kind of like creating a number class instead of using built in
> > > number
> > > > >objects and primitive types. It's pointeless.
> > > > >
> > > > >As far as the class/prototype argument as to what Netscape says,
the
> > > first
> > > > >line of this article:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/communicator/jsobj/con
> > tents.htm
> > > >
> > > >reads as follows:
> > > >
> > > >"JavaScript is an object-oriented language based on prototypes,
rather
> > > >than,
> > > >as is common, being class-based."
> > > >
> > > >-jaredn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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