RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

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Just an intellectual JS question on this subject... doesn't keeping the
eventlistener in the prototype assure the code only exists in one place in
memory (i.e. - each instantiated object points to the same code)?  Given the
browser's poor memory handling, isn't this a good thing, and better than
having multiple copies of the same code clogging things up?  If the code is
written properly, it seems to me that everything should work just fine and
dandy for all insantiated objects, or am I missing something here?

-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal [mailto:pb...@oi...]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:56 AM
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

Yes, the widgets should indeed now use the precreation system, and the
eventlistener should not be attached using prototype (it's part of the
object, not of the prototype chain).

Also events should be invoked, and not be hard coded functions (can't recall
if I ever did that).

and, uhm, please drop the Master..

cya,

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> Verzonden: donderdag 11 januari 2001 5:43
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
> I've been dragging skinwindows just by attaching the
> 'behavior' at creation
> time.  When Master Pascal mentioned the need for updating I
> think he was
> refering to the need to convert them to the precreate system.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
> > Window is now draggable..
> > also, you can double click on the title bar to maximize/restore..
> > Need to add a cover layer over caption text as caption text
> blocks click
> > events
> > in the title bar..
> >
> > Doug Melvin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard :o" <ma...@ri...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 4:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> >
> >
> > > > correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would
> also need work to
> > make
> > > > them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not
> planning on for a
> > > while.
> > >
> > > So Doug, please send your fixes over to me as I would
> like to support
> > these
> > > great
> > > widgets as long as possible, and the lack of draggability
> under IE5.5
> was
> > a
> > > long overdue fix.
> > >
> > > Regarding elastic, I apply this on my page by detecting browser
> dimensions
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > var winH,winW,w, h, ow, oh, q
> > >
> > > function findWH() {
> > >  winW = (is.ns)? window.innerWidth : document.body.offsetWidth-20
> > >  winH = (is.ns)? window.innerHeight : document.body.offsetHeight-4
> > >                              //I'm not sure what the -20
> and -4  was
> > needed
> > > for now
> > >    ow= 1004/winW;
> > >    oh= 648/winH;
> > >    if(ow>oh){q=ow;}else{q=oh;}
> > >  return q
> > > }
> > >
> > > DynAPI.onLoad=function() {
> > >     q=findWH()
> > >
> > > and then all sizes defined are divided by q, like this:
> > >
> > > statusMsg=new DynLayer(null,0,0,120/q,120/q);
> > >
> > > When done like this it means objects retain their
> original shape; so if
> > > someone's browser is letterbox
> > > shaped, your page doesn't become squashed, but decreases
> in width as
> well.
> > >
> > > in the resize event you could put:
> > > q=findWH()    //gets new dimensions
> > > statusMsg.slideTo(120/q,120/q);
> > >
> > > I haven't done the resizing bit on my page right now,
> because I wanted
> to
> > > animate the resizing
> > > properly (ie the things fly to the new place, and
> grow/shrink). Also
> many
> > > people resize the browser
> > > while the page is loading, which could cause errors and
> crashes, so I
> only
> > > let the onResize()
> > > code execute (during testing) after a variable was set at
> the end of my
> > > preloading sequence.
> > > Of course NS can't animate anything onResize(), as it
> simply has to be
> > > reloaded, at least I haven't
> > > seen recreateAll() work properly without a reload.
> > >
> > > The only problem I run into was text size, you can change
> the font size
> > > using the same variable, ie:
> > >
> > > statusMsg.setHTML('<span style="font-size: '+16/q+'pt;">Blah
> Blah</span>')
> > >
> > > but during testing NS gave a lot of problems, looking on
> it now I think
> > the
> > > problem was that I had two stylesheets
> > > applied to the same document, one directly and one
> through a skinButton
> > > widget, but I'm not sure.
> > >
> > > I hope there's something in there of use;
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Richard  :o
> > >
> > > ma...@ri...
> > > www.richardinfo.com
> > > (Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000 snapshot of
> DynAPI2)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:40 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a
> Java gui tool
> > >
> > >
> > > > correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would
> also need work to
> > make
> > > > them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not
> planning on for a
> > > while.
> > > >
> > > > cya,
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer
> > > > pa...@dy...
> > > > http://www.dynamic-core.net
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Robert
> Rainwater
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 21:35
> > > > > Aan: DynAPI Development List
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a
> Java gui tool
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I know none of those widgets are in CVS.
> Aren't those
> > > > > Pascal's widgets?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > // Robert Rainwater
> > > > >
> > > > > On 1/10/2001, 6:02:56 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev]
> > > > > Making progress on a Java gui tool":
> > > > >
> > > > > > How do I get access to the CVS system..
> > > > > > I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> > > > > > Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> > > > > > I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> > > > > > Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> > > > > > (re-position it and set it's width)
> > > > > > and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> > > > > > I am also working on an elatic object..
> > > > > > What this does is resizes and repositions the
> content on your
> > > > > page for any
> > > > > > browser size.. and automatically does so when you
> change the size
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > browser..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> > > > > > Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > > > > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to,
> now we know.  It
> > > does
> > > > > >> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed
> hydra here, as
> > others
> > > > > >> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a
> DynBuilder while
> > > other
> > > > > >> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to
> speed up "the
> > still
> > > > > > bugged
> > > > > >> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh
> since November of
> > 2000.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and
> help Robert debug
> > > this
> > > > > > stuff
> > > > > >> I fear I submit about as much confusion as
> contribution.  But I
> get
> > > the
> > > > > >> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the
> > > > > current CVS.
> > > > > >> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus
> > > > > allowing us to
> > > > > >> further defocus our efforts while other do grand
> debate on what
> > this
> > > > > > "thing"
> > > > > >> should be.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the
> current base
> > > > > code in the
> > > > > > CVS
> > > > > >> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with
> > > > > precreate and
> > > > > >> inline creation integration that still needs to be
> cleaned up.
> > > > >  It seems
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >> only really active debugger right now is Robert
> and Pascal (on
> > > > > a limited
> > > > > >> basis).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
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