Re: [Dynapi-Chat] DynAPI IDE project

[<hv...@ya...>]

Well I use a couple of java applications incluing JBuilder (which is an =
excelent java builder too, avaialable for free in a personal version), =
ArgoUML (to draw OO diagrames and schemes) and a few other SF projects =
application. Non of these have given me any trouble whatsoever and they =
all run smooth. As I sad I have reconsider, cause my previous experience =
was that java WAS bloated, slow and all that, but after experience how =
smooth these apps run - and I'm talking about java applications, web =
applets still hold true to being unfit - I don't have ay of my previous =
resevations.

I'm glad that you show interested, and it would be great if you could =
join our efforts. However I'm pretty sure the language is rather =
settled. I don't know if maybe C++ and java is able to go together. In =
that case maybe the applications kernel could be done in C++ running =
java?=20

You're still welecome if you have any ideas.

Henrik V=E5glin [ hv...@ya... ]


----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Geert Bevin" <gb...@th...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Chat] DynAPI IDE project


Just me 2c ...

Although I'm excited about this project, I sadly cant join due too my=20
participance in too many projects already. However, I can't keep my=20
mouth shut about java. Have you ever written a GUI app in java / swing?=20
Are you using a full-featured java / swing application daily? If so,=20
consider if you're willing to have to deal with *A LOT* of slow code,=20
memory bloat, big filesize, crawling startup speed, etc etc ...=20
Personally I hate using GUI apps that are written in java and they work=20
on my nerves.

Recently I've ditched 5 months of work in java due to this. I spent more =

time having to find hacks to make the software operate at an acceptable=20
speed and conveniance than to work on the project itself. I switched to=20
C++ using the Qt library and have never looked back since. Qt is so well =

engineered that you have a lot of the facilities of a rich and easy to=20
use toolkit (such as java) without most of java's problems. Since a=20
non-commercial version is now also freely available for windows, one of=20
Qt's major drawbacks has at last disappeared.

Hope this help a bit,

Geert Bevin


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