Re: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting Resources

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "C Kissinger" <cki...@ne...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting Resources
>
> OK, I get the point.
> The idea is to just redo the SF site.
>
> I thought it would help PR if we had dynapi.com
> or somesuch domain as the "public access" or
> slick "final release" site and concentrate on
> the SF site as dev site.

Maybe it would be simpler to stay focussed on the site redesign (which isn't
done yet) before switching ISPs.  This way we don't have to juggle two major
changes at once.  But I wouldn't dismiss or devalue the discussion about
other hosting options if that would be agreeable and beneficial to the
group.  Always nice to have options.

One point that really sticks out though, we really should have the DNS
cleaned up so that they all point to the new (primary?) site, wether it's on
SF or elsewhere.  Dan Steinman is the inventor and reinventor of the DynAPI,
has been the cornerstone since its inception.  But where has he been lately?
He doesn't post, so I don't know if he reads or cares about the project or
is just to darn busy with all the other things that come up in life.

Anyways, the point I'm trying to make, is this project also has a lot of new
talent who have put a lot of work into this DynAPI 3.x, so it's maybe not
just Dan's private little project anymore.  Again, I hate to sound like I'm
trying to take something away (i.e. pry the DNS out of his hands), but maybe
more than one person (some voted DNS group) could have access to the DNS
stuff so it could be more easily changed in the future (i.e. not having to
wait if he's on vacation, if other mail is taking priority, etc.).  And not
just one person controlling it who could shoot down any plans to change
simply by saying "no, it's mine and I don't want to do it, or I'm too busy
to bother right now".  That's my only concern.

Leif

> Christopher Kissinger
> Web Development Consultant
>
> Net Industries, Inc.
> www.netindustries.net
>
>
> >>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>  From: dyn...@li...
> >>>  [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf
> >>>  Of Raymond Irving
> >>>  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:51 AM
> >>>  To: dyn...@li...
> >>>  Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting Resources
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Hi Chris,
> >>>
> >>>  Please see below:
> >>>
> >>>  --- C Kissinger <cki...@ne...> wrote:
> >>>  > OK, so if Dan has any input soon or if we could
> >>>  > contact him, we ask him if he's willing to point
> >>>  > his DNS at our IPs? Prefer .com, .org, or .net?
> >>>
> >>>  Ok. Are we planning on moving the DynAPI website from
> >>>  SF to another ISP?
> >>>
> >>>  > Like I said, I would be willing to put up the web
> >>>  > space, unless someone else has a better deal
> >>>  > (static IP with in-house server and OC3 maybe?).
> >>>
> >>>  Hmmm.. This is something that the webteam will have to
> >>>  agree on. Keeping the website on SF would make it
> >>>  accessible to all would be sf developers. The other
> >>>  things that comes to mind when moving to another ISP
> >>>  is the ability of the propiety ISP to provide backups,
> >>>  24x7 support, etc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  > As for PR, you're right Leif. We should compile a
> >>>  > comprehensive list for release all at once, slightly
> >>>  > before launch.
> >>>
> >>>  I also like this PR idea. I think it's well needed.
> >>>
> >>>  --
> >>>  Raymond Irving
> >>>
> >>>  > Christopher D. Kissinger
> >>>  >
> >>>  > >>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>  > >>>  From: dyn...@li...
> >>>  > [mailto:dynapi-dev-
> >>>  > >>>  ad...@li...] On Behalf Of Leif
> >>>  > W
> >>>  > >>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:53 AM
> >>>  > >>>  To: dyn...@li...
> >>>  > >>>  Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting
> >>>  > Resources
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Doing a comprehensive check (DNS, web, mail),
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Also checked dynapi.net and dynapi.org, and Dan
> >>>  > Steinman has both of
> >>>  > >>>  those
> >>>  > >>>  also.  All three domains are using DynDNS for
> >>>  > their DNS, so they would
> >>>  > >>>  need
> >>>  > >>>  to be updated (i.e. to a static dns within
> >>>  > DynDNS) or changed to a
> >>>  > >>>  different
> >>>  > >>>  DNS provider.  dynapi.org and dynapi.net both
> >>>  > point to the same RCN
> >>>  > >>>  cable
> >>>  > >>>  account while dynapi.com doesn't have an IP.
> >>>  > dynapi.com, .net, and
> >>>  > >>>  .org all
> >>>  > >>>  don't hit a standard web server (i.e. port 80.)
> >>>  >  This would need
> >>>  > >>>  changing to
> >>>  > >>>  hit the webservers.  www.dynapi.org redirects
> >>>  > to
> >>>  > >>>  http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/,
> >>>  > www.dynapi.net redirects to
> >>>  > >>>  dynapi.net:82.  These would need to point to
> >>>  > the new IP.  dynapi.net
> >>>  > >>>  has an
> >>>  > >>>  MX record pointing to dynapi.net with a mail
> >>>  > server listening, while
> >>>  > >>>  dynapi.com and dynapi.org have no MX records.
> >>>  > If we're going to set up
> >>>  > >>>  mail
> >>>  > >>>  capabilities (accounts or simply forwards) on a
> >>>  > new server, MX records
> >>>  > >>>  would
> >>>  > >>>  also have to be added/updated.
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  As far as the advertisement aspect goes, I'd
> >>>  > volunteer as the primary
> >>>  > >>>  contact, and if anyone has suggestions or
> >>>  > instructions about where to
> >>>  > >>>  go,
> >>>  > >>>  who to contact, how to make submissions to
> >>>  > other places, I'd be able to
> >>>  > >>>  do
> >>>  > >>>  that to help spread the word of the project.
> >>>  > Would probably want to
> >>>  > >>>  get
> >>>  > >>>  some of that started a little before the
> >>>  > release of the new site and
> >>>  > >>>  the
> >>>  > >>>  post-beta of the DynAPI.
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Leif
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>>  > >>>  From: "C Kissinger"
> >>>  > <cki...@ne...>
> >>>  > >>>  To: <dyn...@li...>
> >>>  > >>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:35 AM
> >>>  > >>>  Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting
> >>>  > Resources
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  A quick WHOIS on netsol.com says that
> >>>  > dynapi.com
> >>>  > >>>  is registered to Dan Steinman.
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Dan, what do you think about your dynapi.com
> >>>  > domain for this?
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  What do the rest of you think about dynapi.com?
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  I have extra (unlimited) hosting space for 4
> >>>  > more domains, I
> >>>  > >>>  could offer the web space for it.
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  I too think that it would be a good idea for
> >>>  > everyone willing to assist
> >>>  > >>>  in PRing to do so as there are hundreds
> >>>  > (thousands) of places to
> >>>  > >>>  advertise
> >>>  > >>>  excellent new software such as this:
> >>>  > >>>  devedge.netscape.com
> >>>  > >>>  forums.mozillazine.org
> >>>  > >>>  javascript.com and the internet.com consortium
> >>>  > >>>  press releases
> >>>  > >>>  maybe get Danny Goodman of the JavaScript
> >>>  > Bible's fame interested
> >>>  > >>>  Slashdot
> >>>  > >>>  javascript.about.com
> >>>  > >>>  not to mention the search engines and
> >>>  > directories
> >>>  > >>>  (am I getting carried away?)
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Maybe fly the idea by the group first, and
> >>>  > compile an approved list
> >>>  > >>>  with any
> >>>  > >>>  supporting materials/content for a PR rep to
> >>>  > submit.
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  Chris Kissinger
> >>>  > >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  From:
> >>>  > dyn...@li...
> >>>  > [mailto:dynapi-dev-
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  ad...@li...] On Behalf Of
> >>>  > Daniel Tiru
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:46 PM
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  To: dyn...@li...
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript
> >>>  > Scripting Resources
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Hi mate!
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  I think i get your point... Maybee we can
> >>>  > discuss sutch matters in
> >>>  > >>>  the
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  project for the new dynAPI system aswell?
> >>>  > On how to link or sutch
> >>>  > >>>  and
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  who shall be responsible? I think all can
> >>>  > be responsible but, it
> >>>  > >>>  might
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  be good to talk about it first as you
> >>>  > think(?) But those kinds of
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  requests maybee should be possible for
> >>>  > everyone to make.
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Besides that... I think for the whole we
> >>>  > should only link to the
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  "website" and not the sf site when we have
> >>>  > the new site up.
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Regards
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Daniel
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  -----Original Message-----
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  From:
> >>>  > dyn...@li...
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> >>>  > Behalf Of Leif
> >>>  > >>>  W
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Sent: den 2 september 2003 20:29
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  To: DynAPI-Dev
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] JavaScript Scripting
> >>>  > Resources
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  On the "JavaScript Scripting Resources"
> >>>  > page (
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  http://mozilla.org/js/scripting/) on the
> >>>  > mozilla.org site, there's
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  still a link to Dan Steinman's DynAPI 1
> >>>  > (DynDuo).  We should
> >>>  > >>>  probably
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  have DynAPI's SourceForge link on such
> >>>  > pages, to generate more
> >>>  > >>>  traffic.
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  There's an email address at the bottom of
> >>>  > this particular page for
> >>>  > >>>  a
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  Robert Ginda <rginda [at] netscape (dot)
> >>>  > com>.  Do we have an
> >>>  > >>>  "official
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  contact" to handle such "PR" type stuff?
> >>>  > I thought of shooting
> >>>  > >>>  off a
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  quick email but realized I may not speak
> >>>  > for the entire group, if
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  people
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  think it's a good idea.  Also, as an
> >>>  > entity, it may be confusing
> >>>  > >>>  to
> >>>  > >>>  >>>  others unless there's a single person the
> >>>  > outside
> >>>  === message truncated ===
> >>>
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