RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Homepage

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Not that the site will need a whole lot of server-side
processing, I'm guessing, but I can assist with ASP if
we go with the outside hosting route. Although a lengthy
rehash of the SourceForge docs says...

From: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1

"The SourceForge.net project web servers all run Linux
in conjunction with the Apache web server software. Also
provided are the PHP scripting language suite and access
to MySQL database services."

"Server-side scripting languages, such as PHP, perl, and
python, give projects the means to..."

"The SourceForge.net Compile Farm may be used to compile
C-based and C++-based CGI scripts. Both the perl and python
scripting languages are supported for CGI scripting purposes."

"MySQL database services are provided, upon request, to all
projects hosted on SourceForge.net."

So there is power already at the disposal of those allowed to
sign up for the developers group.

Christopher Kissinger

>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>  From: dyn...@li... 
>>>  [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Leif W
>>>  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:20 PM
>>>  To: dyn...@li...
>>>  Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Homepage
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  PHP all the way.  It's free technology, it's powerful, easy to use,
>>>  ubiquitous scripting language, with MySQL support.  Perl 
>>>  is powerful also,
>>>  arguably more powerful with all the fancy modules 
>>>  available, but maybe
>>>  slightly less easy to script in.  DB, if any, MySQL again, 
>>>  as it's powerful,
>>>  fast, easy to use, and I know it a little (ok moderate - I 
>>>  never used
>>>  phpMyAdmin, I do it all by hand).  :-)  If we're just 
>>>  having an occasional
>>>  poll, don't see an immediate strong need for SQL at all, 
>>>  could just be
>>>  flat-file text or some binary hash DB or something.  For 
>>>  scalability (if we
>>>  start with a non-SQL format and later want to import all 
>>>  the old data to
>>>  SQL), it would be wise to take a small amount of time to 
>>>  document the file
>>>  format and write a little SQL converter.  However, I've 
>>>  had experience with
>>>  C code and a custom binary DB format, and I successfully 
>>>  extracted the data
>>>  using both Perl and PHP (it was trivial to convert the 
>>>  Perl script to PHP),
>>>  and once the data is extracted it's again trivial to wrap 
>>>  it in some plain
>>>  text SQL file.  While we're at it, Apache should be the 
>>>  server, as it's more
>>>  secure, free, widely known and used.  Finally, again, for 
>>>  those not familiar
>>>  or comfortable with PHP, I highly reccomend their manual.  
>>>  There's a CHM (M$
>>>  compiled HTML format) manual which I tend to leave open on 
>>>  my desktop, as
>>>  it's easy to search, and full of good info.  There's also 
>>>  any number of
>>>  books available on programming with PHP and MySQL.  I've 
>>>  got a few PDF
>>>  copies lying around...  And of course I'd be happy to try 
>>>  and answer any
>>>  questions, or there's probably a support mailing list or 
>>>  forum too, which
>>>  are a wealth of information.
>>>  
>>>  About having a site off SF, I see no problem, as long as 
>>>  we can have some
>>>  automation of the mirroring, for backup and redundancy (in 
>>>  addition to
>>>  Apache, PHP4 and 5 when it's stable, MySQL and secure FTP 
>>>  access).  Just add
>>>  a "mirrors" link, or simply links to both sites on the first page.
>>>  
>>>  Leif
>>>  
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>  To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:16 AM
>>>  Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] RE: [Dynapi-Help] Homepage
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  >
>>>  > For database we could use either MySQL or SQLite
>>>  > (www.sqlite.org)
>>>  >
>>>  > For server-side coding I would go for php as their are
>>>  > many php developers and site manager softwares
>>>  > available.
>>>  >
>>>  > Personally I like and know ASP, but that might not be
>>>  > the best choice.
>>>  >
>>>  > If we plan on moving the homepage to anothe ISP we
>>>  > could ask the provider to use the latest verion of php
>>>  > so we could use phpwebsites, etc
>>>  >
>>>  > The current homepage could be used as a mirror.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > --
>>>  > Raymond Irving
>>>  >
>>>  > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>>>  > > Yes... We dont need a database for that either :)
>>>  > >
>>>  > > But i feel like it will be quite "dull" to have the
>>>  > > member directory and
>>>  > > those kinds of stuff in textfiles..
>>>  > >
>>>  > > But however...the question was about programming
>>>  > > language and not
>>>  > > databases or not :)
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Regards
>>>  > > Daniel
>>>  > >
>>>  > > -----Original Message-----
>>>  > > From: dyn...@li...
>>>  > > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
>>>  > > Behalf Of Cristian
>>>  > > Grigoriu
>>>  > > Sent: den 4 september 2003 20:10
>>>  > > To: dyn...@li...
>>>  > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Homepage
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > > > How should we do with polls and sutch if its not
>>>  > > database driven?
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Well, that's what I meant by "whenever possible".
>>>  > > However, for a poll we
>>>  > > still don't need a database backend :) but we
>>>  > > definitely need a
>>>  > > server-side scripting technology.
>>>  > >
>>>  > > > Daniel
>>>  > >
>>>  > > Grig
>>>  > >
>>>  > > > > What programming language do you think we should
>>>  > > use for the
>>>  > > > > development of the homepage? Should we vote or
>>>  > > do we have
>>>  > > > any options?
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > Since our website is not database-driven I think
>>>  > > we should stay away
>>>  > > > from server-side scripting whenever possible.
>>>  > > Otherwise, I would
>>>  > > > suggest PHP considering it's Open Source and
>>>  > > portable.
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > > What do you say?
>>>  > > > > Regards
>>>  > > > > Daniel
>>>  > > >
>>>  > > > Grig
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
>>>  > >
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