Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi

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Hello,

As it has became clear allready (I think) we are doing this logo project for 
free. DynAPI has it's value for us.

- Juho Risku / Helmi Staff
  http://www.visualway.com/helmi

>From: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>
>To: <dyn...@li...>
>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
>Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:33:37 -0400
>
>Raymond.
>Can you see things from my perspective?
>I'm sitting here reading the list when some company I've never heard of
>before (there was no mention of the editor) say's "we've been asked to..."
>And yet there was _NO_ mention of it in the list. Having had some 
>experience
>with several open source projects. Also some experienece with protecting
>DynAPI from one or more commercial entity I have worked with.. ( "Can't we
>just rename it and sell it with the product?" ) I am naturally defensive
>when out of the blue, what seems to me to be a graphic design company says,
>"we've been asked to.." I was simply wondering who had asked them. If there
>had been som warning of this, I would most certainly not have jumped to the
>conclusions I had.
>
>As I had assumed they where a graphic design company, I didn't think it
>likly that they would be doing this for free. Therfore the question
>remained: Who was paying for someone to design a logo for DynAPI? Did some
>corporation somewhere think they where going to buy, or package DynAPI? IF
>so, WHO?!?
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>To: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>;
><dyn...@li...>
>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
>
>
> >
> > --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> > > Who asked your company to design a logo for DynAPI
> > > 3?
> >
> > I did
> >
> > > And why? Did it not occur to them that we may
> > > already have on eo tmore
> > > logos?
> >
> > Well I far as I can see there weren't any logos
> > displayed on the dynapi website or used in the distros
> > (I stand corrected). Juhu's company is developing a
> > WYSIWYG editor that uses DynAPI for client-side object
> > creation. They've invested some time into research,
> > designs, etc. On such basis I said why not get some
> > new logo ideas? So I asked him to scheduled some of
> > hos graphic designers, programmers to aid with the
> > development of the API, etc. I don't see anything
> > wrong with new ideas? And it would be even better if a
> > lot more companies would see the benefits of the API.
> >
> > > Does your company simply have no respect for
> > > open-source software?
> >
> > A proposal for new logos designs does not violate the
> > principles of open-source software. I personally asked
> > him to design the logos and then post them to the
> > group to get their feedback on the new ideas.
> >
> > > Just wondering.
> > >
> > > Don't take this too harshly, but it seems  a bit
> > > strange that your company
> > > was
> > > "asked to design a logo" for this open-source
> > > project, when yet there has
> > > been to mention of this to the actuall developers of
> > > the project. It would
> > > seem to me that this is somewhat similar to asking
> > > your neighbor what color
> > > they want their house painted- when they do not even
> > > know you intend to
> > > paint their house.
> >
> > Not so at all. Sometime ago Jordi posted a link of
> > what was considered a new design for the DynAPI web
> > site. Up to this day I've not heard anything more
> > about it. Many of the past developers are either just
> > watching the list or just don't care anymore! There is
> > only a few of us left, so I think it it would be cool
> > if we can get some _new_ ideas, _new_ designs and even
> > a _new_ website.
> > IMO there's nothing wrong with a proposal. What if
> > someone should approach you and said I think your
> > house would look better if it was colored in blue and
> > white? But before they can even approach you they
> > would first have to design you a model of the house
> > painted in blue and white.
> >
> > > If someone from the Project has indeed approched you
> > > then I will appologize
> > > immediatly.
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joy Ride" <joy...@ho...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:21 PM
> > > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Our company was asked to design logo for DynAPI3.
> > > I tried to post PDF
> > > > containing logo suggestions for DynAPI3 designed
> > > by our company. It didn't
> > > > go trough. Here is a link to PDF files containing
> > > logos.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.visualway.com/helmi/download/dynapi.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Few comments about the PDF.
> > > >
> > > > 1) We have taken fairly traditional approach in to
> > > logo design. --> The
> > > > results are somewhat corporative. One of the goals
> > > was credibility and
> > > > looking "large" gives propably some.
> > > > 2) Design approach is taken partly because we
> > > wanted to maximize the
> > > > usability of logo. These ones can be used in
> > > websites, prints and online
> > > > manuals easily (3D ones forinstance may not work
> > > in prints).
> > > > 2) Most of the logos employ red as the main color.
> > > The reason is red is
> > > > understood as color of technology, but it is not
> > > that much used as blue
> > > is.
> > > > 3) Our designer favors logos on first page. My
> > > personal favorites are 2
> > > and
> > > > 4.
> > > >
> > > > So I would appreciate any comments. Is there a one
> > > we could use as DynAPI
> > > > logo from nowon? Votes?
> > > >
> > > >
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