Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Well I understand and I'm sorry for not firstly
informing the group of this idea. It's just that I
like change and I have a vision of what DynAPI can
become... the next Windows (not Microsoft) of the web.
Well, that might sound far fetched but it's a dream!


--
Raymond Irving


--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> Raymond.
> Can you see things from my perspective?
> I'm sitting here reading the list when some company
> I've never heard of
> before (there was no mention of the editor) say's
> "we've been asked to..."
> And yet there was _NO_ mention of it in the list.
> Having had some experience
> with several open source projects. Also some
> experienece with protecting
> DynAPI from one or more commercial entity I have
> worked with.. ( "Can't we
> just rename it and sell it with the product?" ) I am
> naturally defensive
> when out of the blue, what seems to me to be a
> graphic design company says,
> "we've been asked to.." I was simply wondering who
> had asked them. If there
> had been som warning of this, I would most certainly
> not have jumped to the
> conclusions I had.
> 
> As I had assumed they where a graphic design
> company, I didn't think it
> likly that they would be doing this for free.
> Therfore the question
> remained: Who was paying for someone to design a
> logo for DynAPI? Did some
> corporation somewhere think they where going to buy,
> or package DynAPI? IF
> so, WHO?!?
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>;
> <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
> 
> 
> >
> > --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> wrote:
> > > Who asked your company to design a logo for
> DynAPI
> > > 3?
> >
> > I did
> >
> > > And why? Did it not occur to them that we may
> > > already have on eo tmore
> > > logos?
> >
> > Well I far as I can see there weren't any logos
> > displayed on the dynapi website or used in the
> distros
> > (I stand corrected). Juhu's company is developing
> a
> > WYSIWYG editor that uses DynAPI for client-side
> object
> > creation. They've invested some time into
> research,
> > designs, etc. On such basis I said why not get
> some
> > new logo ideas? So I asked him to scheduled some
> of
> > hos graphic designers, programmers to aid with the
> > development of the API, etc. I don't see anything
> > wrong with new ideas? And it would be even better
> if a
> > lot more companies would see the benefits of the
> API.
> >
> > > Does your company simply have no respect for
> > > open-source software?
> >
> > A proposal for new logos designs does not violate
> the
> > principles of open-source software. I personally
> asked
> > him to design the logos and then post them to the
> > group to get their feedback on the new ideas.
> >
> > > Just wondering.
> > >
> > > Don't take this too harshly, but it seems  a bit
> > > strange that your company
> > > was
> > > "asked to design a logo" for this open-source
> > > project, when yet there has
> > > been to mention of this to the actuall
> developers of
> > > the project. It would
> > > seem to me that this is somewhat similar to
> asking
> > > your neighbor what color
> > > they want their house painted- when they do not
> even
> > > know you intend to
> > > paint their house.
> >
> > Not so at all. Sometime ago Jordi posted a link of
> > what was considered a new design for the DynAPI
> web
> > site. Up to this day I've not heard anything more
> > about it. Many of the past developers are either
> just
> > watching the list or just don't care anymore!
> There is
> > only a few of us left, so I think it it would be
> cool
> > if we can get some _new_ ideas, _new_ designs and
> even
> > a _new_ website.
> > IMO there's nothing wrong with a proposal. What if
> > someone should approach you and said I think your
> > house would look better if it was colored in blue
> and
> > white? But before they can even approach you they
> > would first have to design you a model of the
> house
> > painted in blue and white.
> >
> > > If someone from the Project has indeed approched
> you
> > > then I will appologize
> > > immediatly.
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joy Ride" <joy...@ho...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:21 PM
> > > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Our company was asked to design logo for
> DynAPI3.
> > > I tried to post PDF
> > > > containing logo suggestions for DynAPI3
> designed
> > > by our company. It didn't
> > > > go trough. Here is a link to PDF files
> containing
> > > logos.
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.visualway.com/helmi/download/dynapi.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Few comments about the PDF.
> > > >
> > > > 1) We have taken fairly traditional approach
> in to
> > > logo design. --> The
> > > > results are somewhat corporative. One of the
> goals
> > > was credibility and
> > > > looking "large" gives propably some.
> > > > 2) Design approach is taken partly because we
> > > wanted to maximize the
> > > > usability of logo. These ones can be used in
> > > websites, prints and online
> > > > manuals easily (3D ones forinstance may not
> work
> > > in prints).
> > > > 2) Most of the logos employ red as the main
> color.
> > > The reason is red is
> > > > understood as color of technology, but it is
> not
> > > that much used as blue
> > > is.
> > > > 3) Our designer favors logos on first page. My
> > > personal favorites are 2
> > > and
> > > > 4.
> > > >
> > > > So I would appreciate any comments. Is there a
> one
> > > we could use as DynAPI
> > > > logo from nowon? Votes?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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