Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Raymond.
Can you see things from my perspective?
I'm sitting here reading the list when some company I've never heard of
before (there was no mention of the editor) say's "we've been asked to..."
And yet there was _NO_ mention of it in the list. Having had some experience
with several open source projects. Also some experienece with protecting
DynAPI from one or more commercial entity I have worked with.. ( "Can't we
just rename it and sell it with the product?" ) I am naturally defensive
when out of the blue, what seems to me to be a graphic design company says,
"we've been asked to.." I was simply wondering who had asked them. If there
had been som warning of this, I would most certainly not have jumped to the
conclusions I had.

As I had assumed they where a graphic design company, I didn't think it
likly that they would be doing this for free. Therfore the question
remained: Who was paying for someone to design a logo for DynAPI? Did some
corporation somewhere think they where going to buy, or package DynAPI? IF
so, WHO?!?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "Doug Melvin" <do...@cr...>;
<dyn...@li...>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi


>
> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> > Who asked your company to design a logo for DynAPI
> > 3?
>
> I did
>
> > And why? Did it not occur to them that we may
> > already have on eo tmore
> > logos?
>
> Well I far as I can see there weren't any logos
> displayed on the dynapi website or used in the distros
> (I stand corrected). Juhu's company is developing a
> WYSIWYG editor that uses DynAPI for client-side object
> creation. They've invested some time into research,
> designs, etc. On such basis I said why not get some
> new logo ideas? So I asked him to scheduled some of
> hos graphic designers, programmers to aid with the
> development of the API, etc. I don't see anything
> wrong with new ideas? And it would be even better if a
> lot more companies would see the benefits of the API.
>
> > Does your company simply have no respect for
> > open-source software?
>
> A proposal for new logos designs does not violate the
> principles of open-source software. I personally asked
> him to design the logos and then post them to the
> group to get their feedback on the new ideas.
>
> > Just wondering.
> >
> > Don't take this too harshly, but it seems  a bit
> > strange that your company
> > was
> > "asked to design a logo" for this open-source
> > project, when yet there has
> > been to mention of this to the actuall developers of
> > the project. It would
> > seem to me that this is somewhat similar to asking
> > your neighbor what color
> > they want their house painted- when they do not even
> > know you intend to
> > paint their house.
>
> Not so at all. Sometime ago Jordi posted a link of
> what was considered a new design for the DynAPI web
> site. Up to this day I've not heard anything more
> about it. Many of the past developers are either just
> watching the list or just don't care anymore! There is
> only a few of us left, so I think it it would be cool
> if we can get some _new_ ideas, _new_ designs and even
> a _new_ website.
> IMO there's nothing wrong with a proposal. What if
> someone should approach you and said I think your
> house would look better if it was colored in blue and
> white? But before they can even approach you they
> would first have to design you a model of the house
> painted in blue and white.
>
> > If someone from the Project has indeed approched you
> > then I will appologize
> > immediatly.
> >
> > Anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joy Ride" <joy...@ho...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:21 PM
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Logos for dynapi
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Our company was asked to design logo for DynAPI3.
> > I tried to post PDF
> > > containing logo suggestions for DynAPI3 designed
> > by our company. It didn't
> > > go trough. Here is a link to PDF files containing
> > logos.
> > >
> > > http://www.visualway.com/helmi/download/dynapi.pdf
> > >
> > > Few comments about the PDF.
> > >
> > > 1) We have taken fairly traditional approach in to
> > logo design. --> The
> > > results are somewhat corporative. One of the goals
> > was credibility and
> > > looking "large" gives propably some.
> > > 2) Design approach is taken partly because we
> > wanted to maximize the
> > > usability of logo. These ones can be used in
> > websites, prints and online
> > > manuals easily (3D ones forinstance may not work
> > in prints).
> > > 2) Most of the logos employ red as the main color.
> > The reason is red is
> > > understood as color of technology, but it is not
> > that much used as blue
> > is.
> > > 3) Our designer favors logos on first page. My
> > personal favorites are 2
> > and
> > > 4.
> > >
> > > So I would appreciate any comments. Is there a one
> > we could use as DynAPI
> > > logo from nowon? Votes?
> > >
> > >
> >
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