dynapi-widgetdev

[DynAPI-WidgetDev] HTMLWidgets and drag-drop question

[A P <the...@gm...>]

Hi All ,

I have been playing with the latest 3.0 beta and am highly impressed !
I would like to use DynAPI Objects to create a online IDE for basic
Page layout design...
I am sure there are some there but there are too complex for what I am
trying to do.

My question is : Can I use the  HTML* Widgets *outside* the TemplateManager=
 ?

I dont want to create a template . All I want is a layer on which I
can drag and drop the HTML* widgets on to it.
Basically I want to create a "pallette" of few HTML Widgets (
textbox,dropdowns,buttons etc)
and then drag-drop them onto a "workspace" layer.

Hence , there wont be any TemplateManager. Is this supported ? Can I
do this without using any template ? My next question is : is
drag&drop supported with these HTML* widgets ?

Otherwise I will have to create my own version of the HTML Widgets
using DynLayers...hate to start from there as there is such a good
library present. :-)

What I am trying to achieve is a very basic HTML Page builder where a
user can drag a HTML widget on the workspace and edit the properties..
This will be later used for code generation to generate the backend
code for any UI framework..

thanks for any suggestions..
Pat

Re: [DynAPI-WidgetDev] HTMLWidgets and drag-drop question

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

> From: "A P" <the...@gm...>
> Sent: 2005 November 14 Monday 18:19
>

> Hi All ,
>
> I have been playing with the latest 3.0 beta and am highly impressed !
> I would like to use DynAPI Objects to create a online IDE for basic
> Page layout design...
> I am sure there are some there but there are too complex for what I am
> trying to do.
>
> My question is : Can I use the  HTML* Widgets *outside* the 
> TemplateManager ?

Hmm, I check in dynapi/src/ext/packages.js and don't see any 
dependencies.  I double check in dynapi/examples/ and I don't see any 
dependencies, except for the "Image Frame" example.  My wild guess is 
that they're independent.  But try it and see!

> I dont want to create a template . All I want is a layer on which I
> can drag and drop the HTML* widgets on to it.
> Basically I want to create a "pallette" of few HTML Widgets (
> textbox,dropdowns,buttons etc)
> and then drag-drop them onto a "workspace" layer.
>
> Hence , there wont be any TemplateManager. Is this supported ? Can I
> do this without using any template ? My next question is : is
> drag&drop supported with these HTML* widgets ?

Hmm, well, widgets are objects, create instances, tweak properties, ok. 
But to get back the source?  Hmm.  Since you're trying something new, 
make it a new widget built upon existing widgets.  Your Pallette widget 
might be the interface, with buttons or menu options to create and 
destroy instances of other objects.  And the workspace area is where you 
can combine elements, configure, and I am guessing that eventually 
you'll want to export things.

> Otherwise I will have to create my own version of the HTML Widgets
> using DynLayers...hate to start from there as there is such a good
> library present. :-)
>
> What I am trying to achieve is a very basic HTML Page builder where a
> user can drag a HTML widget on the workspace and edit the properties..
> This will be later used for code generation to generate the backend
> code for any UI framework..

It sounds like an interesting idea!  Try some things, one step at a 
time, and build upon that.  If you get something satisfactory, share it.

> thanks for any suggestions..
> Pat

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Leif

Fwd: [DynAPI-WidgetDev] HTMLWidgets and drag-drop question

[A P <the...@gm...>]

hopefully this time it will get posted !

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: A P <the...@gm...>
Date: Nov 15, 2005 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [DynAPI-WidgetDev] HTMLWidgets and drag-drop question
To: dyn...@li...


Hi Leif ,

thanks for replying....
I think I *am* subsribed to the list...thats where I have addressed
this ..and the manual request also threw me off...dont know what
happened...
Anyway , I hope this one goes thru !

Regarding your suggestions :
1) yes..I did try it out :-) ...but did not work for me.
According to this document :
http://www.enomaly.net/dynapi/docs/docs/examples.htmlcomponents.html

this may or may not work..
I tried adding a HTMLButton as to the document directly but it dit not work=
..

I guess I will spend some time on this...else I will work out some
basic widgets myself
and see if I can drag&Drop them on my workspace layer

thanks
Pat


On 11/14/05, Leif W <war...@us...> wrote:
> > From: "A P" <the...@gm...>
> > Sent: 2005 November 14 Monday 18:19
> >
>
> > Hi All ,
> >
> > I have been playing with the latest 3.0 beta and am highly impressed !
> > I would like to use DynAPI Objects to create a online IDE for basic
> > Page layout design...
> > I am sure there are some there but there are too complex for what I am
> > trying to do.
> >
> > My question is : Can I use the  HTML* Widgets *outside* the
> > TemplateManager ?
>
> Hmm, I check in dynapi/src/ext/packages.js and don't see any
> dependencies.  I double check in dynapi/examples/ and I don't see any
> dependencies, except for the "Image Frame" example.  My wild guess is
> that they're independent.  But try it and see!
>
> > I dont want to create a template . All I want is a layer on which I
> > can drag and drop the HTML* widgets on to it.
> > Basically I want to create a "pallette" of few HTML Widgets (
> > textbox,dropdowns,buttons etc)
> > and then drag-drop them onto a "workspace" layer.
> >
> > Hence , there wont be any TemplateManager. Is this supported ? Can I
> > do this without using any template ? My next question is : is
> > drag&drop supported with these HTML* widgets ?
>
> Hmm, well, widgets are objects, create instances, tweak properties, ok.
> But to get back the source?  Hmm.  Since you're trying something new,
> make it a new widget built upon existing widgets.  Your Pallette widget
> might be the interface, with buttons or menu options to create and
> destroy instances of other objects.  And the workspace area is where you
> can combine elements, configure, and I am guessing that eventually
> you'll want to export things.
>
> > Otherwise I will have to create my own version of the HTML Widgets
> > using DynLayers...hate to start from there as there is such a good
> > library present. :-)
> >
> > What I am trying to achieve is a very basic HTML Page builder where a
> > user can drag a HTML widget on the workspace and edit the properties..
> > This will be later used for code generation to generate the backend
> > code for any UI framework..
>
> It sounds like an interesting idea!  Try some things, one step at a
> time, and build upon that.  If you get something satisfactory, share it.
>
> > thanks for any suggestions..
> > Pat
>
> Subscribe to the list, so your posts do not get delayed by manual
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> hundred spams.  ;-)
>
>
> Leif
>
>
>
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Re: [DynAPI-WidgetDev] HTMLWidgets and drag-drop question

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

> From: "A P" <the...@gm...>
> Sent: 2005 November 15 Tuesday 00:39
>

> hopefully this time it will get posted !

Posted without any intervention!  I discarded the other that is 
contained herein.

>> From: A P <the...@gm...>
>> Date: Nov 15, 2005 12:26 AM

>> 1) yes..I did try it out :-) ...but did not work for me.
>> According to this document :
>> http://www.enomaly.net/dynapi/docs/docs/examples.htmlcomponents.html

We keep a copy of the releases at 
http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/releases/ and also the CVS version 
(dynapi3x).  Current is 3.0.0-beta2.

>> this may or may not work..
>> I tried adding a HTMLButton as to the document directly but it dit 
>> not work..
>>
>> I guess I will spend some time on this...else I will work out some
>> basic widgets myself
>> and see if I can drag&Drop them on my workspace layer

Sorry I'm not much help at the moment.  I'm doing some major drive and 
data shuffling at home this week, so I can't readily access anything for 
tests.  I hope to be done with data migration today and begin OS setup 
and have that working tommorrow.  But we'll see.


Leif