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RE: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one point
in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant solution
was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
not...

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
To: DynAPI Help
Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars


Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
post it here as well.

Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page? 

Thanks,
ben

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RE: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Jack_Speranza <jsp...@gr...>]

Yeah... there's never an easy answer (or so it seems :-)  My answer to this
problem was to create some static visual content that at least made it
half-way acceptable for there to be blank space at the bottom of the page
(colorful margin layers, footers, etc.).  Until I become more familiar with
web development (a new career for me...), inelegant solutions look like they
will be a part of life... (is it too optomistic for me to think they will
ever disappear?)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:12 PM
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars


It's helpful in that now I know *where* to start looking for a
solution.  I was hoping that there might be an elegant DynAPI way of
doing this.  My problem is that I'm creating a series of dynlayers whose
height is determined by their HTML content... which isn't determined
until after load time.  At the very least, I can create a "worst
possible scenario" page size using some static content, but then my page
will end up with a lot of blank space at the end :(

ben

Jack_Speranza wrote:
> 
> I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one
point
> in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
> it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
> dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
> some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant
solution
> was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
> going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
> not...
> 
> Jack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
> To: DynAPI Help
> Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars
> 
> Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
> gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
> post it here as well.
> 
> Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
> page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
> browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
> nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page?
> 
> Thanks,
> ben
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Re: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...>]

I think Jack's correct.  An empty DynLayer in NS has no "document
height" or width until you actually add content to it.

As an aside, what I think is interesting is I am always trying to do the
opposite: turn the scrollbars *off* in IE.  When I have an IE layer with
content that exceeds it's clip area, I get browser scrollbars when the
hidden content extends off the visible page.  I hate that!

scottandrew


Jack_Speranza wrote:
> 
> I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one point
> in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
> it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
> dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
> some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant solution
> was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
> going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
> not...
> 
> Jack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
> To: DynAPI Help
> Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars
> 
> Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
> gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
> post it here as well.
> 
> Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
> page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
> browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
> nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page?
> 
> Thanks,
> ben
> 
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> Ben Sargent
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Re: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Ben S. <ben...@tr...>]

It's helpful in that now I know *where* to start looking for a
solution.  I was hoping that there might be an elegant DynAPI way of
doing this.  My problem is that I'm creating a series of dynlayers whose
height is determined by their HTML content... which isn't determined
until after load time.  At the very least, I can create a "worst
possible scenario" page size using some static content, but then my page
will end up with a lot of blank space at the end :(

ben

Jack_Speranza wrote:
> 
> I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one point
> in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
> it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
> dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
> some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant solution
> was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
> going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
> not...
> 
> Jack
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
> To: DynAPI Help
> Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars
> 
> Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
> gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
> post it here as well.
> 
> Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
> page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
> browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
> nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page?
> 
> Thanks,
> ben
-- 
Ben Sargent
Montage eIntegration Inc.
www.montage.ca
GFX: www.infinitespaces.com
PGP: /pgpkey.txt

Re: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Jordi M. <jmi...@or...>]

The presence of scrollbars in Netscape is calculated once using the document.width
/ document.height values. Once the page has been reloaded, these properties can be
set by your scripts in order to make the scrollbars appear. The only problem is
that this can only be done ONCE. Further modifications will be simply ignored. I
don't know the reason for such behaviour.

Hope this helps

Ben Sargent wrote:

> It's helpful in that now I know *where* to start looking for a
> solution.  I was hoping that there might be an elegant DynAPI way of
> doing this.  My problem is that I'm creating a series of dynlayers whose
> height is determined by their HTML content... which isn't determined
> until after load time.  At the very least, I can create a "worst
> possible scenario" page size using some static content, but then my page
> will end up with a lot of blank space at the end :(
>
> ben
>
> Jack_Speranza wrote:
> >
> > I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one point
> > in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
> > it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
> > dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
> > some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant solution
> > was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
> > going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
> > not...
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
> > To: DynAPI Help
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars
> >
> > Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
> > gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
> > post it here as well.
> >
> > Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
> > page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
> > browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
> > nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ben
> --
> Ben Sargent
> Montage eIntegration Inc.
> www.montage.ca
> GFX: www.infinitespaces.com
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Re: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars

[Ben S. <ben...@tr...>]

All hail Jordi, King of the Netscape "feature" work-arounds!

that rocks... 

ben

Jordi Ministral wrote:
> 
> The presence of scrollbars in Netscape is calculated once using the document.width
> / document.height values. Once the page has been reloaded, these properties can be
> set by your scripts in order to make the scrollbars appear. The only problem is
> that this can only be done ONCE. Further modifications will be simply ignored. I
> don't know the reason for such behaviour.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Ben Sargent wrote:
> 
> > It's helpful in that now I know *where* to start looking for a
> > solution.  I was hoping that there might be an elegant DynAPI way of
> > doing this.  My problem is that I'm creating a series of dynlayers whose
> > height is determined by their HTML content... which isn't determined
> > until after load time.  At the very least, I can create a "worst
> > possible scenario" page size using some static content, but then my page
> > will end up with a lot of blank space at the end :(
> >
> > ben
> >
> > Jack_Speranza wrote:
> > >
> > > I encountered this same problem, and I believe it was addressed at one point
> > > in the sourceForge forums (buried deep somewhere by now!). As I understand
> > > it, because of the way Netscape operates, it won't provide scrollbars for
> > > dynamic layers that appear outside of the visible window (unless there is
> > > some static content that is in the same area).  My rather inelegant solution
> > > was to make sure there was some "invisible" static content wherever I was
> > > going to be placing my dynLayers.  Don't know if you find this helpful or
> > > not...
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ben Sargent [mailto:ben...@tr...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 11:10 AM
> > > To: DynAPI Help
> > > Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Big Layers & Netscape Scollbars
> > >
> > > Hello.  I posted this to the forums a few days ago, but it may have
> > > gotten lost in the mailing-list shuffle, so hopefully nobody minds if I
> > > post it here as well.
> > >
> > > Basically, I want to create several large layers one after another on a
> > > page. However, once the layers (or group of layers) get larger than the
> > > browser height, Netscape doesn't provide me with scrollbars. IE is very
> > > nice about this. How do I get Netscape to let me scroll down my page?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ben
> > --

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