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From: Dan W. <dy...@da...> - 2003-07-31 20:52:53
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(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) Short answer: no. It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and implement it some other way. For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be 'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to create, but... it works. Dan Willemsen On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: > I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. > > Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? > > I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have > menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the > little frame border. Is that possible? > > Thanks, > Jesse > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help -- Dan Willemsen <da...@wi...> -- Dan Willemsen <dy...@da...> |
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-07-31 22:37:22
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'm just going to make my top "frame" a php include on the page. Should work pretty simply and not have to do any tricky stuff. Jesse Dan Willemsen wrote: >(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) > >Short answer: no. > >It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and >implement it some other way. > >For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that >contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to >the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have >that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in >dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be >'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to >create, but... it works. > >Dan Willemsen > >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: > > >>I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. >> >>Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? >> >>I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have >>menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the >>little frame border. Is that possible? >> >>Thanks, >> Jesse >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>_______________________________________________ >>Dynapi-Help mailing list >>Dyn...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help >> >> |
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-08-01 02:43:14
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Crap. I was planning on just doing it as an include, but then it will go off screen when I scroll down. I forgot that's why I was using the frames in the first place. I like the load panel idea, but I'm not sure what you mean about the scrolling container. I realize the need for one, but I'm confused about setting the css on the "container". What do you mean by container? I'd appreciate if you could elaborate a little more. Jesse Dan Willemsen wrote: >(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) > >Short answer: no. > >It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and >implement it some other way. > >For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that >contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to >the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have >that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in >dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be >'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to >create, but... it works. > >Dan Willemsen > >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: > > >>I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. >> >>Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? >> >>I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have >>menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the >>little frame border. Is that possible? >> >>Thanks, >> Jesse >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>_______________________________________________ >>Dynapi-Help mailing list >>Dyn...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help >> >> |
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From: Jack C. <jac...@ne...> - 2003-08-01 02:53:17
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Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"? You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on all sites? -- Jack Chung <jac...@ne...> http://www.PerceptiveCorner.com/ On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:22:07 -0400 Jesse Vitrone <je...@6t...> wrote: > Crap. I was planning on just doing it as an include, but then it will > go off screen when I scroll down. I forgot that's why I was using the > frames in the first place. > > I like the load panel idea, but I'm not sure what you mean about the > scrolling container. I realize the need for one, but I'm confused about > setting the css on the "container". What do you mean by container? > I'd appreciate if you could elaborate a little more. > > Jesse > > Dan Willemsen wrote: > > >(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) > > > >Short answer: no. > > > >It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and > >implement it some other way. > > > >For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that > >contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to > >the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have > >that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in > >dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be > >'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to > >create, but... it works. > > > >Dan Willemsen > > > >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: > > > > > >>I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. > >> > >>Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? > >> > >>I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have > >>menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the > >>little frame border. Is that possible? > >> > >>Thanks, > >> Jesse > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Dynapi-Help mailing list > >>Dyn...@li... > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-08-01 10:15:23
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Great idea, I'll have to take a look and see how they make those work. Thanks. Jesse Jack Chung wrote: >Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"? >You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on >all sites? > > > |
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From: Armin L. <Arm...@ui...> - 2003-08-01 10:33:49
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use an iframe instead of a normal frame and put into a layer. so it schould works. armin Jack Chung schrieb: > > Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"? > You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on > all sites? > > -- > Jack Chung <jac...@ne...> > http://www.PerceptiveCorner.com/ > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:22:07 -0400 > Jesse Vitrone <je...@6t...> wrote: > > > Crap. I was planning on just doing it as an include, but then it will > > go off screen when I scroll down. I forgot that's why I was using the > > frames in the first place. > > > > I like the load panel idea, but I'm not sure what you mean about the > > scrolling container. I realize the need for one, but I'm confused about > > setting the css on the "container". What do you mean by container? > > I'd appreciate if you could elaborate a little more. > > > > Jesse > > > > Dan Willemsen wrote: > > > > >(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) > > > > > >Short answer: no. > > > > > >It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and > > >implement it some other way. > > > > > >For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that > > >contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to > > >the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have > > >that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in > > >dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be > > >'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to > > >create, but... it works. > > > > > >Dan Willemsen > > > > > >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: > > > > > > > > >>I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. > > >> > > >>Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? > > >> > > >>I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have > > >>menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the > > >>little frame border. Is that possible? > > >> > > >>Thanks, > > >> Jesse > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>------------------------------------------------------- > > >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Dynapi-Help mailing list > > >>Dyn...@li... > > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > > _______________________________________________ > > Dynapi-Help mailing list > > Dyn...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-08-01 13:33:49
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Another great idea. I forgot about iframes. I like that idea, because then I can load difference pages into the iframe without having to reload my menu on top. Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. Jesse Armin Lanzinger wrote: >use an iframe instead of a normal frame >and put into a layer. so it schould works. > >armin > >Jack Chung schrieb: > > >>Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"? >>You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on >>all sites? >> >>-- >>Jack Chung <jac...@ne...> >>http://www.PerceptiveCorner.com/ >> >>On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 22:22:07 -0400 >>Jesse Vitrone <je...@6t...> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Crap. I was planning on just doing it as an include, but then it will >>>go off screen when I scroll down. I forgot that's why I was using the >>>frames in the first place. >>> >>>I like the load panel idea, but I'm not sure what you mean about the >>>scrolling container. I realize the need for one, but I'm confused about >>>setting the css on the "container". What do you mean by container? >>>I'd appreciate if you could elaborate a little more. >>> >>>Jesse >>> >>>Dan Willemsen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>(I need to remember to use the email address subscribed to the list) >>>> >>>>Short answer: no. >>>> >>>>It might be possible if you remove that frame as an actual 'frame' and >>>>implement it some other way. >>>> >>>>For example, with dynapi, you could have the menu on a page that >>>>contains a 'container' of some sort(probably loadpanel) that expands to >>>>the width of the page and to the bottom of the browser window, and have >>>>that 'container' have a scroll bar(i don't know if you can do this in >>>>dynapi, but using css, just on the container set the css to be >>>>'overflow:auto'). Should look pretty much the same, a little harder to >>>>create, but... it works. >>>> >>>>Dan Willemsen >>>> >>>>On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 12:35, Jesse Vitrone wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I'm afraid the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. >>>>> >>>>>Is there a way to make a menu pop open and go over a frame? >>>>> >>>>>I have a little 20 pixel frame at the top of the page and I want to have >>>>>menus that pop down, but that means that they would have to pop over the >>>>>little frame border. Is that possible? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks, >>>>> Jesse >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>>>>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>>>>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>>>>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Dynapi-Help mailing list >>>>>Dyn...@li... >>>>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Dynapi-Help mailing list >>>Dyn...@li... >>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help >>> >>> >>------------------------------------------------------- >>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>_______________________________________________ >>Dynapi-Help mailing list >>Dyn...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >_______________________________________________ >Dynapi-Help mailing list >Dyn...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help > > |
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From: Dan W. <dy...@da...> - 2003-08-01 20:55:37
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The thing i don't like about these is that it will visibly 'jump' most of the time to the correct position while scrolling. The iframe idea that was mentioned by Armin is very similar to what i suggested, it is just a different (container even) way of doing it. On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 21:59, Jack Chung wrote: > Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"? > You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on > all sites? -- Dan Willemsen <dy...@da...> |
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-08-01 21:03:28
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Dan,
I know what you mean about the menu jumping, but it doesn't jump
like that if you do it right. Check out this w3 example:
http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/menus.html
A site that makes good use of it is http://texturizer.net/firebird/
Rollover the menu on the left and you'll see a "lock menu" link on the
top of the menu. Click it and scroll around. Works very well.
But, I do like the iframe solution better, since I can have my menu load
different things into the iframe without having the menu reload.
Jesse
Dan Willemsen wrote:
>The thing i don't like about these is that it will visibly 'jump' most
>of the time to the correct position while scrolling. The iframe idea
>that was mentioned by Armin is very similar to what i suggested, it is
>just a different (container even) way of doing it.
>
>On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 21:59, Jack Chung wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"?
>>You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on
>>all sites?
>>
>>
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From: Dan W. <dy...@da...> - 2003-08-01 21:13:49
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Yet: (further down on that page)
FAQ: IE 5 & 6 on Windows?
If you look at this page with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or 6 on
Windows ("WinIE5" and "WinIE6"), you'll notice that it doesn't work. At
least not with the current versions as of Sept 2002. Many people ask me
about that, so here is bit of explanation. In brief: the bug is in the
browser, not in this page.
i was showing a cross-browser example, and with the ones that work
correctly in ie, they do 'jump'
good catch though
Dan Willemsen
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:03, Jesse Vitrone wrote:
> Dan,
> I know what you mean about the menu jumping, but it doesn't jump
> like that if you do it right. Check out this w3 example:
>
> http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/menus.html
>
> A site that makes good use of it is http://texturizer.net/firebird/
> Rollover the menu on the left and you'll see a "lock menu" link on the
> top of the menu. Click it and scroll around. Works very well.
>
> But, I do like the iframe solution better, since I can have my menu load
> different things into the iframe without having the menu reload.
>
> Jesse
>
> Dan Willemsen wrote:
>
> >The thing i don't like about these is that it will visibly 'jump' most
> >of the time to the correct position while scrolling. The iframe idea
> >that was mentioned by Armin is very similar to what i suggested, it is
> >just a different (container even) way of doing it.
> >
> >On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 21:59, Jack Chung wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"?
> >>You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on
> >>all sites?
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
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> Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET.
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From: Jesse V. <je...@6t...> - 2003-08-01 22:32:35
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That's interesting, I didn't even read the whole page. I assumed that
since it worked in Firebird, it would work in IE.
I never like the menus that move because of that jumpiness. Too bad IE
has a bug that makes it not supported :(
Jesse
Dan Willemsen wrote:
>Yet: (further down on that page)
>
> FAQ: IE 5 & 6 on Windows?
>If you look at this page with Microsoft Internet Explorer 5 or 6 on
>Windows ("WinIE5" and "WinIE6"), you'll notice that it doesn't work. At
>least not with the current versions as of Sept 2002. Many people ask me
>about that, so here is bit of explanation. In brief: the bug is in the
>browser, not in this page.
>
>i was showing a cross-browser example, and with the ones that work
>correctly in ie, they do 'jump'
>
>good catch though
>
>Dan Willemsen
>
>On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 16:03, Jesse Vitrone wrote:
>
>
>>Dan,
>> I know what you mean about the menu jumping, but it doesn't jump
>>like that if you do it right. Check out this w3 example:
>>
>>http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/menus.html
>>
>>A site that makes good use of it is http://texturizer.net/firebird/
>>Rollover the menu on the left and you'll see a "lock menu" link on the
>>top of the menu. Click it and scroll around. Works very well.
>>
>>But, I do like the iframe solution better, since I can have my menu load
>>different things into the iframe without having the menu reload.
>>
>>Jesse
>>
>>Dan Willemsen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The thing i don't like about these is that it will visibly 'jump' most
>>>of the time to the correct position while scrolling. The iframe idea
>>>that was mentioned by Armin is very similar to what i suggested, it is
>>>just a different (container even) way of doing it.
>>>
>>>On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 21:59, Jack Chung wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Maybe implement the frame the same way as those "floating toolbars"?
>>>>You know what I mean? Those that geocities used to put their brand on
>>>>all sites?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------
>>This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including
>>Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now.
>>Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET.
>>http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01
>>_______________________________________________
>>Dynapi-Help mailing list
>>Dyn...@li...
>>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help
>>
>>
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