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From: Thomas V. <tv...@co...> - 2000-12-04 16:16:10
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Peter said: --------------------------------------- Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. _______________________________________________ As you can see in the source, they're doubleyou (www.doubleyou.com) from Barcelona. They've made heavy use of Dan Steinman's libs and it seems they switched to Dynapi2 and Pascal's Dynamic Core. Check out: http://www.doubleyou.com http://www.borgstrom.com http://www.san-miguel.com http://leon.seat.es http://alhambra.seat.es Best regards, Thomas |
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From: Roger J. <rog...@fr...> - 2000-12-05 09:31:10
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on 00-12-04 17.15, Thomas Voirol at tv...@co... wrote: > Peter said: > > --------------------------------------- > > Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. Unfortunately, it is also "Mac blowing stuff"... yeah, I know there is a disclaimer when you enter the site.. but I had to try anyway ;-P It freezes my Mac (and every other Mac I tried it on) every time. I checked it out from a Wintel machine to know what I'm missing, and I agree, very nice stuff. /R -- Roger Johansson Framfab, Lilla Torget 6, SE-403 17 Gothenburg, Sweden Phone +46 31 13 34 44 http://www.framfab.com/ -- |
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From: Raymond S. <dst...@or...> - 2000-12-05 10:25:01
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I'm pretty consigned to the fact that doing high-level DHTML (more then move this, slide that, etc) in IE5 Mac is a fantasy. Even when we get the page working bug free it misrenders complex widgets altogether (skin windows show up "half dressed", not a pretty thing. On the other hand we've had pretty good luck with NS for the Mac. So.... yes it's disclaimer time. Got Mac? Get NS! and hope IE6 beta hits sooooooon. Any word on the net on this??????? Or,... better yet get a PC! DS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Johansson" <rog...@fr...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > on 00-12-04 17.15, Thomas Voirol at tv...@co... wrote: > > > Peter said: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. > > Unfortunately, it is also "Mac blowing stuff"... yeah, I know there is a > disclaimer when you enter the site.. but I had to try anyway ;-P > It freezes my Mac (and every other Mac I tried it on) every time. I checked > it out from a Wintel machine to know what I'm missing, and I agree, very > nice stuff. > > /R > -- > Roger Johansson > Framfab, Lilla Torget 6, SE-403 17 Gothenburg, Sweden > Phone +46 31 13 34 44 > http://www.framfab.com/ > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help > |
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From: Matthew S. <PK...@Tu...> - 2000-12-05 17:38:56
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I am seriously impressed by this site... but I have to ask, why wouldn't someone use Flash for something like this and gain the added compatibility of supporting the Mac and earlier versions of NS and IE? It's very nice but it really reminds me of most things I see done in Flash. M. -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Roger Johansson Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:33 AM To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List on 00-12-04 17.15, Thomas Voirol at tv...@co... wrote: > Peter said: > > --------------------------------------- > > Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. Unfortunately, it is also "Mac blowing stuff"... yeah, I know there is a disclaimer when you enter the site.. but I had to try anyway ;-P It freezes my Mac (and every other Mac I tried it on) every time. I checked it out from a Wintel machine to know what I'm missing, and I agree, very nice stuff. /R -- Roger Johansson Framfab, Lilla Torget 6, SE-403 17 Gothenburg, Sweden Phone +46 31 13 34 44 http://www.framfab.com/ -- _______________________________________________ Dynapi-Help mailing list Dyn...@li... http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Nuno F. <nun...@wi...> - 2000-12-05 23:27:46
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That's an easy one to answer... Database Access... Unless you use Generator or something, it's still very very tricky to use Dynamic Content with Flash. That's why I got drawn to the DynAPI in the first place. And besides, did you see the load sizes and speed of execution of a flash movie that makes heavily use of bitmap images? They're staggering! NunoF -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Matthew Shirey Sent: terca-feira, 5 de Dezembro de 2000 17:39 To: dyn...@li... Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List I am seriously impressed by this site... but I have to ask, why wouldn't someone use Flash for something like this and gain the added compatibility of supporting the Mac and earlier versions of NS and IE? It's very nice but it really reminds me of most things I see done in Flash. M. |
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From: Peter L. <com...@op...> - 2000-12-06 12:36:38
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Nuno Not to mention the additional problem of developing ColdFusion code, HTML, JavaScript, and CSS combined and getting it all to be compatible. Took me a while to figure out how to get Dynamic Content into the scroll2 object. I can now develop more data-aware widgets based on DynAPI 2. Adds another level to the meaning of the word "Dynamic". Regards Peter Luxmore CompSync Technologies. Nuno Ferreira wrote: > That's an easy one to answer... > Database Access... > Unless you use Generator or something, it's still very very tricky > to use Dynamic Content with Flash. That's why I got drawn to the > DynAPI in the first place. And besides, did you see the load sizes > and speed of execution of a flash movie that makes heavily use of bitmap > images? They're staggering! > > NunoF > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyn...@li... > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Matthew > Shirey > Sent: terca-feira, 5 de Dezembro de 2000 17:39 > To: dyn...@li... > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > > I am seriously impressed by this site... but I have to ask, why wouldn't > someone use Flash for something like this and gain the added compatibility > of supporting the Mac and earlier versions of NS and IE? It's very nice but > it really reminds me of most things I see done in Flash. > > M. > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Nuno F. <nun...@wi...> - 2000-12-06 23:45:34
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Exactly my thoughts! "Dynamic DHTML" would be a very good name for it! :)))) Actually I'm working on the same field, just using a different method. PHP not ColdFusion. But the real strenght of Dynamic DHTML :) is in personalization, and minimizing the typical number of reloads necessary on a database driven page. best, NunoF |
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From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2000-12-07 23:49:43
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just a thought.. but in my db based applications, I don't reload the page even once.. I use dynamic html to hold the data, then, when I need to update the data, I load an asp (yes, I use asp..) in a hidden frame which generates some javascript which sets the values in the layers in the main document.. ... Doug Melvin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nuno Ferreira" <nun...@wi...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > Exactly my thoughts! > "Dynamic DHTML" would be a very good name for it! :)))) > > Actually I'm working on the same field, just using a different > method. PHP not ColdFusion. > > But the real strenght of Dynamic DHTML :) is in personalization, > and minimizing the typical number of reloads necessary on a database > driven page. > > > best, > > NunoF > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Nuno F. <nun...@wi...> - 2000-12-08 15:34:21
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Don't worry about ASP. I use PHP and you probably don't like it much :) I figured as much. I already was using a IFrame to do that in Explorer on all my BackOffice applications. I can see where that is an advantage, you probably use small asp files, each one just doing the necessary db access to get the data you want. How do you hide the frame? Just put in 100% height on the main frame? NunoF -----Original Message----- From: dyn...@li... [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Doug Melvin Sent: sexta-feira, 8 de Dezembro de 2000 2:48 To: dyn...@li... Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List just a thought.. but in my db based applications, I don't reload the page even once.. I use dynamic html to hold the data, then, when I need to update the data, I load an asp (yes, I use asp..) in a hidden frame which generates some javascript which sets the values in the layers in the main document.. ... Doug Melvin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nuno Ferreira" <nun...@wi...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > Exactly my thoughts! > "Dynamic DHTML" would be a very good name for it! :)))) > > Actually I'm working on the same field, just using a different > method. PHP not ColdFusion. > > But the real strenght of Dynamic DHTML :) is in personalization, > and minimizing the typical number of reloads necessary on a database > driven page. > > > best, > > NunoF > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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From: Richard :o <ma...@ri...> - 2000-12-06 02:34:05
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hi, Several reasons, mainly I don't like flash. I don't like the interface, or the timeline-crap, the wysisyg, the horrible action script. I don't like the websites either, because flash developers seem to go overboard on every occasion, making stuff wink and wiggle all over the place, and stupid intromovies you have to skip each time. So if you use flash reasonably, without all the glitter, then I'd prefer to work in DHTML because of the control you retain over the document. There is however a legitimate use for flash as a tool in your toolbox, it's good for sound, and vector animations amongst other things. Many people contributing to DynAPI are developing professionally, and each professional website made in flash needs an HTML version as well, and this won't change as more and more low-end equipment like mobile phones and palmtops join the internet audience. Drag and Drop developers come a dime a dozen, if you understand the underlying code of something like DynAPI, you have a clear advantage when you need a robust professional website. just my thoughts... Richard :o) I would prefer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Shirey" <PK...@tu...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > I am seriously impressed by this site... but I have to ask, why wouldn't > someone use Flash for something like this and gain the added compatibility > of supporting the Mac and earlier versions of NS and IE? It's very nice but > it really reminds me of most things I see done in Flash. > > M. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyn...@li... > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Roger Johansson > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:33 AM > To: dyn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > > on 00-12-04 17.15, Thomas Voirol at tv...@co... wrote: > > > Peter said: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. > > Unfortunately, it is also "Mac blowing stuff"... yeah, I know there is a > disclaimer when you enter the site.. but I had to try anyway ;-P > It freezes my Mac (and every other Mac I tried it on) every time. I checked > it out from a Wintel machine to know what I'm missing, and I agree, very > nice stuff. > > /R > -- > Roger Johansson > Framfab, Lilla Torget 6, SE-403 17 Gothenburg, Sweden > Phone +46 31 13 34 44 > http://www.framfab.com/ > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help > ____________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE personal .com domain name and > NAMEzero Personal Portal at: http://www.namezero.com. > For customer service, mailto:cus...@na.... > > |
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From: Peter L. <com...@op...> - 2000-12-06 12:36:50
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Mathew Take a closer look. They have incorporated some good Flash stuff there too. Look at cosmetics and on the Kids level. Regards Peter Luxmore Matthew Shirey wrote: > I am seriously impressed by this site... but I have to ask, why wouldn't > someone use Flash for something like this and gain the added compatibility > of supporting the Mac and earlier versions of NS and IE? It's very nice but > it really reminds me of most things I see done in Flash. > > M. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dyn...@li... > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Roger Johansson > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 1:33 AM > To: dyn...@li... > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Help] Scroll2 and List > > on 00-12-04 17.15, Thomas Voirol at tv...@co... wrote: > > > Peter said: > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > Who ever developed www.zara.com deserves a medal. Mind blowing stuff. > > Unfortunately, it is also "Mac blowing stuff"... yeah, I know there is a > disclaimer when you enter the site.. but I had to try anyway ;-P > It freezes my Mac (and every other Mac I tried it on) every time. I checked > it out from a Wintel machine to know what I'm missing, and I agree, very > nice stuff. > > /R > -- > Roger Johansson > Framfab, Lilla Torget 6, SE-403 17 Gothenburg, Sweden > Phone +46 31 13 34 44 > http://www.framfab.com/ > -- > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-help |
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