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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Brust, C. <CB...@al...>]

>	(2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
concrete
>	shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
'back-end
>	powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
an
>	implementation system.  This creates the potential for
self-animating
>	polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.

This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object rather then a
url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of JavaScript
which prevents targeting of layers by forms.

Corwin Brust
Software Engineer
Alliance Data Systems
formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
Office: (612) 672-3584
Mobil: (612) 239-8073
Email: cb...@ha... 

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Brust, C. <CB...@al...>]

I was not trying to suggest that it couldn't been done, more that it might
be a good case for a subclass, say formpanel.  

-Corwin

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Pemberton [mailto:mp...@ph...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...


It should be possible to make a form result load into a loadpanel.  Use an
onsubmit event to step through each of the items in your form and .escape()
the
value.  Then use these to generate the url for the form results page.

This only work with get forms and not post.  Anyway, I hope this helps.

"Brust, Corwin" wrote:

> >       (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> concrete
> >       shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> 'back-end
> >       powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> an
> >       implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> self-animating
> >       polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules,
etc.
>
> This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object rather then
a
> url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of JavaScript
> which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
>

[ various footers removed ]

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Michael P. <mp...@ph...>]

I'm working on a dynamic form object that could be used to add and remove form
elements dynamically and then generate the required url when required to
submit.  This way, the form can use non-form objects that get values, such as
any of the DynAPI widgets.

"Brust, Corwin" wrote:

> I was not trying to suggest that it couldn't been done, more that it might
> be a good case for a subclass, say formpanel.
>
> -Corwin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Pemberton [mailto:mp...@ph...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
>
> It should be possible to make a form result load into a loadpanel.  Use an
> onsubmit event to step through each of the items in your form and .escape()
> the
> value.  Then use these to generate the url for the form results page.
>
> This only work with get forms and not post.  Anyway, I hope this helps.
>
> "Brust, Corwin" wrote:
>
> > >       (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > concrete
> > >       shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > 'back-end
> > >       powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> > an
> > >       implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > self-animating
> > >       polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules,
> etc.
> >
> > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object rather then
> a
> > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of JavaScript
> > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> >
>
> [ various footers removed ]
>
> _______________________________________________
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Cameron H. <ca...@bi...>]

Someone suggested writing a Java Applet that is accessed using the API to
perform the same function as LoadPanel. Sounded like a really interesting
idea. Does anyone know where documentation can be found on communicating
with Applets using Javascript? developer.netscape.com is probably a good
start I guess.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
> Pemberton
> Sent: 02 January 2001 23:16
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
>
>
> I'm working on a dynamic form object that could be used to add
> and remove form
> elements dynamically and then generate the required url when required to
> submit.  This way, the form can use non-form objects that get
> values, such as
> any of the DynAPI widgets.
>
> "Brust, Corwin" wrote:
>
> > I was not trying to suggest that it couldn't been done, more
> that it might
> > be a good case for a subclass, say formpanel.
> >
> > -Corwin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Pemberton [mailto:mp...@ph...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
> >
> > It should be possible to make a form result load into a
> loadpanel.  Use an
> > onsubmit event to step through each of the items in your form
> and .escape()
> > the
> > value.  Then use these to generate the url for the form results page.
> >
> > This only work with get forms and not post.  Anyway, I hope this helps.
> >
> > "Brust, Corwin" wrote:
> >
> > > >       (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > > concrete
> > > >       shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > > 'back-end
> > > >       powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP
> and DynAPI as
> > > an
> > > >       implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > > self-animating
> > > >       polls/presentation information, robust user
> preference modules,
> > etc.
> > >
> > > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me
> would be a
> > > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form
> object rather then
> > a
> > > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation
> of JavaScript
> > > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> > >
> >
> > [ various footers removed ]
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Peter L. <com...@op...>]

Cameron

There is a good example and documentation at this URL

http://www.builder.com/Programming/Scripter/071299/

Regards
Peter Luxmore

Cameron Hart wrote:

> Someone suggested writing a Java Applet that is accessed using the API to
> perform the same function as LoadPanel. Sounded like a really interesting
> idea. Does anyone know where documentation can be found on communicating
> with Applets using Javascript? developer.netscape.com is probably a good
> start I guess.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Michael
> > Pemberton
> > Sent: 02 January 2001 23:16
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
> >
> >
> > I'm working on a dynamic form object that could be used to add
> > and remove form
> > elements dynamically and then generate the required url when required to
> > submit.  This way, the form can use non-form objects that get
> > values, such as
> > any of the DynAPI widgets.
> >
> > "Brust, Corwin" wrote:
> >
> > > I was not trying to suggest that it couldn't been done, more
> > that it might
> > > be a good case for a subclass, say formpanel.
> > >
> > > -Corwin
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Pemberton [mailto:mp...@ph...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:50 PM
> > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
> > >
> > > It should be possible to make a form result load into a
> > loadpanel.  Use an
> > > onsubmit event to step through each of the items in your form
> > and .escape()
> > > the
> > > value.  Then use these to generate the url for the form results page.
> > >
> > > This only work with get forms and not post.  Anyway, I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > "Brust, Corwin" wrote:
> > >
> > > > >       (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > > > concrete
> > > > >       shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > > > 'back-end
> > > > >       powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP
> > and DynAPI as
> > > > an
> > > > >       implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > > > self-animating
> > > > >       polls/presentation information, robust user
> > preference modules,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me
> > would be a
> > > > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form
> > object rather then
> > > a
> > > > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation
> > of JavaScript
> > > > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> > > >
> > >
> > > [ various footers removed ]
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
> _______________________________________________
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

Hmm, I think Dan had already done this in his ServerSide widget...

It's actually funny to see alot of ideas popping on this mailing list that
some of the "older" dynapi users have already did or worked on :-)

Another one is the idea about layout managing (something that was mentioned
a few months ago by Brandon, btw.. did you ever finish it?) and the IDE
thing which I had already worked on a few months ago but dropped because of
to many changes being made..

well, lets just hope these ideas get 100% completed this year :-)

greets,

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Brust, Corwin
> Verzonden: dinsdag 2 januari 2001 19:17
> Aan: 'dyn...@li...'
> Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New
> "Thread"...
>
>
>
> >	(2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> concrete
> >	shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> 'back-end
> >	powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> an
> >	implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> self-animating
> >	polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.
>
> This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object
> rather then a
> url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of JavaScript
> which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
>
> Corwin Brust
> Software Engineer
> Alliance Data Systems
> formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
> 701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
> Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
> Office: (612) 672-3584
> Mobil: (612) 239-8073
> Email: cb...@ha...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Brandon M. <bnd...@ho...>]

Managing what? I can't remember. I have made soooo many different managers I
can't remember which I mentioned. There are a few Ideas that I mentioned
that I can't release, yet, but hope to when I get permission.

Has anyone taken a stab at re-writing the Event system? There are
improvements to be made that could solve problems that are being brought up,
and make obsolite kluged solutions.

Kluges and problem examples:
Precreate events, Label Event probelms, links in layers, event chaining,
event routing, event alterations based on runtime situations or previous
events, useless and irrelevent extra code,event priority, haulting
processing of current event within event handler, etc... (The list could go
on)

Any takers on this monumental task?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Pascal
> Bestebroer
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 2:01 PM
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
>
>
> Hmm, I think Dan had already done this in his ServerSide widget...
>
> It's actually funny to see alot of ideas popping on this mailing list that
> some of the "older" dynapi users have already did or worked on :-)
>
> Another one is the idea about layout managing (something that was
> mentioned
> a few months ago by Brandon, btw.. did you ever finish it?) and the IDE
> thing which I had already worked on a few months ago but dropped
> because of
> to many changes being made..
>
> well, lets just hope these ideas get 100% completed this year :-)
>
> greets,
>
> Pascal Bestebroer
> pa...@dy...
> http://www.dynamic-core.net
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Brust, Corwin
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 2 januari 2001 19:17
> > Aan: 'dyn...@li...'
> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New
> > "Thread"...
> >
> >
> >
> > >	(2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > concrete
> > >	shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > 'back-end
> > >	powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> > an
> > >	implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > self-animating
> > >	polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.
> >
> > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object
> > rather then a
> > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of
> JavaScript
> > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> >
> > Corwin Brust
> > Software Engineer
> > Alliance Data Systems
> > formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
> > 701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
> > Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
> > Office: (612) 672-3584
> > Mobil: (612) 239-8073
> > Email: cb...@ha...
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

ServerSide widget?
Do tell! more! more!

Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...


> Hmm, I think Dan had already done this in his ServerSide widget...
>
> It's actually funny to see alot of ideas popping on this mailing list that
> some of the "older" dynapi users have already did or worked on :-)
>
> Another one is the idea about layout managing (something that was
mentioned
> a few months ago by Brandon, btw.. did you ever finish it?) and the IDE
> thing which I had already worked on a few months ago but dropped because
of
> to many changes being made..
>
> well, lets just hope these ideas get 100% completed this year :-)
>
> greets,
>
> Pascal Bestebroer
> pa...@dy...
> http://www.dynamic-core.net
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Brust, Corwin
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 2 januari 2001 19:17
> > Aan: 'dyn...@li...'
> > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New
> > "Thread"...
> >
> >
> >
> > > (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > concrete
> > > shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > 'back-end
> > > powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> > an
> > > implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > self-animating
> > > polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.
> >
> > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object
> > rather then a
> > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of
JavaScript
> > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> >
> > Corwin Brust
> > Software Engineer
> > Alliance Data Systems
> > formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
> > 701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
> > Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
> > Office: (612) 672-3584
> > Mobil: (612) 239-8073
> > Email: cb...@ha...
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

Actually it was called servertasks (I was almost correct :), but again ask
Dan about it seeing as he created it.. I can't find an "uptodate" version.

it provided back and forth communication between javascript and server-side
(php was used, but could also work with asp). It uses the loadpanel for
communication.

cya,

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Doug Melvin
> Verzonden: woensdag 3 januari 2001 21:20
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New
> "Thread"...
>
>
> ServerSide widget?
> Do tell! more! more!
>
> Doug
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...
>
>
> > Hmm, I think Dan had already done this in his ServerSide widget...
> >
> > It's actually funny to see alot of ideas popping on this
> mailing list that
> > some of the "older" dynapi users have already did or worked on :-)
> >
> > Another one is the idea about layout managing (something that was
> mentioned
> > a few months ago by Brandon, btw.. did you ever finish it?) and the IDE
> > thing which I had already worked on a few months ago but dropped because
> of
> > to many changes being made..
> >
> > well, lets just hope these ideas get 100% completed this year :-)
> >
> > greets,
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer
> > pa...@dy...
> > http://www.dynamic-core.net
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Brust, Corwin
> > > Verzonden: dinsdag 2 januari 2001 19:17
> > > Aan: 'dyn...@li...'
> > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New
> > > "Thread"...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> > > concrete
> > > > shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> > > 'back-end
> > > > powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> > > an
> > > > implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> > > self-animating
> > > > polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.
> > >
> > > This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me
> would be a
> > > mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object
> > > rather then a
> > > url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of
> JavaScript
> > > which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
> > >
> > > Corwin Brust
> > > Software Engineer
> > > Alliance Data Systems
> > > formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
> > > 701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
> > > Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
> > > Office: (612) 672-3584
> > > Mobil: (612) 239-8073
> > > Email: cb...@ha...
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] 2001 areas of focus, DynAPI - New "Thread"...

[Michael P. <mp...@ph...>]

It should be possible to make a form result load into a loadpanel.  Use an
onsubmit event to step through each of the items in your form and .escape() the
value.  Then use these to generate the url for the form results page.

This only work with get forms and not post.  Anyway, I hope this helps.

"Brust, Corwin" wrote:

> >       (2) Most robust backend systems leave the client-side wearing
> concrete
> >       shoes.  I think we have a tremendous opportunity to be both
> 'back-end
> >       powerful' and 'client-side dynamic' using MySQL, PHP and DynAPI as
> an
> >       implementation system.  This creates the potential for
> self-animating
> >       polls/presentation information, robust user preference modules, etc.
>
> This also sounds interesting to me, particularly useful to me would be a
> mechanism, similar to LoadPanel, but which takes a form object rather then a
> url.  The would be helpful in working around the limitation of JavaScript
> which prevents targeting of layers by forms.
>
> Corwin Brust
> Software Engineer
> Alliance Data Systems
> formerly Harmonic Systems, Inc.
> 701 Fourth Ave South, Suite-1600
> Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415
> Office: (612) 672-3584
> Mobil: (612) 239-8073
> Email: cb...@ha...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev