dynapi-dev

re: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

[Michael P. <mp...@ph...>]

As someone how has only done a small amount of Java programming, I have
found that it takes a grat deal of learning to get your self up to spead
with it.

I've also found that there is always 15 different ways of doing
something and each book tells you a different one.

As for PHP, it is a scripting language ar heart.  This means that most
of the code is self contained and can be easily followed.  It all comes
down to what you want to do.  If your looking to make a front end for a
database, PHP is the way to go.  If you want to be doing alot of
interaction with a server, java might be better.

--
Michael Pemberton
mp...@ph...
ICQ: 12107010

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

Hmm, something that actually got lost is Dan's  serverside
widget/code/whatever.

It allowed for runtime communication between Javascript and the server using
the loadpanel.
Not sure if this code is still available somewhere (Dan, you still with us?)
But it was  already doing what you want it to do, written to communicate
with PHP, but could be made to work with ASP or any other s.s.script
language.

Also that solution (lamp) would be able to run on NT based servers aswell,
not sure if java applets are supported 100% on NT based servers.

I found PHP to be a messy thing to code in, but it can do alot with relative
ease..

hmm...so.. you'r turning to the logical side of things..amazing!

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> Verzonden: woensdag 14 februari 2001 1:30
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!
>
>
> Associates,
>
> I've been doing alot of research in what direction I would
> like to go next;
> in conjunction with the DynAPI.  While the API is wonderous
> for creating
> dynamic interfaces it needs a server-side partner in my mind
> to reach its
> full potential.
>
> Comparing ASP, JSP and PHP I've decided that LAMP (Linux,
> Apache, mySQL and
> PHP) tends to result in more robust client/server
> applications.  With PHP
> Zend boosted beating both in speed and performance and PHP
> appears to have
> allot of energy surronding it at this time.
>
> So, from that aspect, PHP wins.  Also there appears to be a
> very sizable
> family of "real" PHP initiatives on Source Forge to draw and
> learn from.
>
> But,...
>
> >From my readings it's also apparent that JAVA is "king and
> master" of the
> Server Side Application if the JVM and runtime code is
> compiled properly.
> But, checking Source Forge for Java related projects creates
> a large list of
> mostly abstract and esoteric projects: not alot of meat on
> the bones from a
> "get things done" standpoint.
>
> Question is, what do you mavens of logical mayhem recommend
> as my next area
> of focus.  I am interested in developing some server-side
> applications that
> meld into the DynAPI interface on the client-side (yes, Pascal... be
> amazied).
>
> Java or PHP?
>
> Will learning PHP now be advantageous or detrimental to
> learning JAVA/JINI
> later?
> How does OOP in PHP compare to JAVA OOP?  I realize it lacks
> interfaces and
> solid abstraction.
> Why are most the PHP initiatives on Source Forge solid and
> down to earth
> while JAVA tends to be lofty and not very "real world" in nature?
>
> Looking for a little feedback here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray "fear the rock" Smith
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

> Also that solution (lamp) would be able to run on NT based servers =
aswell,
> not sure if java applets are supported 100% on NT based servers.


Servlettes are not a probelm in NT environment.        =
<---------------------

=20
> I found PHP to be a messy thing to code in, but it can do alot with =
relative
> ease..


PERL is also fully supported on NT/2k (after installing of course)






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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

you'r not saying that perl is less messy are you :-)

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

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  Van: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Doug Melvin
  Verzonden: woensdag 14 februari 2001 20:22
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  > Also that solution (lamp) would be able to run on NT based servers
aswell,
  > not sure if java applets are supported 100% on NT based servers.


  Servlettes are not a probelm in NT environment.
<---------------------


  > I found PHP to be a messy thing to code in, but it can do alot with
relative
  > ease..


  PERL is also fully supported on NT/2k (after installing of course)






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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

I would never say such a silly thing.. :-)
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  From: Pascal Bestebroer=20
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  Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!


  you'r not saying that perl is less messy are you :-)

  Pascal Bestebroer
  pa...@dy...
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[mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Doug Melvin
    Verzonden: woensdag 14 februari 2001 20:22
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    Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] serious, ... really!


    > Also that solution (lamp) would be able to run on NT based servers =
aswell,
    > not sure if java applets are supported 100% on NT based servers.


    Servlettes are not a probelm in NT environment.        =
<---------------------


    > I found PHP to be a messy thing to code in, but it can do alot =
with relative
    > ease..


    PERL is also fully supported on NT/2k (after installing of course)






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