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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

when you send javascript down to the client use
<script>
   history.go(1);
</script>

--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> Hi mate!
> 
> How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> 
> 
> /Daniel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> Behalf Of Raymond
> Irving
> Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> 
> 
> 
> Yes SODA has the same problem.
> 
> Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent the
> users from using the browsers back button. IMO it's
> not good to have the back button active when you're
> doing dynamic stuff.
> 
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> side
> > for Tcl, and in the
> > process got JSRS up and running
> > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can see
> my
> > meager effort here:
> > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > 
> > I noticed that even though I use
> location.replace()
> > (where possible) it
> > still fills my browser history, the back button
> gets
> > a very long history
> > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and NN7 on
> > WinXP, others saw
> > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> Linux.
> > 
> > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this problem,
> > and if not, how did you
> > avoid it?
> > 
> > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > making slow progress
> > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side for
> > SODA, using the PHP code
> > as a template.
> > 
> > --JYL
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Can you elaborate on this?
I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


> 
> when you send javascript down to the client use
> <script>
>    history.go(1);
> </script>
> 
> --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > Hi mate!
> > 
> > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > 
> > 
> > /Daniel
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> > Behalf Of Raymond
> > Irving
> > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > 
> > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent the
> > users from using the browsers back button. IMO it's
> > not good to have the back button active when you're
> > doing dynamic stuff.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > side
> > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can see
> > my
> > > meager effort here:
> > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > 
> > > I noticed that even though I use
> > location.replace()
> > > (where possible) it
> > > still fills my browser history, the back button
> > gets
> > > a very long history
> > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and NN7 on
> > > WinXP, others saw
> > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > Linux.
> > > 
> > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this problem,
> > > and if not, how did you
> > > avoid it?
> > > 
> > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > making slow progress
> > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side for
> > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > as a template.
> > > 
> > > --JYL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Ok.

When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
This will prevent the user from clicking the back
button.

Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
In this way users will not be able to click the back
button.

--
Raymond Irving


--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> Can you elaborate on this?
> I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> 
> 
> > 
> > when you send javascript down to the client use
> > <script>
> >    history.go(1);
> > </script>
> > 
> > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > > Hi mate!
> > > 
> > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > /Daniel
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > > Irving
> > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> RPC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > > 
> > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
> the
> > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
> it's
> > > not good to have the back button active when
> you're
> > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > > side
> > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
> see
> > > my
> > > > meager effort here:
> > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > > location.replace()
> > > > (where possible) it
> > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> button
> > > gets
> > > > a very long history
> > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and
> NN7 on
> > > > WinXP, others saw
> > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > > Linux.
> > > > 
> > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> problem,
> > > > and if not, how did you
> > > > avoid it?
> > > > 
> > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > > making slow progress
> > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side
> for
> > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > > as a template.
> > > > 
> > > > --JYL
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

I don't believe this should be the default behaviour.
But we should make is an easy "switch", like ioElement.PreventHistory(true)
or some such

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


>
> Ok.
>
> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> button.
>
> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
> In this way users will not be able to click the back
> button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
> > Can you elaborate on this?
> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >
> >
> > >
> > > when you send javascript down to the client use
> > > <script>
> > >    history.go(1);
> > > </script>
> > >
> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > > > Hi mate!
> > > >
> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > /Daniel
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> > On
> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > > > Irving
> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> > RPC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > > >
> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
> > the
> > > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
> > it's
> > > > not good to have the back button active when
> > you're
> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Raymond Irving
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
> > > > side
> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
> > see
> > > > my
> > > > > meager effort here:
> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > > > location.replace()
> > > > > (where possible) it
> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> > button
> > > > gets
> > > > > a very long history
> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6 and
> > NN7 on
> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX and
> > > > Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> > problem,
> > > > > and if not, how did you
> > > > > avoid it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that I am
> > > > > making slow progress
> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server side
> > for
> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > > > > as a template.
> > > > >
> > > > > --JYL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a hidden element, so that the
server can generate the "history.go(1)"... Convoluted but works.

--JYL

> I don't believe this should be the default behaviour.
> But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>
>
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to the
>> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to have
>> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the client.
>> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>> button.
>>
>> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the default?
>> In this way users will not be able to click the back
>> button.
>>
>> --
>> Raymond Irving
>>
>>
>> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...> wrote:
>> > Can you elaborate on this?
>> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being used.
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > when you send javascript down to the client use
>> > > <script>
>> > >    history.go(1);
>> > > </script>
>> > >
>> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>> > > > Hi mate!
>> > > >
>> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > /Daniel
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: dyn...@li...
>> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
>> > On
>> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
>> > > > Irving
>> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>> > > > To: dyn...@li...
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>> > RPC
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
>> > > >
>> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I prevent
>> > the
>> > > > users from using the browsers back button. IMO
>> > it's
>> > > > not good to have the back button active when
>> > you're
>> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Raymond Irving
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA server
>> > > > side
>> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
>> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
>> > > > > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You can
>> > see
>> > > > my
>> > > > > meager effort here:
>> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
>> > > > location.replace()
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>> > > > gets
>> > > > > a very long history
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
function is called it will prevent the client from
clicking the back button.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> hidden element, so that the
> server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> Convoluted but works.
> 
> --JYL
> 
> > I don't believe this should be the default
> behaviour.
> > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Ok.
> >>
> >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> the
> >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
> have
> >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> client.
> >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> >> button.
> >>
> >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> default?
> >> In this way users will not be able to click the
> back
> >> button.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raymond Irving
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> wrote:
> >> > Can you elaborate on this?
> >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> used.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> RPC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
> use
> >> > > <script>
> >> > >    history.go(1);
> >> > > </script>
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> >> > > > Hi mate!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > /Daniel
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From:
> dyn...@li...
> >> > > >
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> >> > On
> >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> >> > > > Irving
> >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> and
> >> > RPC
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> prevent
> >> > the
> >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
> IMO
> >> > it's
> >> > > > not good to have the back button active
> when
> >> > you're
> >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Raymond Irving
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> server
> >> > > > side
> >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> >> > > > >
> (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> can
> >> > see
> >> > > > my
> >> > > > > meager effort here:
> >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> >> > > > location.replace()
> >> > > > > (where possible) it
> >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> >> > button
> >> > > > gets
> >> > > > > a very long history
> >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
> and
> >> > NN7 on
> >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
> and
> >> > > > Linux.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> >> > problem,
> >> > > > > and if not, how did you
> >> > > > > avoid it?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
> I am
> >> > > > > making slow progress
> >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
> side
> >> > for
> >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> >> > > > > as a template.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --JYL
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

I'm trying to get this to work, manually, and I must be missing something.
Things are still showing up in the history.

--JYL

> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>> hidden element, so that the
>> server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>> Convoluted but works.
>>
>> --JYL
>>
>> > I don't believe this should be the default
>> behaviour.
>> > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>> > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ok.
>> >>
>> >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>> the
>> >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
>> have
>> >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>> client.
>> >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>> >> button.
>> >>
>> >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>> default?
>> >> In this way users will not be able to click the
>> back
>> >> button.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Raymond Irving
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Can you elaborate on this?
>> >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>> used.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>> >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>> >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>> RPC
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
>> use
>> >> > > <script>
>> >> > >    history.go(1);
>> >> > > </script>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>> >> > > > Hi mate!
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > /Daniel
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > From:
>> dyn...@li...
>> >> > > >
>> [mailto:dyn...@li...]
>> >> > On
>> >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
>> >> > > > Irving
>> >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>> >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
>> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>> and
>> >> > RPC
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>> prevent
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
>> IMO
>> >> > it's
>> >> > > > not good to have the back button active
>> when
>> >> > you're
>> >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > > Raymond Irving
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>> server
>> >> > > > side
>> >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
>> >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
>> >> > > > >
>> (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>> >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>> can
>> >> > see
>> >> > > > my
>> >> > > > > meager effort here:
>> >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
>> >> > > > location.replace()
>> >> > > > > (where possible) it
>> >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
>> >> > button
>> >> > > > gets
>> >> > > > > a very long history
>> >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
>> and
>> >> > NN7 on
>> >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
>> >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
>> and
>> >> > > > Linux.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
>> >> > problem,
>> >> > > > > and if not, how did you
>> >> > > > > avoid it?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
>> I am
>> >> > > > > making slow progress
>> >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
>> side
>> >> > for
>> >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
>> >> > > > > as a template.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > --JYL
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Hi,

shouldn't that also be provided as a standard DynAPI-function?
Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too, which catches
the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for older browsers)?
That is *really* useful when working with with a custom ui made
of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide something like:

DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
lyr.addEventListener ( {
	oncontextmenu : ...
});

I think that this would be very useful to a lot of users. If wanted
I can provide the functionality since I already have it (partly) in
my own libraries.

Regards,
Peter



Raymond Irving wrote:

> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> 
>>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>>hidden element, so that the
>>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>>Convoluted but works.
>>
>>--JYL
>>
>>
>>>I don't believe this should be the default
>>
>>behaviour.
>>
>>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ok.
>>>>
>>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
>>
>>have
>>
>>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>>
>>client.
>>
>>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the back
>>>>button.
>>>>
>>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>>
>>default?
>>
>>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>button.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
>>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>>
>>used.
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>>
>>RPC
>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
>>
>>use
>>
>>>>>><script>
>>>>>>   history.go(1);
>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi mate!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>/Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From:
>>
>>dyn...@li...
>>
>>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
>>
>>>>>On
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
>>>>>>>Irving
>>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>RPC
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>>
>>prevent
>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
>>
>>IMO
>>
>>>>>it's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
>>
>>when
>>
>>>>>you're
>>>>>
>>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>>
>>server
>>
>>>>>>>side
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
>>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>>
>>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>>
>>can
>>
>>>>>see
>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>meager effort here:
>>>>>>>>http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I noticed that even though I use
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>location.replace()
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(where possible) it
>>>>>>>>still fills my browser history, the back
>>>>>
>>>>>button
>>>>>
>>>>>>>gets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>a very long history
>>>>>>>>very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>NN7 on
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>WinXP, others saw
>>>>>>>>similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
>>
>>and
>>
>>>>>>>Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
>>>>>
>>>>>problem,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and if not, how did you
>>>>>>>>avoid it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Other than that, I'm happy to report that
>>
>>I am
>>
>>>>>>>>making slow progress
>>>>>>>>creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
>>
>>side
>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>SODA, using the PHP code
>>>>>>>>as a template.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--JYL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

I believe we have a
dynapi.document.disableContextMenu() function that
should disable context menu. 

I for one prefer preventContextMenu() to
disableContextMenu() can we make that change in
keeping with things like preventBubble(), etc or
should we just leave it as is?

To create you're own context menus you'll have to
listen to onclick and check for the right mouse button
or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
event?


--
Raymond Irving

--- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> shouldn't that also be provided as a standard
> DynAPI-function?
> Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
> dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too,
> which catches
> the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for
> older browsers)?
> That is *really* useful when working with with a
> custom ui made
> of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide
> something like:
> 
> DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
> lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
> lyr.addEventListener ( {
> 	oncontextmenu : ...
> });
> 
> I think that this would be very useful to a lot of
> users. If wanted
> I can provide the functionality since I already have
> it (partly) in
> my own libraries.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> Raymond Irving wrote:
> 
> > Ok. We'll provide a new function from the
> server-side
> > libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> > function is called it will prevent the client from
> > clicking the back button.
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > 
> >>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> >>hidden element, so that the
> >>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> >>Convoluted but works.
> >>
> >>--JYL
> >>
> >>
> >>>I don't believe this should be the default
> >>
> >>behaviour.
> >>
> >>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> >>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >>>To: <dyn...@li...>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ok.
> >>>>
> >>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function
> to
> >>
> >>have
> >>
> >>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> >>
> >>client.
> >>
> >>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the
> back
> >>>>button.
> >>>>
> >>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> >>
> >>default?
> >>
> >>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
> >>
> >>back
> >>
> >>>>button.
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Raymond Irving
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> >>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
> >>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> >>
> >>used.
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> >>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> >>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> >>
> >>RPC
> >>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
> >>
> >>use
> >>
> >>>>>><script>
> >>>>>>   history.go(1);
> >>>>>></script>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi mate!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>/Daniel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>From:
> >>
> >>dyn...@li...
> >>
> >>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
> >>
> >>>>>On
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
> >>>>>>>Irving
> >>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> >>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
> >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>>RPC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> >>
> >>prevent
> >>
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
> >>
> >>IMO
> >>
> >>>>>it's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
> >>
> >>when
> >>
> >>>>>you're
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--
> >>>>>>>Raymond Irving
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> >>
> >>server
> >>
> >>>>>>>side
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
> >>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> >>
> >>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> >>
> >>can
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Hi,

> I believe we have a
> dynapi.document.disableContextMenu() function that
> should disable context menu. 

Ok should have looked into the source beforehand...

> I for one prefer preventContextMenu() to
> disableContextMenu() can we make that change in
> keeping with things like preventBubble(), etc or
> should we just leave it as is?

I think disableContextMenu is more precise in this context.

> To create you're own context menus you'll have to
> listen to onclick and check for the right mouse button
> or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
> event?

That would be great! But then we have a problem with
the name 'disableContextMenu'. Rename it to
'disableDefaultContextMenu' or something like that?

Regards,
Peter

> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> --- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>shouldn't that also be provided as a standard
>>DynAPI-function?
>>Like dynapi.preventHistory()? While at it a function
>>dynapi.preventContextMenu() could be added too,
>>which catches
>>the oncontextmenu-events and the right-click (for
>>older browsers)?
>>That is *really* useful when working with with a
>>custom ui made
>>of dynlayers. Another idea could be to provide
>>something like:
>>
>>DynLayer lyr = new DynLayer();
>>lyr.enableContextMenuClick();
>>lyr.addEventListener ( {
>>	oncontextmenu : ...
>>});
>>
>>I think that this would be very useful to a lot of
>>users. If wanted
>>I can provide the functionality since I already have
>>it (partly) in
>>my own libraries.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>Raymond Irving wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ok. We'll provide a new function from the
>>
>>server-side
>>
>>>libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
>>>function is called it will prevent the client from
>>>clicking the back button.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Raymond Irving
>>>
>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
>>>>hidden element, so that the
>>>>server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
>>>>Convoluted but works.
>>>>
>>>>--JYL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe this should be the default
>>>>
>>>>behaviour.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>But we should make is an easy "switch", like
>>>>>ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>client you can use the addJSCommand() function
>>
>>to
>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
>>>>
>>>>client.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>This will prevent the user from clicking the
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>>>button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
>>>>
>>>>default?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>In this way users will not be able to click the
>>>>
>>>>back
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>button.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
>>>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Can you elaborate on this?
>>>>>>>I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
>>>>
>>>>used.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
>>>>>>>To: <dyn...@li...>
>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
>>>>
>>>>RPC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>when you send javascript down to the client
>>>>
>>>>use
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>><script>
>>>>>>>>  history.go(1);
>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi mate!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How do you prevent using the backbutton?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>/Daniel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From:
>>>>
>>>>dyn...@li...
>>>>
>>>>[mailto:dyn...@li...]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>On
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Behalf Of Raymond
>>>>>>>>>Irving
>>>>>>>>>Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
>>>>>>>>>To: dyn...@li...
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>RPC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes SODA has the same problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
>>>>
>>>>prevent
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>users from using the browsers back button.
>>>>
>>>>IMO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not good to have the back button active
>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>you're
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>doing dynamic stuff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>>Raymond Irving
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
>>>>
>>>>server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>side
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>for Tcl, and in the
>>>>>>>>>>process got JSRS up and running
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
>>>>
>>>>can
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Peter Romianowski <ant...@gm...> wrote:
> > To create you're own context menus you'll have to
> > listen to onclick and check for the right mouse
> button
> > or should we go ahead and create a oncontextmenu
> > event?
> 
> That would be great! But then we have a problem with
> the name 'disableContextMenu'. Rename it to
> 'disableDefaultContextMenu' or something like that?

Calling 'disableContextMenu' will only disable the
browser's contextmenu but you'll still be able to
lisen to oncontextmenu. 

Opera is the only browser that I think we might have
problems with when disabling the context menu.

--
Raymond Irving


> Regards,
> Peter
> 


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Peter R. <ant...@gm...>]

Raymond Irving wrote:

> Calling 'disableContextMenu' will only disable the
> browser's contextmenu but you'll still be able to
> lisen to oncontextmenu. 

Yes I know. What I meant is that it is kinda strange to
call disableContextMenu but having a oncontextmenu-Eventhandler.
People might not distinguish between browser-context-menu
and their own. That was the 'name-clash' I was referring to.

Regards,
Peter

[Dynapi-Dev] Panelbar update

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi!

Peter have updated the Panelbar js file and panelbar-stacker example.

Just some documentation to do left but that will come.

Regards
Daniel

[Dynapi-Dev] DynWindow

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi mate!

Here comes the lastest dynwindow... I was thinking that maybee you could
fix the inheritance problem i always is making :) And then i can
continue with it.

Regards
Daniel

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

Ok.  Will add to ioelmsrv.php when it's added to the asp version, so I can
see exactly what it does.  :-)

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC


>
> Ok. We'll provide a new function from the server-side
> libraries called wsPreventHistory(). When this
> function is called it will prevent the client from
> clicking the back button.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > Ah, and have that sent to the server side as a
> > hidden element, so that the
> > server can generate the "history.go(1)"...
> > Convoluted but works.
> >
> > --JYL
> >
> > > I don't believe this should be the default
> > behaviour.
> > > But we should make is an easy "switch", like
> > > ioElement.PreventHistory(true) or some such
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and RPC
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Ok.
> > >>
> > >> When using ioelmsrv.jscript.asp to send data to
> > the
> > >> client you can use the addJSCommand() function to
> > have
> > >> the "history.go(1);" command execute on the
> > client.
> > >> This will prevent the user from clicking the back
> > >> button.
> > >>
> > >> Should we add this behavior ioelmsrv as the
> > default?
> > >> In this way users will not be able to click the
> > back
> > >> button.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Raymond Irving
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- Doug Melvin <do...@cr...>
> > wrote:
> > >> > Can you elaborate on this?
> > >> > I am not clear as to how this snippet is being
> > used.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
> > >> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:53 AM
> > >> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history and
> > RPC
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > when you send javascript down to the client
> > use
> > >> > > <script>
> > >> > >    history.go(1);
> > >> > > </script>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > >> > > > Hi mate!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > How do you prevent using the backbutton?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > /Daniel
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From:
> > dyn...@li...
> > >> > > >
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]
> > >> > On
> > >> > > > Behalf Of Raymond
> > >> > > > Irving
> > >> > > > Sent: den 29 oktober 2003 15:16
> > >> > > > To: dyn...@li...
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] browser history
> > and
> > >> > RPC
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yes SODA has the same problem.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Normally when I'm writing dynamic apps I
> > prevent
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > users from using the browsers back button.
> > IMO
> > >> > it's
> > >> > > > not good to have the back button active
> > when
> > >> > you're
> > >> > > > doing dynamic stuff.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > > Raymond Irving
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> > >> > > > > I'm trying to learn how to write a SODA
> > server
> > >> > > > side
> > >> > > > > for Tcl, and in the
> > >> > > > > process got JSRS up and running
> > >> > > > >
> > (http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm)
> > >> > > > > with tclhttpd as a smaller milestone. You
> > can
> > >> > see
> > >> > > > my
> > >> > > > > meager effort here:
> > >> > > > > http://mod3.net:8888/jsrs22/test.htm
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I noticed that even though I use
> > >> > > > location.replace()
> > >> > > > > (where possible) it
> > >> > > > > still fills my browser history, the back
> > >> > button
> > >> > > > gets
> > >> > > > > a very long history
> > >> > > > > very quickly.. :) I noticed this on IE6
> > and
> > >> > NN7 on
> > >> > > > > WinXP, others saw
> > >> > > > > similar behavior with browsers on MacOSX
> > and
> > >> > > > Linux.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Question: does the dynapi SODA have this
> > >> > problem,
> > >> > > > > and if not, how did you
> > >> > > > > avoid it?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Other than that, I'm happy to report that
> > I am
> > >> > > > > making slow progress
> > >> > > > > creating a Tcl equivalent of the server
> > side
> > >> > for
> > >> > > > > SODA, using the PHP code
> > >> > > > > as a template.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --JYL
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
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