Thread: RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things

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Of course sun will.  THEY want to be the only one supplying Java. =3D)
Sounds like a Microsoft wannabe to me...

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rainwater [mailto:rra...@ya...]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:44 AM
To: DynAPI Development List
Subject: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things

Microsoft also stated there would be no Java support in IE 6.
Apparently, a
java plugin will have to be used. Of course, only if someone creates
one, which I'm sure Sun will do.

--=20
// Robert Rainwater

On 2/23/2001, 5:04:50 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI
current things":

> Actually, MS just paid Sun 20 million dollars to licence java for
their own
> use.
> I don't think we need to worry about there being no Java support in
IE6.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI current things

>> The only thing that concerns me, is our friends over at Microsoft.
While
>> they were moving towards DOM compliance (around the time they ported
IE5
> to
>> the Macintosh) they took a hard left with IE5.5 when they decided
that war
>> with the Java/Unix camp was inevitable.
>>
>> I have a lot of concerns with the pending Whistler/IE6 combination,
> because
>> I am pretty sure it's going be a major paradigm shift for them/us
(think
>> zero support for client side Java).  M$ is moving to align all their
>> products OS/Software around the .net strategy while at the same time
> pushing
>> the "disturbance factor" in other alternative platforms  (hmmmm, this
> seems
>> to run like shit on my PC compared to 100% M$ products) as much as
they
> can
>> without flagging the Justice Department "to much".
>>
>> Additionally, the long awaited arrival of NS6 came and went without
so
> much
>> as a ripple of real impact.  I think that good old Netscape finally
found
>> out how to align the bullet-filled cylinder of business blunders with
> their
>> head.  NS6 is a dead alternative in the eyes of Joe Consumer.  I
can't
> even
>> imagine AOL wrapping there consumer online service around this
browser
>> instead of IE  (that they use now), unless they want to hand MSN
>> marketshare.
>>
>> In no way am I supporting an IE concentric approach.  We just need to
be
>> aware that "shit is gonna hit the developer fan" in 3-7 months when
they
>> release Whistler.  They have spent a billion dollars developing this
> release
>> with two goals in mind.  Stunt the growth of Java and kill Linux as a
> viable
>> "consumer OS" alternative.  By consumer OS I mean our average home PC
> user.
>>
>> A scary fact is that M$ has said they don't plan on releasing IE6 as
a
>> public beta.  It's gonna release inside the Whistler OS update.  Get
>> Whistler, get IE6.  This means one thing.  IE6 and Whistler are being
>> developed in tandem to create strategic havoc for the Java/Unix
camps.
>>
>> Javascript (the DynAPI foundation) will likely survive as a
cross-platform
>> language; it's to entrenched and strategically means little to M$'s
end
>> goals.  We can :O) a bit here.
>>
>> This is why I don't want to spend a lot of time developing a Java
Applet
>> Client/Side I/O device for DynAPI2 Michael.  I'm not even sure it
will be
>> supported with the new IE6.  I think Java is going to be a
server-side
> tool
>> for awhile.
>>
>> In the end, basic DOM support with the DynAPI is probably the best
path.
>> But lets be smart (as we can be with limited knowledge) about how we
> enhance
>> that API with input/output shunts to the dynamic server/side world.
>>
>> Laters,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
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