dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Peter C. <pc...@ca...>]

This "snapshot" appears to be the current version of the code, 
pre-extracted from the CVS. Is that right? If so, it is just what I have 
wanted on a number of occasions. I just want the current code, and don't 
really want to get involved in the full CVS system, unless/until I'm in a 
position to contribute something useful. Is this actually being maintained 
as a reasonably current version of the code, or was this just a one-time 
thing, or ...?

Secondly, I know my eyesight is going, but I can't find any link to this 
snapshot on the home page, or any other page. Is there one, or was this 
intended to be an insiders' secret that has now escaped?

Thanks for any help...

At 10:58 AM 02/01/01 -0800, Robert Rainwater wrote:

>The snapshot at http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/snapshot/dynapi.zip appears to
>be broken.  If you are downloading it, you will notice that its not
>up-to-date with the latest changes.  When I get home Sunday, I will fix this
>so that it will be updating correctly.

--
Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

The snapshot is created by sourceforge from the CVS tree.

It wasn't a secret, but because it's not a release version it should
probably only be used by developers or people who know what to do with
bugs.. and they, in most cases, already knew about this .. I hope :-)

in any case, you could find information about this in the f.a.q:
http://www.dynamic-core.net/core/files/faq.dynapi2.html

in the Using CVS part.



Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> Verzonden: woensdag 3 januari 2001 15:16
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> This "snapshot" appears to be the current version of the code,
> pre-extracted from the CVS. Is that right? If so, it is just
> what I have
> wanted on a number of occasions. I just want the current
> code, and don't
> really want to get involved in the full CVS system,
> unless/until I'm in a
> position to contribute something useful. Is this actually
> being maintained
> as a reasonably current version of the code, or was this just
> a one-time
> thing, or ...?
>
> Secondly, I know my eyesight is going, but I can't find any
> link to this
> snapshot on the home page, or any other page. Is there one,
> or was this
> intended to be an insiders' secret that has now escaped?
>
> Thanks for any help...
>
> At 10:58 AM 02/01/01 -0800, Robert Rainwater wrote:
>
> >The snapshot at
> http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/snapshot/dynapi.zip appears to
> >be broken.  If you are downloading it, you will notice that its not
> >up-to-date with the latest changes.  When I get home Sunday,
> I will fix this
> >so that it will be updating correctly.
>
> --
> Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Peter C. <pc...@ca...>]

OK - thanks. This is pretty much what I figured was going on.

Adding a link to the snapshot in the home page - with an explanation of 
what it is - seems like a good idea to me. There hasn't been a new official 
"release" for a long time, and with all the ongoing development, easy 
access to the current code, even if not "official," is something I am sure 
a lot of people using this package would find useful.

At 06:50 AM 03/01/01 -0800, "Pascal" <pb...@oi...> wrote:

>The snapshot is created by sourceforge from the CVS tree.
>
>It wasn't a secret, but because it's not a release version it should
>probably only be used by developers or people who know what to do with
>bugs.. and they, in most cases, already knew about this .. I hope :-)
>
>in any case, you could find information about this in the f.a.q:
>http://www.dynamic-core.net/core/files/faq.dynapi2.html
>
>in the Using CVS part.

Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
pc...@ca... 

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

Hmm, seeing as that website was done quickly (I think by Robert ?) and never
finished maybe some one else wants to finish the job? (unless Robert wants
to finish it himself).

Also the daily snapshot is not considered official because it can be full of
bugs.. there's a large group of people that will get it and want to use it
in projects, and start complaining about all the bugs in it, so that's why
theres a difference between an "official" version and a snapshot which is
developers code (and beta/testing code) and is in a lot of cases stable and
working great, but is not tested.



Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> Verzonden: woensdag 3 januari 2001 16:25
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> OK - thanks. This is pretty much what I figured was going on.
>
> Adding a link to the snapshot in the home page - with an
> explanation of
> what it is - seems like a good idea to me. There hasn't been
> a new official
> "release" for a long time, and with all the ongoing development, easy
> access to the current code, even if not "official," is
> something I am sure
> a lot of people using this package would find useful.
>
> At 06:50 AM 03/01/01 -0800, "Pascal" <pb...@oi...> wrote:
>
> >The snapshot is created by sourceforge from the CVS tree.
> >
> >It wasn't a secret, but because it's not a release version it should
> >probably only be used by developers or people who know what
> to do with
> >bugs.. and they, in most cases, already knew about this .. I hope :-)
> >
> >in any case, you could find information about this in the f.a.q:
> >http://www.dynamic-core.net/core/files/faq.dynapi2.html
> >
> >in the Using CVS part.
>
> Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> pc...@ca...
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Peter C. <pc...@ca...>]

At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater" <rra...@ya...> wrote:
><snip>
>I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since most developers and
>testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site would cause
>people to download it and use it as final code.
>
>Robert Rainwater

But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly two months old. 
We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes, enhancements, and 
style changes since then. People really only have a choice of using a very 
old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.

This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code, people are 
doing the best they can, following their own priorities, etc. But the fact 
remains that releases aren't happening, and are very difficult to arrange 
in this style of development.

Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes, 
bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never likely to be 
a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of development will 
always have segments under active development (until the code becomes 
obsolete and development stops).

Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring about a stable 
code package that can be a new release, the new code is really all that is 
available.


--
Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

Yes there have been changes made to the DynAPI code in two months, but the
release version was a stable one ,working. The major things done in the last
two months are widgets and modifications of old code, not new code. So I
don't think the release is an obsolete version.. it works.

One idea is that maybe one of the admins (not me) can take the current code
and create one new release out of it (fixing known bugs but do nothing else
with it, not adding any new code posted in this list) this should give a new
updated release version containing the new widgets (and style) and the
current code.

Anybody up for it :-)


Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 18:44
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater"
> <rra...@ya...> wrote:
> ><snip>
> >I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since most developers and
> >testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site
> would cause
> >people to download it and use it as final code.
> >
> >Robert Rainwater
>
> But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly two months old.
> We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes,
> enhancements, and
> style changes since then. People really only have a choice of
> using a very
> old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.
>
> This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code,
> people are
> doing the best they can, following their own priorities, etc. But
> the fact
> remains that releases aren't happening, and are very difficult to arrange
> in this style of development.
>
> Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes,
> bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never
> likely to be
> a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of
> development will
> always have segments under active development (until the code becomes
> obsolete and development stops).
>
> Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring
> about a stable
> code package that can be a new release, the new code is really
> all that is
> available.
>
>
> --
> Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...>]

I'd like to mention that, in my experience, patches posted to this list
tend to get lost in the sheer volume of messages.  If you have patches
that improve the overall API, don't forget to post them to sourceforge
too.

scottandrew

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

And also, the guy/girl/admin creating the new release might also want to
take a look at my latest release.. it contains alot of little changes and
updates, and a new set of tutorials + developer reference.. which need some
minor changing to make them DynAPI2 compatible but should provide alot of
help for new developers.

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Scott Andrew
> LePera
> Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 19:23
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> I'd like to mention that, in my experience, patches posted to this list
> tend to get lost in the sheer volume of messages.  If you have patches
> that improve the overall API, don't forget to post them to sourceforge
> too.
>
> scottandrew
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

I can do that in a few days.  There a few updates I need to make to CVS
though.

Like the include bug and the loadQueue array bug.  Hopefully, I will have
the release ready in a few days.  I'll post a release candidate first and
then after some testing, I'll post a new release on Sourceforge.

Also, if anyone knows of any other bug fixes, please let me know (I think
there was one in the inlinecreation).  Does the inline creation work in IE
yet?  I noticed the getOuterHTML for IE is empty.

Robert Rainwater

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken


> Yes there have been changes made to the DynAPI code in two months, but the
> release version was a stable one ,working. The major things done in the
last
> two months are widgets and modifications of old code, not new code. So I
> don't think the release is an obsolete version.. it works.
>
> One idea is that maybe one of the admins (not me) can take the current
code
> and create one new release out of it (fixing known bugs but do nothing
else
> with it, not adding any new code posted in this list) this should give a
new
> updated release version containing the new widgets (and style) and the
> current code.
>
> Anybody up for it :-)
>
>
> Pascal Bestebroer
> pa...@dy...
> http://www.dynamic-core.net
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> > Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 18:44
> > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> >
> >
> > At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater"
> > <rra...@ya...> wrote:
> > ><snip>
> > >I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since most developers
and
> > >testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site
> > would cause
> > >people to download it and use it as final code.
> > >
> > >Robert Rainwater
> >
> > But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly two months
old.
> > We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes,
> > enhancements, and
> > style changes since then. People really only have a choice of
> > using a very
> > old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.
> >
> > This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code,
> > people are
> > doing the best they can, following their own priorities, etc. But
> > the fact
> > remains that releases aren't happening, and are very difficult to
arrange
> > in this style of development.
> >
> > Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes,
> > bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never
> > likely to be
> > a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of
> > development will
> > always have segments under active development (until the code becomes
> > obsolete and development stops).
> >
> > Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring
> > about a stable
> > code package that can be a new release, the new code is really
> > all that is
> > available.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> > pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken - circleanim.js bug

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Robert,

I posted this prior.  Not sure if my solution is the cleanest, but it
worked.  Basically if you set a negative variable in setAngleIncrement to
reverse circle animation 'then' use generatePath method IE5 or IE 5.5 freeze
up solid.  Fix below and attached.

POSTED PRIOR____________________________________________________________
If you generated a path with a (-) negative number in setAngleIncrement
method (to allow you to determine direction, clockwise(-) or counter
clockwise(+) it would freeze up during this line "for (var
a=this.angle;a<=this.angle+Math.PI*2;a+=this.angleinc) {" in the
generatePath method of circle.js.  This method is critical because it allows
you to inherit both 'loop' and 'reset' functionality from pathanim.js and
have some real fun.  Now you setAngleIncrement as a positive for speed and
use setDirection (+ or - 1) to set path direction.  Tested in both IE and NS
on WinME.

added/changed the following lines.  Full js file attached.
____________________________________________________________________________
____________
this.direction = 1

CircleAnimation.prototype.setDirection = function (d) {
 this.direction = d;

CircleAnimation.prototype.generatePath = function(centerX,centerY) {
 if (centerX==null) centerX = this.dlyr!=null? this.dlyr.x : 0;
 if (centerY==null) centerY = this.dlyr!=null? this.dlyr.y : 0;
 var path = [];
 var i = 0;
 for (var a=this.angle;a<=this.angle+Math.PI*2;a+=this.angleinc) {
  path[i] = Math.round(centerX + this.hradius*Math.cos(this.direction*a));
  path[i+1] = Math.round(centerY - this.vradius*Math.sin(this.direction*a));
  i+=2;
 }
 return path;
};
____________________________________________________________________________
____________

cheers,

Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Rainwater" <rra...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken


> I can do that in a few days.  There a few updates I need to make to CVS
> though.
>
> Like the include bug and the loadQueue array bug.  Hopefully, I will have
> the release ready in a few days.  I'll post a release candidate first and
> then after some testing, I'll post a new release on Sourceforge.
>
> Also, if anyone knows of any other bug fixes, please let me know (I think
> there was one in the inlinecreation).  Does the inline creation work in IE
> yet?  I noticed the getOuterHTML for IE is empty.
>
> Robert Rainwater
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> > Yes there have been changes made to the DynAPI code in two months, but
the
> > release version was a stable one ,working. The major things done in the
> last
> > two months are widgets and modifications of old code, not new code. So I
> > don't think the release is an obsolete version.. it works.
> >
> > One idea is that maybe one of the admins (not me) can take the current
> code
> > and create one new release out of it (fixing known bugs but do nothing
> else
> > with it, not adding any new code posted in this list) this should give a
> new
> > updated release version containing the new widgets (and style) and the
> > current code.
> >
> > Anybody up for it :-)
> >
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer
> > pa...@dy...
> > http://www.dynamic-core.net
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> > > Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 18:44
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater"
> > > <rra...@ya...> wrote:
> > > ><snip>
> > > >I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since most developers
> and
> > > >testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site
> > > would cause
> > > >people to download it and use it as final code.
> > > >
> > > >Robert Rainwater
> > >
> > > But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly two months
> old.
> > > We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes,
> > > enhancements, and
> > > style changes since then. People really only have a choice of
> > > using a very
> > > old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.
> > >
> > > This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code,
> > > people are
> > > doing the best they can, following their own priorities, etc. But
> > > the fact
> > > remains that releases aren't happening, and are very difficult to
> arrange
> > > in this style of development.
> > >
> > > Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes,
> > > bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never
> > > likely to be
> > > a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of
> > > development will
> > > always have segments under active development (until the code becomes
> > > obsolete and development stops).
> > >
> > > Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring
> > > about a stable
> > > code package that can be a new release, the new code is really
> > > all that is
> > > available.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> > > pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

I posted a fix a few days ago for the inline creation, making it work under
IE5+ and Mozilla.. haven't tested IE4.

If you want I can post it again when I get home.


Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Robert Rainwater
> Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 19:29
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> I can do that in a few days.  There a few updates I need to
> make to CVS
> though.
>
> Like the include bug and the loadQueue array bug.  Hopefully,
> I will have
> the release ready in a few days.  I'll post a release
> candidate first and
> then after some testing, I'll post a new release on Sourceforge.
>
> Also, if anyone knows of any other bug fixes, please let me
> know (I think
> there was one in the inlinecreation).  Does the inline
> creation work in IE
> yet?  I noticed the getOuterHTML for IE is empty.
>
> Robert Rainwater
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
>
>
> > Yes there have been changes made to the DynAPI code in two
> months, but the
> > release version was a stable one ,working. The major things
> done in the
> last
> > two months are widgets and modifications of old code, not
> new code. So I
> > don't think the release is an obsolete version.. it works.
> >
> > One idea is that maybe one of the admins (not me) can take
> the current
> code
> > and create one new release out of it (fixing known bugs but
> do nothing
> else
> > with it, not adding any new code posted in this list) this
> should give a
> new
> > updated release version containing the new widgets (and
> style) and the
> > current code.
> >
> > Anybody up for it :-)
> >
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer
> > pa...@dy...
> > http://www.dynamic-core.net
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Peter Curran
> > > Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 18:44
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> > >
> > >
> > > At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater"
> > > <rra...@ya...> wrote:
> > > ><snip>
> > > >I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since
> most developers
> and
> > > >testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site
> > > would cause
> > > >people to download it and use it as final code.
> > > >
> > > >Robert Rainwater
> > >
> > > But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly
> two months
> old.
> > > We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes,
> > > enhancements, and
> > > style changes since then. People really only have a choice of
> > > using a very
> > > old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.
> > >
> > > This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code,
> > > people are
> > > doing the best they can, following their own priorities, etc. But
> > > the fact
> > > remains that releases aren't happening, and are very difficult to
> arrange
> > > in this style of development.
> > >
> > > Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes,
> > > bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never
> > > likely to be
> > > a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of
> > > development will
> > > always have segments under active development (until the
> code becomes
> > > obsolete and development stops).
> > >
> > > Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring
> > > about a stable
> > > code package that can be a new release, the new code is really
> > > all that is
> > > available.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank Technologies Inc.
> > > pc...@ca...                           905 792-0618  X535
> > >
> > >
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Gino M. <gin...@br...>]

Please do!  I just joined the list yesterday, and while my project doesn't
use inline creation, I know of others where I work that would benefit from
this.

Thanks,
Gino

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pascal [mailto:pb...@oi...]
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:40 AM
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> 
> 
> I posted a fix a few days ago for the inline creation, making 
> it work under
> IE5+ and Mozilla.. haven't tested IE4.
> 
> If you want I can post it again when I get home.
> 
> 
> Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> Software ontwikkelaar
> Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> http://www.oibv.com
> 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens 
> Robert Rainwater
> > Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 19:29
> > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> >
> >
> > I can do that in a few days.  There a few updates I need to
> > make to CVS
> > though.
> >
> > Like the include bug and the loadQueue array bug.  Hopefully,
> > I will have
> > the release ready in a few days.  I'll post a release
> > candidate first and
> > then after some testing, I'll post a new release on Sourceforge.
> >
> > Also, if anyone knows of any other bug fixes, please let me
> > know (I think
> > there was one in the inlinecreation).  Does the inline
> > creation work in IE
> > yet?  I noticed the getOuterHTML for IE is empty.
> >
> > Robert Rainwater
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 1:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> >
> >
> > > Yes there have been changes made to the DynAPI code in two
> > months, but the
> > > release version was a stable one ,working. The major things
> > done in the
> > last
> > > two months are widgets and modifications of old code, not
> > new code. So I
> > > don't think the release is an obsolete version.. it works.
> > >
> > > One idea is that maybe one of the admins (not me) can take
> > the current
> > code
> > > and create one new release out of it (fixing known bugs but
> > do nothing
> > else
> > > with it, not adding any new code posted in this list) this
> > should give a
> > new
> > > updated release version containing the new widgets (and
> > style) and the
> > > current code.
> > >
> > > Anybody up for it :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer
> > > pa...@dy...
> > > http://www.dynamic-core.net
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens 
> Peter Curran
> > > > Verzonden: donderdag 4 januari 2001 18:44
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 09:14 AM 04/01/01 -0800,  "Robert Rainwater"
> > > > <rra...@ya...> wrote:
> > > > ><snip>
> > > > >I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since
> > most developers
> > and
> > > > >testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link 
> on the site
> > > > would cause
> > > > >people to download it and use it as final code.
> > > > >
> > > > >Robert Rainwater
> > > >
> > > > But what choice is there? The current "release" is nearly
> > two months
> > old.
> > > > We know there have been a tremendous number of bug fixes,
> > > > enhancements, and
> > > > style changes since then. People really only have a choice of
> > > > using a very
> > > > old and substantially obsolete "release," or the current code.
> > > >
> > > > This is not meant as a criticism - obviously, this is free code,
> > > > people are
> > > > doing the best they can, following their own 
> priorities, etc. But
> > > > the fact
> > > > remains that releases aren't happening, and are very 
> difficult to
> > arrange
> > > > in this style of development.
> > > >
> > > > Unless the developers institute such practices as code freezes,
> > > > bug-fix-only periods, extensive testing, etc., there is never
> > > > likely to be
> > > > a "stable" version for use as a new release. This type of
> > > > development will
> > > > always have segments under active development (until the
> > code becomes
> > > > obsolete and development stops).
> > > >
> > > > Unless you are planning some kind of active process to bring
> > > > about a stable
> > > > code package that can be a new release, the new code is really
> > > > all that is
> > > > available.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Curran     Software Developer    Casebank 
> Technologies Inc.
> > > > pc...@ca...                           905 
> 792-0618  X535
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Curran" <pc...@ca...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Snapshot broken


> This "snapshot" appears to be the current version of the code,
> pre-extracted from the CVS. Is that right? If so, it is just what I have
> wanted on a number of occasions. I just want the current code, and don't
> really want to get involved in the full CVS system, unless/until I'm in a
> position to contribute something useful. Is this actually being maintained
> as a reasonably current version of the code, or was this just a one-time
> thing, or ...?

It is done automatically on a daily basis.  Although Sourceforges new server
upgrade seems to have messed up the cron job, this should be fixed soon.

> Secondly, I know my eyesight is going, but I can't find any link to this
> snapshot on the home page, or any other page. Is there one, or was this
> intended to be an insiders' secret that has now escaped?

I would be hesitant to post a link on the site, since most developers and
testers are subscribed to this list.  Putting a link on the site would cause
people to download it and use it as final code.

Robert Rainwater