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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Kevin,

Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:

1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
initiative to only use the most commonly used
arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
arguments inside the constructor in order to try and 
keep it simple, but since we already have background
color I think it's only fitting to have background
image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
at seven?

2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
dictionary object.

3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
setSkinBorder()?


Keep up the good work


PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
layers with skinned borders?


--
Raymond Irving


--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
> Please unpack the attached file in the
> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
> 
> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> background image).
> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
> container.
> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> needed).
> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> element width (border won't clip content).
> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> 
> There is so much more work to do on this I thought
> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> 
> Could someone change the example to show how to use
> preloaded images from cache
> rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> on your browser.
> 
> -
> Kevin.
> 
> 
> > Hello Everyone,
> > 
> > I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
> > classes as promised
> > 
> > You can see a live demo here:
> > 
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> > 
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> > 
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> > 
> > Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> > BorderManager Class
> > 
> > 
> > Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> changes
> > to CVS?
> > 
> > 
> > PS. Files are attached
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > http://search.yahoo.com

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
name=border-update.zip



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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

This sounds very good, but Kevin files weren't in your mail. Is it  
possible to access it and have a look at it ?

Thanks

Benoit

On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 11:53  AM, Raymond Irving wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:
>
> 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
> DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> initiative to only use the most commonly used
> arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> arguments inside the constructor in order to try and
> keep it simple, but since we already have background
> color I think it's only fitting to have background
> image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
> at seven?
>
> 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
> above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
> dictionary object.
>
> 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> setSkinBorder()?
>
>
> Keep up the good work
>
>
> PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> layers with skinned borders?
>
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
>> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
>> thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
>> Please unpack the attached file in the
>> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
>>
>> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
>> background image).
>> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
>> container.
>> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
>> needed).
>> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
>> element width (border won't clip content).
>> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
>> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
>> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
>> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
>>
>> There is so much more work to do on this I thought
>> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
>>
>> Could someone change the example to show how to use
>> preloaded images from cache
>> rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
>> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
>> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
>> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
>> on your browser.
>>
>> -
>> Kevin.
>>
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
>>> classes as promised
>>>
>>> You can see a live demo here:
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
>>>
>>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
>>> BorderManager Class
>>>
>>>
>>> Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
>> changes
>>> to CVS?
>>>
>>>
>>> PS. Files are attached
>>>
>>> --
>>> Raymond Irving
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________
>>> Do you Yahoo!?
>>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>>> http://search.yahoo.com
>
>> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
> name=border-update.zip
>
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Benoit Marchant <mar...@ma...> wrote:
> This sounds very good, but Kevin files weren't in
> your mail. Is it  
> possible to access it and have a look at it ?

It seems that the files are too big to go through the
mailing list. I've asked kevin to send it via some
other means as he might have gotten the same message I
got when trying to send it to the group.

--
Raymond Irving

> 
> Thanks
> 
> Benoit
> 
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 11:53  AM, Raymond
> Irving wrote:
> 
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Nice work! It looks great! I have a few
> suggestions:
> >
> > 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time
> ago
> > DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> > difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> > initiative to only use the most commonly used
> > arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> > arguments inside the constructor in order to try
> and
> > keep it simple, but since we already have
> background
> > color I think it's only fitting to have background
> > image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we
> stop
> > at seven?
> >
> > 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
> > above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
> > dictionary object.
> >
> > 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> > setSkinBorder()?
> >
> >
> > Keep up the good work
> >
> >
> > PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> > layers with skinned borders?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
> >
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> >> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> >> thoughts on borders which are similar to
> Benoit's.
> >> Please unpack the attached file in the
> >> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In
> principle:
> >>
> >> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> >> background image).
> >> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
> >> container.
> >> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> >> needed).
> >> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> >> element width (border won't clip content).
> >> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin
> widths
> >> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> >> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
> >> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> >>
> >> There is so much more work to do on this I
> thought
> >> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> >>
> >> Could someone change the example to show how to
> use
> >> preloaded images from cache
> >> rather than strings. Does <layer
> background=img.src
> >> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> >> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please
> help
> >> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> >> on your browser.
> >>
> >> -
> >> Kevin.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
> >>> classes as promised
> >>>
> >>> You can see a live demo here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/
> 
> > dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/
> 
> > dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/
> 
> > dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> >>>
> >>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> >>> BorderManager Class
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> >> changes
> >>> to CVS?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> PS. Files are attached
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Raymond Irving
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________
> >>> Do you Yahoo!?
> >>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> >>> http://search.yahoo.com
> >
> >> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
> > name=border-update.zip
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
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[Dynapi-Dev] An Application Idea

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello Everyone,

I just came up with the following application idea:

With Kevin's new border feature it's possible for us
to create online photo albums with selective picture
frames, etc. We could even create an online postcard
service, sell online paintings, etc. These are just a
few of the cool things we can now do with the new
border manager features.


--
Raymond Irving

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] An Application Idea

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just came up with the following application idea:
> 
> With Kevin's new border feature it's possible for us
> to create online photo albums with selective picture
> frames, etc. We could even create an online postcard
> service, sell online paintings, etc. These are just a
> few of the cool things we can now do with the new
> border manager features.

Yes - well I borrowed the frame images from one of
those auto-generate sites. I'd like to see that drag corner
resize example with real content - either set HTML or 
load panel - then comes scroll panel with the same
cross-browser concept. I know individual WxH from
the corners isn't used for the side/border anchors at the
moment. I just thought this example would show top,
bottom, left and right (or N/E/S/W) could be different
sizes using the corners (fixed anchors) as needed.

-
Kevin.

> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

Benoit I have sent you a copy to your own e-mail if that is ok.

Kevin.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Benoit Marchant" <mar...@ma...>
To: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
Cc: "DynAPI-Dev" <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)


> This sounds very good, but Kevin files weren't in your mail. Is it  
> possible to access it and have a look at it ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Benoit
> 
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 11:53  AM, Raymond Irving wrote:
> 
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:
> >
> > 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
> > DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> > difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> > initiative to only use the most commonly used
> > arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> > arguments inside the constructor in order to try and
> > keep it simple, but since we already have background
> > color I think it's only fitting to have background
> > image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
> > at seven?
> >
> > 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
> > above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
> > dictionary object.
> >
> > 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> > setSkinBorder()?
> >
> >
> > Keep up the good work
> >
> >
> > PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> > layers with skinned borders?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >
> >
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> >> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> >> thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
> >> Please unpack the attached file in the
> >> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
> >>
> >> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> >> background image).
> >> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
> >> container.
> >> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> >> needed).
> >> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> >> element width (border won't clip content).
> >> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
> >> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> >> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
> >> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> >>
> >> There is so much more work to do on this I thought
> >> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> >>
> >> Could someone change the example to show how to use
> >> preloaded images from cache
> >> rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
> >> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> >> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
> >> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> >> on your browser.
> >>
> >> -
> >> Kevin.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
> >>> classes as promised
> >>>
> >>> You can see a live demo here:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> > dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> > dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> > dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> >>>
> >>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> >>> BorderManager Class
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> >> changes
> >>> to CVS?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> PS. Files are attached
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Raymond Irving
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __________________________________
> >>> Do you Yahoo!?
> >>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> >>> http://search.yahoo.com
> >
> >> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
> > name=border-update.zip
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > http://search.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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> > The only event dedicated to issues related to Linux enterprise  
> > solutions
> > www.enterpriselinuxforum.com
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:
> 
> 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
> DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> initiative to only use the most commonly used
> arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> arguments inside the constructor in order to try and 
> keep it simple, but since we already have background
> color I think it's only fitting to have background
> image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
> at seven?

Ok stop at 7 but 10 is a nice number ;-) and we can have
the full set with anchor, visible and z-index? 
 
> 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
> above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
> dictionary object.

I nearly added anchor to the constructor but stopped
Though I dropped x,y from Skin as it uses anchors.
 
> 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> setSkinBorder()?

Fine. One thing I was going to add was a borderBasic.
i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So container is
set to border color and content is center anchored.

-
Kevin.


> 
> Keep up the good work
> 
> 
> PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> layers with skinned borders?
> 
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> > ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> > thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
> > Please unpack the attached file in the
> > latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
> > 
> > 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> > background image).
> > 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
> > container.
> > 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> > needed).
> > 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> > element width (border won't clip content).
> > 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
> > (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> > 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
> > defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> > 
> > There is so much more work to do on this I thought
> > I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> > 
> > Could someone change the example to show how to use
> > preloaded images from cache
> > rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
> > ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> > have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
> > and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> > on your browser.
> > 
> > -
> > Kevin.
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > > 
> > > I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
> > > classes as promised
> > > 
> > > You can see a live demo here:
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> > > 
> > > Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> > > BorderManager Class
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> > changes
> > > to CVS?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PS. Files are attached
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > > http://search.yahoo.com
> 
> > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
> name=border-update.zip
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

See below:

--- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> 
> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > Nice work! It looks great! I have a few
> suggestions:
> > 
> > 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time
> ago
> > DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> > difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> > initiative to only use the most commonly used
> > arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> > arguments inside the constructor in order to try
> and 
> > keep it simple, but since we already have
> background
> > color I think it's only fitting to have background
> > image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we
> stop
> > at seven?
> 
> Ok stop at 7 but 10 is a nice number ;-) and we can
> have
> the full set with anchor, visible and z-index? 

I still think 7 is two much :) But we can work with
that.


> > 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> > setSkinBorder()?

or setBorderSkin()? Well, you choose.

> Fine. One thing I was going to add was a
> borderBasic.
> i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So
> container is
> set to border color and content is center anchored.

Sounds ok to me. Are you talking about a
setBorderBasic() function? Something like an outline?
IMO border basic does not sound like the correct name
for this type of border design. How about setOutline
or setBorderOutline?


--
Raymond Irving


> 
> -
> Kevin.
> 
> 
> > 
> > Keep up the good work
> > 
> > 
> > PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> > layers with skinned borders?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > 
> > > Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> > > ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> > > thoughts on borders which are similar to
> Benoit's.
> > > Please unpack the attached file in the
> > > latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In
> principle:
> > > 
> > > 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> > > background image).
> > > 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners +
> 1
> > > container.
> > > 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> > > needed).
> > > 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> > > element width (border won't clip content).
> > > 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin
> widths
> > > (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> > > 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors
> be
> > > defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> > > 
> > > There is so much more work to do on this I
> thought
> > > I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> > > 
> > > Could someone change the example to show how to
> use
> > > preloaded images from cache
> > > rather than strings. Does <layer
> background=img.src
> > > ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> > > have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please
> help
> > > and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> > > on your browser.
> > > 
> > > -
> > > Kevin.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > 
> > > > I've completed the BorderManager and
> Highligther
> > > > classes as promised
> > > > 
> > > > You can see a live demo here:
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> > > > 
> > > > Note: The setBorder() function now requires
> the
> > > > BorderManager Class
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> > > changes
> > > > to CVS?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PS. Files are attached
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Raymond Irving
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

message too long.. so response here
:-)

Borders:----------
.setBorder(thickness,color)
would need to overwrite addchild, addeventlistener, sethtml, setbgcolor,
setsize.. any others?

I honestly think this should be the default method of adding borders.
As is uses less layer, and no images.
It is also the most simple.
With this, you would need a getInnerWidth, to get he width of the content
layer
The border method previously release should be
setBorderAdvanced() and should mopst likly use a dictionary object
I.E. setBoderAdvanced({leftwidth:2,leftcolor:red})
this allows you to set as many or few borders as you want, and set their
parameters induvidually.

DynLayer Arguments:----------
I kinda like it as it is.. I can concide adding one more for bgimage
for more params, I'm thinking the dictionary object..
Or even a library extension if you really want more than 6 native arguments
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>
To: "Dynapi-Dev" <Dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files
attached)


>
> See below:
>
> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >
> > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> >
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > Nice work! It looks great! I have a few
> > suggestions:
> > >
> > > 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time
> > ago
> > > DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> > > difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> > > initiative to only use the most commonly used
> > > arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> > > arguments inside the constructor in order to try
> > and
> > > keep it simple, but since we already have
> > background
> > > color I think it's only fitting to have background
> > > image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we
> > stop
> > > at seven?
> >
> > Ok stop at 7 but 10 is a nice number ;-) and we can
> > have
> > the full set with anchor, visible and z-index?
>
> I still think 7 is two much :) But we can work with
> that.
>
>
> > > 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> > > setSkinBorder()?
>
> or setBorderSkin()? Well, you choose.
>
> > Fine. One thing I was going to add was a
> > borderBasic.
> > i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So
> > container is
> > set to border color and content is center anchored.
>
> Sounds ok to me. Are you talking about a
> setBorderBasic() function? Something like an outline?
> IMO border basic does not sound like the correct name
> for this type of border design. How about setOutline
> or setBorderOutline?
>
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
> >
> > -
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Keep up the good work
> > >
> > >
> > > PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> > > layers with skinned borders?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Raymond Irving
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> > > > ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> > > > thoughts on borders which are similar to
> > Benoit's.
> > > > Please unpack the attached file in the
> > > > latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In
> > principle:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> > > > background image).
> > > > 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners +
> > 1
> > > > container.
> > > > 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> > > > needed).
> > > > 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> > > > element width (border won't clip content).
> > > > 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin
> > widths
> > > > (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> > > > 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors
> > be
> > > > defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> > > >
> > > > There is so much more work to do on this I
> > thought
> > > > I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> > > >
> > > > Could someone change the example to show how to
> > use
> > > > preloaded images from cache
> > > > rather than strings. Does <layer
> > background=img.src
> > > > ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> > > > have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please
> > help
> > > > and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> > > > on your browser.
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > Kevin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've completed the BorderManager and
> > Highligther
> > > > > classes as promised
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see a live demo here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.bordermanager.h
tml
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.highlighter.htm
l
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/dynapi.gui.focusmanager.ht
ml
> > > > >
> > > > > Note: The setBorder() function now requires
> > the
> > > > > BorderManager Class
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> > > > changes
> > > > > to CVS?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PS. Files are attached
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Raymond Irving
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > __________________________________
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

Very nice !! See my comments bellow.

On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 01:14  PM, Kevin wrote:

>
> "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:
>>
>> 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
>> DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
>> difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
>> initiative to only use the most commonly used
>> arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
>> arguments inside the constructor in order to try and
>> keep it simple, but since we already have background
>> color I think it's only fitting to have background
>> image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
>> at seven?
>
> Ok stop at 7 but 10 is a nice number ;-) and we can have
> the full set with anchor, visible and z-index?
>
>> 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
>> above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
>> dictionary object.
>
> I nearly added anchor to the constructor but stopped
> Though I dropped x,y from Skin as it uses anchors.
>
>> 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
>> setSkinBorder()?
>
> Fine. One thing I was going to add was a borderBasic.
> i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So container is
> set to border color and content is center anchored.

I agree that if you happens to have all borders of equal size and  
color, it would be more efficient. But this should be an implementation  
detail hidden in the setBorder method rather than a new api.

Also it's kind of an internal class, I'm not sure Skin is a right name  
for what is really a frame part.

I have used png image files with alpha transparencies (for drop  
shadows) , and unfortunately, the most supported way for a proper  
rendering of the alpha transparency is to use the image in a tag IMG.  
If you use such a file as a div background image, it doesn't render as  
expected. Which means that if the image files are png, a special case  
should be made and then use the html for the different borders using a  
png. Which means that when the size change, the html has to be re  
written to stretch the png so se, it works fine for drop shadows where  
I had to do this.

Why couldn't we have one setBorder ? or setFrame() ? Then we either  
automatically pass a dictionary that describes the frame, and that  
dictionary could cover all configuration about individual borders  
size/color/image, or do a Frame class with different subclasses ?
I'm worried about the hierachy (neat by the way) manipulation implied  
by the setBorder() in term of performances. If you can also do it the  
other way, creating a frame and adding the content, you can have the  
same result and less manipulations I would think. Then setBorder()  
could take a Frame instance as an argument. Which means that if you  
need a special kind of frame, you would subclass Frame and that's all,  
which sounds easier than overriding setBorder.

I really need to finish the drag additions, and I'll do a corner  
resizable frame as an example !

Feedback ?

Benoit

>
> -
> Kevin.
>
>
>>
>> Keep up the good work
>>
>>
>> PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
>> layers with skinned borders?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raymond Irving
>>
>>
>> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
>>> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
>>> thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
>>> Please unpack the attached file in the
>>> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
>>>
>>> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
>>> background image).
>>> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
>>> container.
>>> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
>>> needed).
>>> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
>>> element width (border won't clip content).
>>> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
>>> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
>>> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
>>> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
>>>
>>> There is so much more work to do on this I thought
>>> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
>>>
>>> Could someone change the example to show how to use
>>> preloaded images from cache
>>> rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
>>> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
>>> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
>>> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
>>> on your browser.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Kevin.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
>>>> classes as promised
>>>>
>>>> You can see a live demo here:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
>> dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
>> dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
>> dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
>>>>
>>>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
>>>> BorderManager Class
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
>>> changes
>>>> to CVS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS. Files are attached
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raymond Irving
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________
>>>> Do you Yahoo!?
>>>> The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
>>>> http://search.yahoo.com
>>
>>> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/x-zip-compressed
>> name=border-update.zip
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Please see below:

--- Benoit Marchant <mar...@ma...> wrote:
> >> 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> >> setSkinBorder()?
> >
> > Fine. One thing I was going to add was a
> borderBasic.
> > i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So
> container is
> > set to border color and content is center
> anchored.
> 
> I agree that if you happens to have all borders of
> equal size and  
> color, it would be more efficient. But this should
> be an implementation  
> detail hidden in the setBorder method rather than a
> new api.
> 
> Also it's kind of an internal class, I'm not sure
> Skin is a right name  
> for what is really a frame part.

Well... That's True.

> 
> I have used png image files with alpha
> transparencies (for drop  
> shadows) , and unfortunately, the most supported way
> for a proper  
> rendering of the alpha transparency is to use the
> image in a tag IMG.  
> If you use such a file as a div background image, it
> doesn't render as  
> expected. Which means that if the image files are
> png, a special case  
> should be made and then use the html for the
> different borders using a  
> png. Which means that when the size change, the html
> has to be re  
> written to stretch the png so se, it works fine for
> drop shadows where  
> I had to do this.

Have you ever thought about making a ShadowManager or
DropShaowManager? Something like
lyr.setShadow(true,offsetx,offsety)?

> Why couldn't we have one setBorder ? or setFrame() ?
> Then we either  
> automatically pass a dictionary that describes the
> frame, and that  
> dictionary could cover all configuration about
> individual borders  
> size/color/image, or do a Frame class with different
> subclasses ?
> I'm worried about the hierachy (neat by the way)
> manipulation implied  
> by the setBorder() in term of performances. If you
> can also do it the  
> other way, creating a frame and adding the content,
> you can have the  
> same result and less manipulations I would think.
> Then setBorder()  
> could take a Frame instance as an argument. Which
> means that if you  
> need a special kind of frame, you would subclass
> Frame and that's all,  
> which sounds easier than overriding setBorder.

Merging the two functions might not be such of a good
thing as this might lead to great levels of complexity
for the user. Have two separate functions can simplify
things for the user.  If we can find a suitable name
then that should be fine else kevin will have to fnd a
way to merge the two functions without cause two much
complexity.


> I really need to finish the drag additions, and I'll
> do a corner  
> resizable frame as an example !
> 
> Feedback ?

Sounds good to me.

> 
> Benoit
> 
> >
> > -
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Keep up the good work
> >>
> >>
> >> PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> >> layers with skinned borders?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raymond Irving
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> >>> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> >>> thoughts on borders which are similar to
> Benoit's.
> >>> Please unpack the attached file in the
> >>> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In
> principle:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> >>> background image).
> >>> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners +
> 1
> >>> container.
> >>> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> >>> needed).
> >>> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> >>> element width (border won't clip content).
> >>> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin
> widths
> >>> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> >>> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors
> be
> >>> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> >>>
> >>> There is so much more work to do on this I
> thought
> >>> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> >>>
> >>> Could someone change the example to show how to
> use
> >>> preloaded images from cache
> >>> rather than strings. Does <layer
> background=img.src
> >>> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> >>> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please
> help
> >>> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> >>> on your browser.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Kevin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've completed the BorderManager and
> Highligther
> >>>> classes as promised
> >>>>
> >>>> You can see a live demo here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager - setBorder() & setBorder2() simplified

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Hello,

How about using the format setBorder(b,c,useFrames)?

When useFrames is set to true the setBorder() function
will use the new outer frame design used by kevin in
setBorder2.

Any comments?

--
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager - setBorder() & setBorder2() simplified

[Benoit M. <mar...@ma...>]

I think a setBorder(borderDefinition) should be enough.

ok it forces you to build a data structure to describe what you want, 
but after all that what you would have to do with css if you were to 
use it anyway. We should try to be as close as possible to the css 
keywords for the same things, and name the new features like corners 
and border images in the same spirit.


Wouldn't that be simpler ? And for the corner I think we should  use 
top-left instead of north-west to stau closer to css vocabulary.

What do you think ?

Benoit

Bellow some descriptions of css keywords and usage.

http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_border.asp

On Thursday, May 15, 2003, at 01:58  PM, Raymond Irving wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How about using the format setBorder(b,c,useFrames)?
>
> When useFrames is set to true the setBorder() function
> will use the new outer frame design used by kevin in
> setBorder2.
>
> Any comments?
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] BorderManager & Highlighter UPDATED - (files attached)

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

Thanks Benoit. I have taken your comments though no
answers yet. Could you send some of those alpha trans'
png frame images showing 'drop shadow'. I'd like to see
them and understand then try and use <img> tags for the
next version.

-
Kevin.

"Benoit Marchant" <mar...@ma...> wrote:
> Very nice !! See my comments bellow.
> 
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 01:14  PM, Kevin wrote:
> 
> >
> > "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin,
> >>
> >> Nice work! It looks great! I have a few suggestions:
> >>
> >> 1) DynLayer(html,x,y,w,h,color,image) - Some time ago
> >> DynLayer had so many arguments that it was very
> >> difficult to work with. With 2.9 Dan took the
> >> initiative to only use the most commonly used
> >> arguments. I would suggest that we keep only 6
> >> arguments inside the constructor in order to try and
> >> keep it simple, but since we already have background
> >> color I think it's only fitting to have background
> >> image as part of the constructor. Agree? Can we stop
> >> at seven?
> >
> > Ok stop at 7 but 10 is a nice number ;-) and we can have
> > the full set with anchor, visible and z-index?
> >
> >> 2) Highlighter(x,y,w,h,color,image) -  the same as
> >> above. For Skins() "image" is already part of the
> >> dictionary object.
> >
> > I nearly added anchor to the constructor but stopped
> > Though I dropped x,y from Skin as it uses anchors.
> >
> >> 3) Another name for setBorder2 could be
> >> setSkinBorder()?
> >
> > Fine. One thing I was going to add was a borderBasic.
> > i.e. Just 2 layers container and content. So container is
> > set to border color and content is center anchored.
> 
> I agree that if you happens to have all borders of equal size and  
> color, it would be more efficient. But this should be an implementation  
> detail hidden in the setBorder method rather than a new api.
> 
> Also it's kind of an internal class, I'm not sure Skin is a right name  
> for what is really a frame part.
> 
> I have used png image files with alpha transparencies (for drop  
> shadows) , and unfortunately, the most supported way for a proper  
> rendering of the alpha transparency is to use the image in a tag IMG.  
> If you use such a file as a div background image, it doesn't render as  
> expected. Which means that if the image files are png, a special case  
> should be made and then use the html for the different borders using a  
> png. Which means that when the size change, the html has to be re  
> written to stretch the png so se, it works fine for drop shadows where  
> I had to do this.
> 
> Why couldn't we have one setBorder ? or setFrame() ? Then we either  
> automatically pass a dictionary that describes the frame, and that  
> dictionary could cover all configuration about individual borders  
> size/color/image, or do a Frame class with different subclasses ?
> I'm worried about the hierachy (neat by the way) manipulation implied  
> by the setBorder() in term of performances. If you can also do it the  
> other way, creating a frame and adding the content, you can have the  
> same result and less manipulations I would think. Then setBorder()  
> could take a Frame instance as an argument. Which means that if you  
> need a special kind of frame, you would subclass Frame and that's all,  
> which sounds easier than overriding setBorder.
> 
> I really need to finish the drag additions, and I'll do a corner  
> resizable frame as an example !
> 
> Feedback ?
> 
> Benoit
> 
> >
> > -
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Keep up the good work
> >>
> >>
> >> PS. Have to tested the creation speed of say 100
> >> layers with skinned borders?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Raymond Irving
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Kevin <ke...@ke...> wrote:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> Raymond, I hope you don't mind me extending you
> >>> ideas. I've had a go at presenting my
> >>> thoughts on borders which are similar to Benoit's.
> >>> Please unpack the attached file in the
> >>> latest dynapi3x root folder/directory. In principle:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Images in highlighters (just auto repeat
> >>> background image).
> >>> 2) Have 1 content layer + 4 sides + 4 corners + 1
> >>> container.
> >>> 3) Moving container moves all (no group manager
> >>> needed).
> >>> 4) Border2 is DOM2 spec' i.e. border is outside
> >>> element width (border won't clip content).
> >>> 5) Offer flexibility to have different skin widths
> >>> (perhaps someone can complete this?)
> >>> 6) Let transparent gifs with background colors be
> >>> defaulted and configurable (unfinished).
> >>>
> >>> There is so much more work to do on this I thought
> >>> I'd stop here and see if it's close!
> >>>
> >>> Could someone change the example to show how to use
> >>> preloaded images from cache
> >>> rather than strings. Does <layer background=img.src
> >>> ..> do it for ns4? These updates
> >>> have been tested on Linux NS4/Mozilla. Please help
> >>> and offer the fix if it doesn't work
> >>> on your browser.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Kevin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've completed the BorderManager and Highligther
> >>>> classes as promised
> >>>>
> >>>> You can see a live demo here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.bordermanager.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.highlighter.html
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> http://www24.brinkster.com/dyntools/next/examples/ 
> >> dynapi.gui.focusmanager.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Note: The setBorder() function now requires the
> >>>> BorderManager Class
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Any comments? Can I go ahead and upload these
> >>> changes
> >>>> to CVS?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> PS. Files are attached
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Raymond Irving
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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