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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

1) events work correctly, only event code not working is mouse events on
child layers in IE5.5..  Please make sure that your widget is using the
correct way (i.e. precreation events.. see other widgets for more info)

2) no clue.. haven't looked at it

3) not a label issue, but a child-event issue only happening in IE5.5

4) no clue.

cya,

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> Verzonden: dinsdag 9 januari 2001 23:28
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
>
> These are remaining issues, that I know of.
>
> 1) Event problems.  None of my widgets 'on mouseover' work
> right now in IE
> or NS since precreation was introduced.  If you test
> ButtonImage you can see
> what I mean.  Also, this widget is throwing an error at line
> 49 (I believe)
> in NS.  Line 49 is related to setImage with a boolean for
> checkbox vs not a
> check box.
>
> This might be related to removal of get.component methods.
> Worked in IE til
> I updated them to the new methods.  But I am not sure what
> replaced this, so
> I have to go back and read up on alot of code I am unfamiliar with.
>
> 2) Scrollpane currently doesn't render knobs and bars in
> IE5.5 on Inw ME.
> Works fine in NS.
>
> 3) Select text Label issues (ie) in child elements.  Pascal
> mentioned he was
> working on this last night.
>
> 4) Hard to explain this one but it might provide clues as to
> where to look.
> I had a viewport widget with an oversized image element
> (content).  I used a
> series of moveTo's to window a portion of the element in a
> viewport.  All
> worked wonderous til recent updates, now moveTo does nothing.
>  I fixed this
> by dumping the viewport and using a clipped dynlayer with
> moveTo's.  Might
> be related to auto-size detection, just a guess.
>
> Later
>
>
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate.. the tutorial is
something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I find the time)
but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this list can do..
just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not found in DynAPI)
and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
DynDocument objects.

I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people on this list, alot
of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute anything
as simple as copy-and-pasting text.

anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with the dynacore
release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff actually..just
replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the listener not part
of the prototype but part of the constructor)

Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not personal
to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute anything..
it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still learning) this
"thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a simple task you
only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).

cya (and have fun :),

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
>
> Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> precreate in the
> widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work in IE or NS.
> Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> on it can be
> found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> from Dan on
> 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> and the last
> time you updated them.
>
> The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> events don't
> fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> event related to
> the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in the onLoad()
> section of the webpage.
>
> Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will understand it.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master debugger I am not, but
I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for bloodshot eyes and
pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how much time I
spend trying to make a contribution.

I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
contribution.

I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a mere pup among
men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


> I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate.. the tutorial is
> something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I find the time)
> but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this list can do..
> just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not found in DynAPI)
> and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> DynDocument objects.
>
> I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people on this list,
alot
> of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
anything
> as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
>
> anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with the dynacore
> release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff actually..just
> replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the listener not part
> of the prototype but part of the constructor)
>
> Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
personal
> to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
anything..
> it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still learning) this
> "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a simple task
you
> only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
>
> cya (and have fun :),
>
> Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> Software ontwikkelaar
> Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> http://www.oibv.com
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> >
> > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > precreate in the
> > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work in IE or NS.
> > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > on it can be
> > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > from Dan on
> > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > and the last
> > time you updated them.
> >
> > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > events don't
> > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > event related to
> > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in the onLoad()
> > section of the webpage.
> >
> > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will understand it.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Nuno F. <nun...@wi...>]

	>I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people on this list,
alot
	>of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
	>documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
anything
	>as simple as copy-and-pasting text.

You're right of course. Even though the "devref" is very very good I feel
it's
a bit overcomplicated to someone not used to the DynAPI. I started to
compile
a list of methods (properties will come later :)) by class (file), to
publish
to this list, so you guys can correct or add to it if I forgot something or
made some mistake. The main goal of this list is not provide info for you
guru's
out there (you already breathe the stuff!) but a small handy reference
to people with less experience in Javascript and DynAPI.

It's a small effort but it's a start, and like you said it's no good if we
only
whine and do nothing about it.

Keep it up!

NunoF

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

so.. what's your age then :-)

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com 

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> 
> 
> I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master 
> debugger I am not, but
> I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for 
> bloodshot eyes and
> pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how 
> much time I
> spend trying to make a contribution.
> 
> I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> contribution.
> 
> I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a 
> mere pup among
> men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> 
> 
> > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate.. 
> the tutorial is
> > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I 
> find the time)
> > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this 
> list can do..
> > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not 
> found in DynAPI)
> > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> > DynDocument objects.
> >
> > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people 
> on this list,
> alot
> > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
> anything
> > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> >
> > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with 
> the dynacore
> > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff 
> actually..just
> > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the 
> listener not part
> > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> >
> > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
> personal
> > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
> anything..
> > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still 
> learning) this
> > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a 
> simple task
> you
> > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> >
> > cya (and have fun :),
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens 
> Raymond Smith
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > precreate in the
> > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work 
> in IE or NS.
> > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > on it can be
> > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > from Dan on
> > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > and the last
> > > time you updated them.
> > >
> > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > events don't
> > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > event related to
> > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in 
> the onLoad()
> > > section of the webpage.
> > >
> > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will 
> understand it.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Yoda would look young

I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are letting rust.
I didn't forget.

Later, 4am here...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


> so.. what's your age then :-)
>
> Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> Software ontwikkelaar
> Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> http://www.oibv.com
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> >
> > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > debugger I am not, but
> > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > bloodshot eyes and
> > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > much time I
> > spend trying to make a contribution.
> >
> > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > contribution.
> >
> > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > mere pup among
> > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> >
> > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > the tutorial is
> > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > find the time)
> > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > list can do..
> > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > found in DynAPI)
> > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> > > DynDocument objects.
> > >
> > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > on this list,
> > alot
> > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
> > anything
> > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > >
> > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > the dynacore
> > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > actually..just
> > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > listener not part
> > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > >
> > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
> > personal
> > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
> > anything..
> > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > learning) this
> > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > simple task
> > you
> > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > >
> > > cya (and have fun :),
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > http://www.oibv.com
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > Raymond Smith
> > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > precreate in the
> > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > in IE or NS.
> > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > on it can be
> > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > from Dan on
> > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > and the last
> > > > time you updated them.
> > > >
> > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > events don't
> > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > event related to
> > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > the onLoad()
> > > > section of the webpage.
> > > >
> > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > understand it.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal and me ? I
find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morning I find
40 mails waiting for me....

Nevermind

Raymond Smith wrote:

> Yoda would look young
>
> I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are letting rust.
> I didn't forget.
>
> Later, 4am here...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> > so.. what's your age then :-)
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > debugger I am not, but
> > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > much time I
> > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > >
> > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > mere pup among
> > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > the tutorial is
> > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > find the time)
> > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > list can do..
> > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > >
> > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > on this list,
> > > alot
> > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
> > > anything
> > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > >
> > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > the dynacore
> > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > actually..just
> > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > listener not part
> > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > >
> > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
> > > personal
> > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
> > > anything..
> > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > learning) this
> > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > simple task
> > > you
> > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > >
> > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > on it can be
> > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > and the last
> > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > events don't
> > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > event related to
> > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > the onLoad()
> > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > understand it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Nuno F. <nun...@wi...>]

Hi Raymond,

I'm in Portugal, and i'm more or less on GMT time... :)

best,

NunoF



-----Original Message-----
From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Jordi
'IlMaestro' Ministral
Sent: quarta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2001 11:53
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal and me
? I
find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morning I
find
40 mails waiting for me....

Nevermind

Raymond Smith wrote:

> Yoda would look young
>
> I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are letting
rust.
> I didn't forget.
>
> Later, 4am here...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> > so.. what's your age then :-)
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > debugger I am not, but
> > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > much time I
> > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > >
> > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > mere pup among
> > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > the tutorial is
> > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > find the time)
> > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > list can do..
> > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > >
> > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > on this list,
> > > alot
> > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
> > > anything
> > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > >
> > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > the dynacore
> > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > actually..just
> > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > listener not part
> > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > >
> > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
> > > personal
> > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
> > > anything..
> > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > learning) this
> > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > simple task
> > > you
> > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > >
> > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > on it can be
> > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > and the last
> > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > events don't
> > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > event related to
> > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > the onLoad()
> > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > understand it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[<hv...@ya...>]

Henrik from Sweden also with you, but I'm working nightshift and has a =
broadband connection at home, so you could get a post from me any hour =
of the day (and night). I'm keeping a low profile on this list for now =
though - monitoring and developing in the small...

Henrik V=E5glin  [ hv...@ya... ]

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Nuno Ferreira" <nun...@wi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


> Hi Raymond,
>=20
> I'm in Portugal, and i'm more or less on GMT time... :)
>=20
> best,
>=20
> NunoF
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Jordi
> 'IlMaestro' Ministral
> Sent: quarta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2001 11:53
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>=20
>=20
> Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal =
and me
> ? I
> find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each =
morning I
> find
> 40 mails waiting for me....
>=20
> Nevermind
>=20
> Raymond Smith wrote:
>=20
> > Yoda would look young
> >
> > I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are =
letting
> rust.
> > I didn't forget.
> >
> > Later, 4am here...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> > > so.. what's your age then :-)
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > http://www.oibv.com
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond =
Smith
> > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > > debugger I am not, but
> > > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > > much time I
> > > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > > mere pup among
> > > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > > the tutorial is
> > > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > > find the time)
> > > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > > list can do..
> > > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the =
DynLayer and
> > > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > > on this list,
> > > > alot
> > > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not =
much
> > > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to =
contribute
> > > > anything
> > > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > > the dynacore
> > > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > > actually..just
> > > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > > listener not part
> > > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything =
(definetly not
> > > > personal
> > > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to =
contribute
> > > > anything..
> > > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > > learning) this
> > > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > > simple task
> > > > you
> > > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge =
of
> > > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > > >
> > > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > > >
> > > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > > on it can be
> > > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > > and the last
> > > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > > events don't
> > > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > > event related to
> > > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > > the onLoad()
> > > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > > understand it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>=20


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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Marc v. L. <ja...@ja...>]

At 12:52 10/01/2001, you wrote:
>Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal and 
>me ? I
>find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morning 
>I find
>40 mails waiting for me....


Livre in France (warm south, in Nice), but I'm Dutch (as Pascal).
Using DynAPI2 for a web site to come. When some widgets I wrote are good 
enough (especially some (too) heavy-weighted collapseMenus (which are more 
like the one found in Dan's DynAPI 1) and more commented, I will post them...
Until then, I'm still sorting all those mails in the morning.


Marc

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[<rua...@ee...>]

Yep, I'm on the list and live in Madrid, Spain. I've not contributed =
yet.
I've been trying to figure out exactly how the DynAPI works, but =
there's so
much code and so little comments. Hope I'll be of more help in the =
future.

Ruairi

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral [mailto:jmi...@or...]
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles 10 de enero de 2001 12:53
Para: dyn...@li...
Asunto: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal =
and me
? I
find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each =
morning I
find
40 mails waiting for me....

Nevermind

Raymond Smith wrote:

> Yoda would look young
>
> I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are =
letting
rust.
> I didn't forget.
>
> Later, 4am here...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> > so.. what's your age then :-)
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond =
Smith
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > debugger I am not, but
> > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > much time I
> > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > >
> > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > mere pup among
> > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > the tutorial is
> > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > find the time)
> > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > list can do..
> > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer =
and
> > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > >
> > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > on this list,
> > > alot
> > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to =
contribute
> > > anything
> > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > >
> > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > the dynacore
> > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > actually..just
> > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > listener not part
> > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > >
> > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly =
not
> > > personal
> > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to =
contribute
> > > anything..
> > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > learning) this
> > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > simple task
> > > you
> > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge =
of
> > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > >
> > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > on it can be
> > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > and the last
> > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > events don't
> > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > event related to
> > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > the onLoad()
> > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > understand it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev


_______________________________________________
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[P. <put...@ty...>]

I=B4m on the list as well, living in germany.
Had no time yet to contibute but hope to find the time in the future.
Still, it=B4s a bit hard to understand the code with this few comments.
On the other hand its a good exercise for training the programming muscle=
s ;-)
Have used the DynAPI to code a drag and drop interface for a
mySQL picture DB using the treenode stuff. works really great!

>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral [mailto:jmi...@or...]
> Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles 10 de enero de 2001 12:53
> Para: dyn...@li...
> Asunto: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal an=
d me
> ? I
> find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morni=
ng I
> find
> 40 mails waiting for me....
>
> Nevermind
>
> Raymond Smith wrote:
>
> > Yoda would look young
> >
> > I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are lettin=
g
> rust.
> > I didn't forget.
> >
> > Later, 4am here...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> > > so.. what's your age then :-)
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > http://www.oibv.com
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smi=
th
> > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > > debugger I am not, but
> > > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > > much time I
> > > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > > mere pup among
> > > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > > the tutorial is
> > > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > > find the time)
> > > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > > list can do..
> > > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer=
 and
> > > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > > on this list,
> > > > alot
> > > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contrib=
ute
> > > > anything
> > > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > > the dynacore
> > > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > > actually..just
> > > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > > listener not part
> > > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly=
 not
> > > > personal
> > > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribut=
e
> > > > anything..
> > > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > > learning) this
> > > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > > simple task
> > > > you
> > > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge =
of
> > > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > > >
> > > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > > >
> > > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > > on it can be
> > > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > > and the last
> > > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > > events don't
> > > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > > event related to
> > > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > > the onLoad()
> > > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > > understand it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I have not been able to use CVS since this morning. SSH was giving a warning
about some hacker doing a man-in-the-middle attack. This morning I spoke to
my admin and found out that he had changed the network's configuration so
now there's a Linux machine rounting all traffic. ( The man in-the-middle ).
sigh....

Ok, on to the point. As usual when I wait too much before updating my API's
version when I do I don't recognize the code. ( Even mine ). One good thing
about being a web developer is that I can spend the whole day debugging the
API and still I'm doing my job :)

I'm trying to fix the label and button widgets in the hope that this will
lead to fix many other bugs. Now, tracking down one of these pestering
event-not-happening bugs I've reached this place inside event.js

 if (is.ns4 && is.platform=="other" && type=="mouseup")
this.invokeEvent("click",e);

I'm reasonabily sure that this -is.platform- condition should not be there.
Coded that way, click events only fire when you're running a Linux/Unix
Netscape, don't they ? By removing the condition, the button widget worked
fine in NS( did you notice that clicking the text in the button was causing
the button to animate but the resizing did not happen ? ). IE, as Pascal
already stated, has another problem.

I don't want to directly update CVS with this change because I have a
terrible feeling that this code was placed there because some platform issue
and I may have broken something else. Would the person that coded that
condition please tell me if it is a mistake or not ?

Another issue. Same function, several lines before:

if (is.ns4 && is.platform=="other") {
  if (type=="mousedown") {
   if (this.dbltimer!=null) type="dblclick";
   else this.dbltimer=setTimeout(this+'.dbltimer=null',300);
  }
 }

Again it seems that Win NS won't fire any doubleclick events. Since this
code has been there since Dan's first DynAPI2 release and whenever I remove
it, it reappears again, my best guesses are:

- 1: The condition should be platform!='other'. I know that win NS handles
doubleclick events correctly ( I've tryed removing the condition and did
well ). Then maybe some Linux/Unix doesn't but the condition is miswritten.

- 2: There's something that I have missed and dblclick events under Windows
are handled in another way.

- 3: I'm dumb

I'll continue to investigate ( I will dedicate the rest of the day to debug
this release )  In the meantime it would be useful if you all posted all the
bugs you can think of so I don't forget something.


----


I like OOP as much as anyone and I do recognize the benefits of modularity,
classes, inheritance, etc, etc. However, we must keep in mind that sometimes
the ground we're steping is not solid enought to build a skyscraper on top
of it. I understand that programming Delphy and such is easier, and I do
understant that JAVA's object model is cool and scalable and you can reuse
code but, how many years did it took until technology was mature enought to
support things as abstract and platform-independant as JAVA ( I lived the
old ASM days, one mistake-one reboot, registers, pointers.... ) ? Concepts
such as code size still count. You may have a fast connection but still a
website 10k smaller is a better website.

Lots more will be said.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

Oops, I meant UNTIL this morning

Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> I have not been able to use CVS since this morning.

[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it [ prologue ]

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.

Ok. Facts

A) The precreation code looks nice.
B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
because:
C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
not prevent text from being selectable.
E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
lightning should fry me dead.
G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
time. That is good news.

.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it [ prologue ]

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

DynLayer.EventMethod:

....
 if (is.ie) {
  var e=dyndoc.elm.event;
  e.cancelBubble=true;
  if (e.type=="click" && DynAPI.wasDragging) {
   // e.cancelBubble=true;  this is already done two lines before
   DynAPI.wasDragging=false;
   return true;
  }
  if (e.type!="mouseout" && e.type!="mouseover") e.cancelBubble=true;
  if (e.type=="mouseout" && this.contains(e.toElement)) return true;
  if (e.type=="mouseover" && this.contains(e.fromElement)) return true;
 }
.....

too many 'e.cancelBubble= true'. Either some are redundant or some of them should
not be there. Moving on....


Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
>
> Ok. Facts
>
> A) The precreation code looks nice.
> B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> because:
> C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> not prevent text from being selectable.
> E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> lightning should fry me dead.
> G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> time. That is good news.
>
> .
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
to discuss a couple of things.

Cya


Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
>
> Ok. Facts
>
> A) The precreation code looks nice.
> B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> because:
> C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> not prevent text from being selectable.
> E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> lightning should fry me dead.
> G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> time. That is good news.
>
> .
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.


Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
> to discuss a couple of things.
>
> Cya
>
> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>
> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
> >
> > Ok. Facts
> >
> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> > because:
> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> > not prevent text from being selectable.
> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> > lightning should fry me dead.
> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> > time. That is good news.
> >
> > .
> >
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Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

Where have you found the problem?  From my testing, it seemed that
only the mousemove event was being fired by IE 5.5.

-- 
// Robert Rainwater

On 1/10/2001, 11:50:25 AM EST, Jordi wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it":

> I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
> spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.


> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

>> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
>> to discuss a couple of things.
>>
>> Cya
>>
>> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>>
>> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
>> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
>> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
>> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
>> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
>> >
>> > Ok. Facts
>> >
>> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
>> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
>> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
>> > because:
>> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
>> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
>> > not prevent text from being selectable.
>> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
>> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
>> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
>> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
>> > lightning should fry me dead.
>> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
>> > time. That is good news.
>> >
>> > .
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
>> > Dyn...@li...
>> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I'm currently analizing several blocks of code in events.js and dynlayer.js. I understand
what is happening but I'm still trying to see if
it is just a matter of one block or it involves more than one. Want to make sure first.


Robert Rainwater wrote:

> Where have you found the problem?  From my testing, it seemed that
> only the mousemove event was being fired by IE 5.5.
>
> --
> // Robert Rainwater
>
> On 1/10/2001, 11:50:25 AM EST, Jordi wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it":
>
> > I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
> > spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.
>
> > Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>
> >> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
> >> to discuss a couple of things.
> >>
> >> Cya
> >>
> >> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> >> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> >> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> >> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> >> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
> >> >
> >> > Ok. Facts
> >> >
> >> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
> >> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> >> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> >> > because:
> >> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> >> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> >> > not prevent text from being selectable.
> >> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> >> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> >> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> >> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> >> > lightning should fry me dead.
> >> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> >> > time. That is good news.
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I'm reasonabily sure I have events working in IE5.5. I think I screwed something with NS events
now but I just need to find the line I accidentally removed

Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> I'm currently analizing several blocks of code in events.js and dynlayer.js. I understand
> what is happening but I'm still trying to see if
> it is just a matter of one block or it involves more than one. Want to make sure first.
>
> Robert Rainwater wrote:
>
> > Where have you found the problem?  From my testing, it seemed that
> > only the mousemove event was being fired by IE 5.5.
> >
> > --
> > // Robert Rainwater
> >
> > On 1/10/2001, 11:50:25 AM EST, Jordi wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it":
> >
> > > I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
> > > spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.
> >
> > > Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
> >
> > >> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
> > >> to discuss a couple of things.
> > >>
> > >> Cya
> > >>
> > >> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> > >> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> > >> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> > >> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> > >> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
> > >> >
> > >> > Ok. Facts
> > >> >
> > >> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
> > >> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> > >> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> > >> > because:
> > >> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> > >> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> > >> > not prevent text from being selectable.
> > >> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> > >> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> > >> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> > >> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> > >> > lightning should fry me dead.
> > >> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> > >> > time. That is good news.
> > >> >
> > >> > .
> > >> >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
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[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it, on a " lower " plane...

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Ok, picking up on 'Ilmestro' here.  Just working on a slightly lower
intellectual plane.

I got the loadpanels (via labels) working inside of pushpanels, kinda
<mutter>.  Unfortunately... , Pushpanel isn't smart enough to resize itself
after content 'insertion'.  I tried setContent from viewport but that failed
miserably.  I came up with a work around (reset does work and I have to
oversize the Label to accomodate "expected" content)  Not pretty I know..
but it will have to work til I figure out what you guys already know.

DS

[Dynapi-Dev] Still talking to myself....

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Fatigue setting in, things are running smooth as I continue to debug the
"trivial".  Going let you European lads finish the balance of  "your day" in
peace.  I think a few hours of sleep to recharge the Brain Calories is in
order.  Tomorrow I have to tackle Pascal "my mother named me after a
computer language" Bestebroer's dynamic skinwindow and hopefully figure out
how to integrate a loadpanel into a window that doesn't really exist till
you give birth to it.... and then have 'it' (once born) actually perform a
call to load itself.

Later...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 1:45 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it, on a " lower " plane...


> Ok, picking up on 'Ilmestro' here.  Just working on a slightly lower
> intellectual plane.
>
> I got the loadpanels (via labels) working inside of pushpanels, kinda
> <mutter>.  Unfortunately... , Pushpanel isn't smart enough to resize
itself
> after content 'insertion'.  I tried setContent from viewport but that
failed
> miserably.  I came up with a work around (reset does work and I have to
> oversize the Label to accomodate "expected" content)  Not pretty I know..
> but it will have to work til I figure out what you guys already know.
>
> DS
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Still talking to myself....

[Michael P. <mp...@ph...>]

If someone is willing to give me some help with the JScript component, I've
found a way of retieving the content of a URL to then put it into a layer using
.setHTML().  It doesn't need any extensive code such as the LoadPanel and will
work with any standard layer.

BTW, the NS version that uses Java works fine.  It is only IE that won't allow
me to use Java objects in the actual code.  I need to find an object that works
with web files the way that the FileSystemObject works for local files.

Also, because I am using Java / ActiveX to download the files, there is no need
for queues or separate loading of files.

Raymond Smith wrote:

> Fatigue setting in, things are running smooth as I continue to debug the
> "trivial".  Going let you European lads finish the balance of  "your day" in
> peace.  I think a few hours of sleep to recharge the Brain Calories is in
> order.  Tomorrow I have to tackle Pascal "my mother named me after a
> computer language" Bestebroer's dynamic skinwindow and hopefully figure out
> how to integrate a loadpanel into a window that doesn't really exist till
> you give birth to it.... and then have 'it' (once born) actually perform a
> call to load itself.
>
> Later...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 1:45 AM
> Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it, on a " lower " plane...
>
> > Ok, picking up on 'Ilmestro' here.  Just working on a slightly lower
> > intellectual plane.
> >
> > I got the loadpanels (via labels) working inside of pushpanels, kinda
> > <mutter>.  Unfortunately... , Pushpanel isn't smart enough to resize
> itself
> > after content 'insertion'.  I tried setContent from viewport but that
> failed
> > miserably.  I came up with a work around (reset does work and I have to
> > oversize the Label to accomodate "expected" content)  Not pretty I know..
> > but it will have to work til I figure out what you guys already know.
> >
> > DS
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] CVS updated

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I have updated CVS with a new events.js that should fix IEs event problems. All the example files
worked fine. This is what happened ( at least this is something I found, maybe there are still
other issues ):

- All browser events in DynAPI are captured and passed to the same EventMethod. This eventMethod
identifyes the physical layer, cancels browser event, searches for the appropiate DynmLayer object
and invokes its event.

- In IE, in order to access the DynLayer object we use the lyrobj property of the DIV itself. This
property is set when creating a layer so from code executed within the DIV's scope we can still get
to our DynLayer obj. The problem with our contents was that when clicking on a text, most of the
times the srcElement of the event was not the DIV but a FONT, TD, TR, TABLE, UL,... element. That
element did not have a pointer to the dynlayer and thus the API could not route the event properly.

- This issue was partially solved for images by doing:

if (is.ie) for (i in dlyr.elm.all.tags("img")) dlyr.elm.all.tags("img")[i].lyrobj=dlyr;

So images had a pointer to the layer aswell. This we would have needed to do to all elements in our
content, somethig really painful. Instead, I added this line inside eventmethod.

 for(;is.ie && !realsrc.lyrobj && realsrc.parentElement &&
realsrc.parentElement!=realsrc;realsrc=realsrc.parentElement);

Which actually makes realsrc travel IE's object hierarchy until we find the lyrobj reference. By
doing so I fixed events in IE5 and 5.5. I'm not that sure everything is fine now, but it is an
improvement.

There are several lines in that method such as that

if (e.type=="mouseover" || e.type=="mouseout") return false;

just before the bubbleEvent() call that I don't understand but I prefer not to touch them.

By the way, it seems that when clicking on a selectable text, NS does not fire a click event.
Mousedown and mouseup are fired, but click isn't. We could fire it manually but then when clicking
outside a text we would get two onclicks.

Tell me if I broke something. Sure I did.

Cya