dynapi-dev

[Dynapi-Dev] SODA-RPC and php5

[<div...@ya...>]

Hi DynAPI developers!!! =)

Not so long ago I have found out abput the excistence of this project,
made sure that it is REALLY COOL and POWERFULL and decided to use it
in my development routine. I am a web(and also php) developer and got
very interested in development of such dynamic web applications using
php, dynapi and soda. I got the latest(??) release version 3.0.0 and
tried to apply soda-rpc examples to the latest version of php5.1.x.
And if i am right it turned out that it does not work with php 5?

So, i wanted to ask is there anibody in your team working on this
subject? And if there any way i could help u work in that direction?

Thank u!

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] SODA-RPC and php5

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

> From: "=D7=E5=F0=ED=E5=F6=EE=E2 =CC=E8=F5=E0=E8=EB" <div...@ya...=
>
> Sent: 2005 July 31 Sunday 09:34
>

> Hi DynAPI developers!!! =3D)
>


Hi and thank you for the interest in DynAPI!

> php, dynapi and soda. I got the latest(??) release version 3.0.0 and

The latest release is 3.0.0-beta1.  A 3.0.0-beta2 release is planned=20
sometime this week.  If you can wait, ok, but if not, just grab a CVS=20
copy.

> tried to apply soda-rpc examples to the latest version of php5.1.x.
> And if i am right it turned out that it does not work with php 5?

Last time I checked it didn't even work with PHP3 or PHP4.  It was=20
incomplete, and the coded parts were having issues with different=20
flavors/versions of PHP4.

> So, i wanted to ask is there anibody in your team working on this

Hmm, well, I was the one who started it.  I have plans to work on it,=20
but not the time to sit down and do it right now.

> subject? And if there any way i could help u work in that direction?

Well, if you can get it to work, then great.  Someone else contributed=20
some PHP4 code, but as an email attachment to me.  It's on a disc I=20
can't access right now.  :-\  One of the things I am working on is to=20
get the data off that disc.  If you make changes, make it work in both=20
PHP4 and PHP5, or just label it as .php5.  Submit it to the Patches=20
tracker, so there won't be loss or delays getting it in the future.

> Thank u!

Thank you!

Leif

[Dynapi-Dev] Does Dynapi support AJAX?

[<jy...@mo...>]

Itd be really nice if Dynapi did support AJAX and provided an interface to
some PHP library that generated Dynapi UI changes on the fly.

OK, for those not familiar with AJAX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX

And a PHP server side AJAX library that generates UI changes:
http://xajax.sourceforge.net/

You'll see that all the client UI changes are expressed in the server
code, which makes writing server applications (and client side UIs :) )
very simple.

Just an idea :)

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Does Dynapi support AJAX?

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

> From: <jy...@mo...>
> Sent: 2005 July 31 Sunday 13:44
>

> Itd be really nice if Dynapi did support AJAX and provided an 
> interface to

As I understand it, AJAX is a collection of techniques, not a 
specification or protocol.  So in that regard nothing can ever support 
AJAX until it is formally defined in a RFC or specification or 
something.  Then applications can all agree to do things "The AJAX Way". 
Right now it's a general concept of how to use a mixture of different 
web technologies.

> some PHP library that generated Dynapi UI changes on the fly.

There is the IOElement and SODA infrastructure.  These allow data to be 
exchanged asynchronously from the user interface.  What is done with 
that data (UI actions and whatnot) has been left as an exercise for the 
developer.

> OK, for those not familiar with AJAX: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX

I've been roughly familiar with the concept since about the year 2000. 
It has only recently gotten this AJAX name, earlier this year I think. 
It will probably be a matter of months before "standardizations" start 
to emerge.

> And a PHP server side AJAX library that generates UI changes:
> http://xajax.sourceforge.net/
>
> You'll see that all the client UI changes are expressed in the server
> code, which makes writing server applications (and client side UIs 
> :) )
> very simple.
>
> Just an idea :)

Ahh, cool.  See, that functionality didn't exist a few months ago unless 
you did it yourself.  It definitely needs to be examined how best to 
proceed.  It would be nice if we could drop-in some other project's 
implementation instead of duplicating work efforts.  It would be nice to 
improve upon what already exists.  If you have already examined both 
DynAPI's IOElement/SODA (in CVS) and xajax, and have a specific 
suggestion, please discuss here.  If you have a detailed outline of some 
ideas, submit a feature suggestion to the trackers, so we don't forget.

Leif