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[Dynapi-Dev] Just pondering

[Raymond S. <dst...@or...>]

Since I don't have a Macintosh I am still assuming that we have issues with
determining width and height of dynamic layers on the fly in IE5, on that
OS.

If it still exists, would precreate for IE help to solve that problem since
your determining layer sizing prior to setting it?

Ray

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] onmouseover problem

[Richard :o <ma...@ri...>]

In case this hasn't been answered yet, it's a bug in the API AFAIK, should
be fixed soon.
Cheers,
Richard  :o

ma...@ri...
www.richardinfo.com
(Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000 snapshot of DynAPI2)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bachis Bogdan-Adrian" <ba...@ya...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:00 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] onmouseover problem


>
>   Hello,
>
>   I'm new to DynAPI project and I have the following
> problem: I have a DynLayer object that is a child of
> another DynLayer object. I added the onmouseover event
> to the child DynLayer object, but when I moved the
> mouse over the layer, nothing happens. Here's the
> code:
>
> menuBar=new DynLayer(null, 10, 10, 210, 25, "red")
>
> menuOption1=new DynLayer(null, 10, 5, 40, 15, "white")
>
> menuOption1Listener=new EventListener(menuOption1)
>
> menuOption1Listener.onmouseover=function(e){
>   alert("test")
> }
>
> menuOption1.addEventListener(menuOption1Listener)
>
> menuBar.addChild(menuOption1)
> DynAPI.document.addChild(menuBar)
>
>   I've tried to add the onmouseup event instead of
> onmouseover and everything worked just fine...
>
> Can you please tell me what's wrong with it?
>
>          Thanks,
>
>               Bogdan.
>
> P.S. I'm using IE 5.5 and Windows NT 4.0 Workstation
>
>
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Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Richard :o <ma...@ri...>]

> correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would also need work to make
> them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not planning on for a
while.

So Doug, please send your fixes over to me as I would like to support these
great
widgets as long as possible, and the lack of draggability under IE5.5 was a
long overdue fix.

Regarding elastic, I apply this on my page by detecting browser dimensions
like this:

var winH,winW,w, h, ow, oh, q

function findWH() {
 winW = (is.ns)? window.innerWidth : document.body.offsetWidth-20
 winH = (is.ns)? window.innerHeight : document.body.offsetHeight-4
                             //I'm not sure what the -20 and -4  was needed
for now
   ow= 1004/winW;
   oh= 648/winH;
   if(ow>oh){q=ow;}else{q=oh;}
 return q
}

DynAPI.onLoad=function() {
    q=findWH()

and then all sizes defined are divided by q, like this:

statusMsg=new DynLayer(null,0,0,120/q,120/q);

When done like this it means objects retain their original shape; so if
someone's browser is letterbox
shaped, your page doesn't become squashed, but decreases in width as well.

in the resize event you could put:
q=findWH()    //gets new dimensions
statusMsg.slideTo(120/q,120/q);

I haven't done the resizing bit on my page right now, because I wanted to
animate the resizing
properly (ie the things fly to the new place, and grow/shrink). Also many
people resize the browser
while the page is loading, which could cause errors and crashes, so I only
let the onResize()
code execute (during testing) after a variable was set at the end of my
preloading sequence.
Of course NS can't animate anything onResize(), as it simply has to be
reloaded, at least I haven't
seen recreateAll() work properly without a reload.

The only problem I run into was text size, you can change the font size
using the same variable, ie:

statusMsg.setHTML('<span style="font-size: '+16/q+'pt;">Blah Blah</span>')

but during testing NS gave a lot of problems, looking on it now I think the
problem was that I had two stylesheets
applied to the same document, one directly and one through a skinButton
widget, but I'm not sure.

I hope there's something in there of use;

Cheers,
Richard  :o

ma...@ri...
www.richardinfo.com
(Everything running on, and ported to the 19/12/2000 snapshot of DynAPI2)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <pa...@dy...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool


> correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would also need work to make
> them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not planning on for a
while.
>
> cya,
>
> Pascal Bestebroer
> pa...@dy...
> http://www.dynamic-core.net
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Robert Rainwater
> > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 21:35
> > Aan: DynAPI Development List
> > Onderwerp: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I know none of those widgets are in CVS.  Aren't those
> > Pascal's widgets?
> >
> > --
> > // Robert Rainwater
> >
> > On 1/10/2001, 6:02:56 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev]
> > Making progress on a Java gui tool":
> >
> > > How do I get access to the CVS system..
> > > I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> > > Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> > > I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> > > Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> > > (re-position it and set it's width)
> > > and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> > > I am also working on an elatic object..
> > > What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your
> > page for any
> > > browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of
the
> > > browser..
> >
> >
> > > Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> > > Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> >
> >
> > >> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It
does
> > >> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
> > >> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while
other
> > >> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
> > > bugged
> > >> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
> > >>
> > >> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug
this
> > > stuff
> > >> I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get
the
> > >> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the
> > current CVS.
> > >> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus
> > allowing us to
> > >> further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
> > > "thing"
> > >> should be.
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base
> > code in the
> > > CVS
> > >> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with
> > precreate and
> > >> inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.
> >  It seems
> > > the
> > >> only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on
> > a limited
> > >> basis).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > >> Dyn...@li...
> > >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

Well.. since the current project relies on DynaPI 2 AND
the skinwindow, and SkinToolbar widgets..
I think I'll have to fix them myself..
It the snapshot creation still working?
If so, can you repost the URL?
And what do I do with the widgets after I have upgraded them?
Do I just send them to Pascal or what?

Thank You,
Doug Melvin
Integrated System Solutions: Design, Development, Implementation and Support
Creative-Workshop.com

> correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would also need work to make
> them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not planning on for a
while.
>
> cya,
>
> Pascal Bestebroer
> pa...@dy...
> http://www.dynamic-core.net
>
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Robert Rainwater
> > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 21:35
> > Aan: DynAPI Development List
> > Onderwerp: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> >
> >
> >
> > As far as I know none of those widgets are in CVS.  Aren't those
> > Pascal's widgets?
> >
> > --
> > // Robert Rainwater
> >
> > On 1/10/2001, 6:02:56 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev]
> > Making progress on a Java gui tool":
> >
> > > How do I get access to the CVS system..
> > > I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> > > Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> > > I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> > > Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> > > (re-position it and set it's width)
> > > and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> > > I am also working on an elatic object..
> > > What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your
> > page for any
> > > browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of
the
> > > browser..
> >
> >
> > > Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> > > Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
> >
> >
> > >> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It
does
> > >> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
> > >> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while
other
> > >> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
> > > bugged
> > >> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
> > >>
> > >> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug
this
> > > stuff
> > >> I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get
the
> > >> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the
> > current CVS.
> > >> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus
> > allowing us to
> > >> further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
> > > "thing"
> > >> should be.
> > >>
> > >> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base
> > code in the
> > > CVS
> > >> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with
> > precreate and
> > >> inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.
> >  It seems
> > > the
> > >> only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on
> > a limited
> > >> basis).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > >> Dyn...@li...
> > >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
> >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> >
>
>
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

For more info on CVS stuff, read the f.a.q.


Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Doug Melvin
> Verzonden: donderdag 11 januari 2001 0:03
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
> How do I get access to the CVS system..
> I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> (re-position it and set it's width)
> and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> I am also working on an elatic object..
> What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your page for any
> browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of the
> browser..
>
>
> Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
> > I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It does
> > appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
> > mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while other
> > pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
> bugged
> > version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
> >
> > While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug this
> stuff
> > I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get the
> > feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the current CVS.
> > Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus
> allowing us to
> > further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
> "thing"
> > should be.
> >
> > It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base code in the
> CVS
> > before we defocus the limited masses even more.
> >
> > Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with
> precreate and
> > inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.  It seems
> the
> > only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on a limited
> > basis).
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

RE: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Pascal B. <pa...@dy...>]

correct, the widgets are not in the CVS. They would also need work to make
them work in the latest DynAPI2.. something I'm not planning on for a while.

cya,

Pascal Bestebroer
pa...@dy...
http://www.dynamic-core.net

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Robert Rainwater
> Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 21:35
> Aan: DynAPI Development List
> Onderwerp: Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
>
> As far as I know none of those widgets are in CVS.  Aren't those
> Pascal's widgets?
>
> --
> // Robert Rainwater
>
> On 1/10/2001, 6:02:56 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev]
> Making progress on a Java gui tool":
>
> > How do I get access to the CVS system..
> > I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> > Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> > I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> > Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> > (re-position it and set it's width)
> > and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> > I am also working on an elatic object..
> > What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your
> page for any
> > browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of the
> > browser..
>
>
> > Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> > Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool
>
>
> >> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It does
> >> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
> >> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while other
> >> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
> > bugged
> >> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
> >>
> >> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug this
> > stuff
> >> I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get the
> >> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the
> current CVS.
> >> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus
> allowing us to
> >> further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
> > "thing"
> >> should be.
> >>
> >> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base
> code in the
> > CVS
> >> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
> >>
> >> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with
> precreate and
> >> inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.
>  It seems
> > the
> >> only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on
> a limited
> >> basis).
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> >> Dyn...@li...
> >> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

As far as I know none of those widgets are in CVS.  Aren't those
Pascal's widgets?

-- 
// Robert Rainwater

On 1/10/2001, 6:02:56 PM EST, Doug wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool":

> How do I get access to the CVS system..
> I've fixed a few bugs myself..
> Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
> I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
> Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
> (re-position it and set it's width)
> and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
> I am also working on an elatic object..
> What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your page for any
> browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of the
> browser..


> Assuming I do get access to CVS..
> Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool


>> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It does
>> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
>> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while other
>> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
> bugged
>> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
>>
>> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug this
> stuff
>> I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get the
>> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the current CVS.
>> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus allowing us to
>> further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
> "thing"
>> should be.
>>
>> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base code in the
> CVS
>> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
>>
>> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with precreate and
>> inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.  It seems
> the
>> only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on a limited
>> basis).
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
>> Dyn...@li...
>> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev


> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool

[Doug M. <do...@cr...>]

How do I get access to the CVS system..
I've fixed a few bugs myself..
Such as the 'movebility' of the skinwindow.
I also updated the doDock mothod of the skintoolbar.
Now calling doDock(0) will dock the toolbar at the top.
(re-position it and set it's width)
and passing a 1 instead will dock it at the bottom.
I am also working on an elatic object..
What this does is resizes and repositions the content on your page for any
browser size.. and automatically does so when you change the size of the
browser..


Assuming I do get access to CVS..
Is the bug list at sourceforge complete?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Smith" <dst...@or...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Making progress on a Java gui tool


> I was beginning to wonder where Dan went off to, now we know.  It does
> appear that we've created a bit of a two headed hydra here, as others
> mentioned might happen.  Dan's off working on a DynBuilder while other
> pontificate about the holy-grail of RAD tools to speed up "the still
bugged
> version of DynAPI2" that hasn't had a refresh since November of 2000.
>
> While I do my best to muddle thru this code and help Robert debug this
stuff
> I fear I submit about as much confusion as contribution.  But I get the
> feeling that others are not really 'actively debugging' the current CVS.
> Dan's working on a GUI which he will 'share' with us, thus allowing us to
> further defocus our efforts while other do grand debate on what this
"thing"
> should be.
>
> It would be nice to, at a minimum, clean up the current base code in the
CVS
> before we defocus the limited masses even more.
>
> Sorry for the rant.  But ALOT of change was introduced with precreate and
> inline creation integration that still needs to be cleaned up.  It seems
the
> only really active debugger right now is Robert and Pascal (on a limited
> basis).
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev

[Dynapi-Dev] [Bug #128316] Changing the image on a Button does not work

[<no...@so...>]

Bug #128316, was updated on 2001-Jan-10 11:02
Here is a current snapshot of the bug.

Project: DynAPI 2
Category: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Bug Group: None
Priority: 5
Submitted by: nobody
Assigned to : nobody
Summary: Changing the image on a Button does not work

Details: I found that dynamically changing the image associated with a
Button (dynapi.gui.button.js) after the button has been created does not
work.

I think the problem is in Button.prototype.setImage. The last line is

else this.imglyr.doc.images[0].src - this.img.src;

I think this should be changed to

else this.imglyr.setImage(this.img);

That is, pass the job of changing the image on to the DynImage object.

For detailed info, follow this link:
http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=128316&group_id=5757

[Dynapi-Dev] Content Size in NS6 Revisited

[Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...>]

FWIW I have some information on getting content size in NS6.  It's not a
total solution, though.

In both NS6 and IE5/5.5, you can do this:

w = layer.offsetWidth
h = layer.offsetHeight

These are not part of W3C's CSS spec, and they're not in the .style
property of the element.

layer.offsetHeight is pretty accurate for getting the height of a layer
you haven't explicitly set a height value for.  However, offsetWidth
always ends up giving you the width of the parent element, because
relatively positioned DIVs tend to stretch width-wise, filling the area
of their parent.  So there is no "offset" difference.

For example, I ran a test:

<div id="myDiv">Hello</div>

The values come out to be:

offsetWidth = 1162
offsetHeight = 19

offsetHeight is correct, but offsetWidth is the width of the document
(my browser window), which is the <DIV>'s parent.

Hope that helps somebody.

scottandrew

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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I'm currently analizing several blocks of code in events.js and dynlayer.js. I understand
what is happening but I'm still trying to see if
it is just a matter of one block or it involves more than one. Want to make sure first.


Robert Rainwater wrote:

> Where have you found the problem?  From my testing, it seemed that
> only the mousemove event was being fired by IE 5.5.
>
> --
> // Robert Rainwater
>
> On 1/10/2001, 11:50:25 AM EST, Jordi wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it":
>
> > I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
> > spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.
>
> > Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>
> >> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
> >> to discuss a couple of things.
> >>
> >> Cya
> >>
> >> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> >> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> >> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> >> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> >> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
> >> >
> >> > Ok. Facts
> >> >
> >> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
> >> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> >> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> >> > because:
> >> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> >> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> >> > not prevent text from being selectable.
> >> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> >> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> >> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> >> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> >> > lightning should fry me dead.
> >> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> >> > time. That is good news.
> >> >
> >> > .
> >> >
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] W3C DOCTYPE interferes with DynAPI

[Simon D. M. <di...@bi...>]

> Same thing happens on IE5 Mac, but you get vague error messages (ie. error
> on line 600, but your document only has 400 lines). No doctype, and
> everything works fine.

Does IE5 Mac work if you leave out the url?

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

SD

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Dann
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:36 PM
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] W3C DOCTYPE interferes with DynAPI
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just spent a boring two hours debugging DynAPI code on NS6, only to
> > discover that nothing was wrong with the code. Instead, NS6's
> > interpretation of the DOCTYPE at the beginning of the HTML file :
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
> > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
> >
> > caused DynAPI to stop functioning without errors.
> >
> > If I remove it, it works as with all the other browsers. The file can be
> > perfectly validated as a HTML 4.01 document, for which the DOCTYPE tag
> > is imperative.
> >
> > Does NE1 have any idea why this happens on NS6 ?
> >
> > CU,
> >  Dann
> >
>
>
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Re[2]: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Robert R. <rra...@ya...>]

Where have you found the problem?  From my testing, it seemed that
only the mousemove event was being fired by IE 5.5.

-- 
// Robert Rainwater

On 1/10/2001, 11:50:25 AM EST, Jordi wrote about "[Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it":

> I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
> spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.


> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

>> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
>> to discuss a couple of things.
>>
>> Cya
>>
>> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>>
>> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
>> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
>> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
>> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
>> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
>> >
>> > Ok. Facts
>> >
>> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
>> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
>> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
>> > because:
>> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
>> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
>> > not prevent text from being selectable.
>> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
>> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
>> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
>> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
>> > lightning should fry me dead.
>> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
>> > time. That is good news.
>> >
>> > .
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > Dyn...@li...
>> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Getting into it

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

I have found the problem with IE's events. This doesn't mean I know how to solve it but
spotting the enemy is the first step in any battle.


Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> Please whoever wrote the DynLayer.EventMethod currently in CVS contact me. I'd like
> to discuss a couple of things.
>
> Cya
>
> Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:
>
> > Ok, I've eaten and procesed all the new code in the API. I'm starting this new
> > thread where I will reply myself and share my progress ( if any ). Good news is
> > that my SMI (see my website for details) is finally finished, but I want to make
> > sure it works with this precreation code ( which will hopefully decrease the
> > time needed to initialize a big menulist ), before I release it.
> >
> > Ok. Facts
> >
> > A) The precreation code looks nice.
> > B) The current cvs release doesn't have a buttonimage example. Instead, there's
> > a button widget and the corresponding example. It doesn't work but that is
> > because:
> > C) The label widget doesn't work properly in IE, wich brings us to point:
> > D) The label widget no longer uses a cover layer and cancelBrowserEvent() does
> > not prevent text from being selectable.
> > E) I'm not event using IE5.5 but 4.0 and 5.0
> > F) Events in child layers in IE5 seem to get lost in the way and never reach the
> > API. I still don't know under which circunstances a IE child layer decides that
> > I am an evil person and therefore my code must not be executed and if possible a
> > lightning should fry me dead.
> > G) I've been testing and reloading and reloading and NS didn't crash one single
> > time. That is good news.
> >
> > .
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] IE debugging environment

[<cam...@ya...>]

You could try the MS script debugger for IE.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/

--- Al Byers <by...@lo...> wrote: > I have
always used NS and its debugger to develop. I
> have only had
> limited luck debugging with IE. Is there a good
> setup for debugging in
> IE?
> 
> --
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> 826 N. Augusta St.
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> 540.213.0500
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] slide extension

[<rua...@ee...>]

You're right about that (line 177-179 of DynLayer.js), it creates a
reference to the object as a string. I hadn't seen that, very smart =
idea.
Thanks

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Pascal [mailto:pb...@oi...]
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles 10 de enero de 2001 14:45
Para: dyn...@li...
Asunto: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] slide extension


normally (if I'm not mistaking) Javascript will call the  toString() of =
an
object in this case of the setInterval(). The DynLayer object contains =
this
method toString() which sort of identifies the object itself to =
Javascript..
that's why it works correctly.

I think.. :)

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> rua...@ee...
> Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 14:23
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Dev] slide extension
>
>
> I've been looking at one bit that has me baffled. I've been
> having a look at
> the slide() method for the DynLayer and what I can't figure
> out is how the
> following line works.
>
> this.slideInterval =3D setInterval(this+".slide()",speed)  // line 34 =
in
> slide.js
>
> To learn how the DynAPI works I've been trying to see if I
> could recreate
> it. So I have a layer obect that is very much like the
> DynLayer object (only
> has the css properties, none of the parent-child interface).
> Whenever I try
> to set the interval to start the slide I get an error message
> because the
> <code>this</code> is evaluated and turned into a string and I get the
> following error:
> IE: object is not defined (ie turns the reference to the object into
> '[object]' )
> NS: missing ] after element list. (ns: '[object Object]')
>
> Any ideas,
> Ruairi
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[<hv...@ya...>]

Henrik from Sweden also with you, but I'm working nightshift and has a =
broadband connection at home, so you could get a post from me any hour =
of the day (and night). I'm keeping a low profile on this list for now =
though - monitoring and developing in the small...

Henrik V=E5glin  [ hv...@ya... ]

----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Nuno Ferreira" <nun...@wi...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


> Hi Raymond,
>=20
> I'm in Portugal, and i'm more or less on GMT time... :)
>=20
> best,
>=20
> NunoF
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Jordi
> 'IlMaestro' Ministral
> Sent: quarta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2001 11:53
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>=20
>=20
> Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal =
and me
> ? I
> find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each =
morning I
> find
> 40 mails waiting for me....
>=20
> Nevermind
>=20
> Raymond Smith wrote:
>=20
> > Yoda would look young
> >
> > I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are =
letting
> rust.
> > I didn't forget.
> >
> > Later, 4am here...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> > > so.. what's your age then :-)
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > http://www.oibv.com
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond =
Smith
> > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > > debugger I am not, but
> > > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > > much time I
> > > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > > mere pup among
> > > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > > the tutorial is
> > > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > > find the time)
> > > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > > list can do..
> > > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the =
DynLayer and
> > > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > > on this list,
> > > > alot
> > > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not =
much
> > > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to =
contribute
> > > > anything
> > > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > > the dynacore
> > > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > > actually..just
> > > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > > listener not part
> > > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything =
(definetly not
> > > > personal
> > > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to =
contribute
> > > > anything..
> > > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > > learning) this
> > > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > > simple task
> > > > you
> > > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge =
of
> > > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > > >
> > > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > > >
> > > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > > on it can be
> > > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > > and the last
> > > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > > events don't
> > > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > > event related to
> > > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > > the onLoad()
> > > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > > understand it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] slide extension

[Pascal <pb...@oi...>]

normally (if I'm not mistaking) Javascript will call the  toString() of an
object in this case of the setInterval(). The DynLayer object contains this
method toString() which sort of identifies the object itself to Javascript..
that's why it works correctly.

I think.. :)

Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
Software ontwikkelaar
Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
http://www.oibv.com

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> rua...@ee...
> Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 14:23
> Aan: dyn...@li...
> Onderwerp: [Dynapi-Dev] slide extension
>
>
> I've been looking at one bit that has me baffled. I've been
> having a look at
> the slide() method for the DynLayer and what I can't figure
> out is how the
> following line works.
>
> this.slideInterval = setInterval(this+".slide()",speed)  // line 34 in
> slide.js
>
> To learn how the DynAPI works I've been trying to see if I
> could recreate
> it. So I have a layer obect that is very much like the
> DynLayer object (only
> has the css properties, none of the parent-child interface).
> Whenever I try
> to set the interval to start the slide I get an error message
> because the
> <code>this</code> is evaluated and turned into a string and I get the
> following error:
> IE: object is not defined (ie turns the reference to the object into
> '[object]' )
> NS: missing ] after element list. (ns: '[object Object]')
>
> Any ideas,
> Ruairi
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> Dyn...@li...
> http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Nuno F. <nun...@wi...>]

Hi Raymond,

I'm in Portugal, and i'm more or less on GMT time... :)

best,

NunoF



-----Original Message-----
From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...]On Behalf Of Jordi
'IlMaestro' Ministral
Sent: quarta-feira, 10 de Janeiro de 2001 11:53
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining


Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal and me
? I
find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morning I
find
40 mails waiting for me....

Nevermind

Raymond Smith wrote:

> Yoda would look young
>
> I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are letting
rust.
> I didn't forget.
>
> Later, 4am here...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> To: <dyn...@li...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> > so.. what's your age then :-)
> >
> > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > Software ontwikkelaar
> > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > http://www.oibv.com
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smith
> > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > debugger I am not, but
> > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > much time I
> > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > >
> > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > contribution.
> > >
> > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > mere pup among
> > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > the tutorial is
> > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > find the time)
> > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > list can do..
> > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer and
> > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > >
> > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > on this list,
> > > alot
> > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
> > > anything
> > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > >
> > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > the dynacore
> > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > actually..just
> > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > listener not part
> > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > >
> > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly not
> > > personal
> > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribute
> > > anything..
> > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > learning) this
> > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > simple task
> > > you
> > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge of
> > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > >
> > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > >
> > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > >
> > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > on it can be
> > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > and the last
> > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > >
> > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > events don't
> > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > event related to
> > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > the onLoad()
> > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > understand it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
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> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[P. <put...@ty...>]

I=B4m on the list as well, living in germany.
Had no time yet to contibute but hope to find the time in the future.
Still, it=B4s a bit hard to understand the code with this few comments.
On the other hand its a good exercise for training the programming muscle=
s ;-)
Have used the DynAPI to code a drag and drop interface for a
mySQL picture DB using the treenode stuff. works really great!

>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral [mailto:jmi...@or...]
> Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles 10 de enero de 2001 12:53
> Para: dyn...@li...
> Asunto: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
>
> Is there any other European guy/girl in this list appart from Pascal an=
d me
> ? I
> find it hard to keep a conversation when I'm awaken and then each morni=
ng I
> find
> 40 mails waiting for me....
>
> Nevermind
>
> Raymond Smith wrote:
>
> > Yoda would look young
> >
> > I still owe you a set of skins for that skinwidget set you are lettin=
g
> rust.
> > I didn't forget.
> >
> > Later, 4am here...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:32 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> >
> > > so.. what's your age then :-)
> > >
> > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > http://www.oibv.com
> > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens Raymond Smi=
th
> > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 12:22
> > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I contribute to the level of my abilty.  And a master
> > > > debugger I am not, but
> > > > I have found a 'few' trivial ones.  If I got credit for
> > > > bloodshot eyes and
> > > > pist off girl friends you might actually get a sense of how
> > > > much time I
> > > > spend trying to make a contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I think I tend to frustrate poor Robert as much as make a valid
> > > > contribution.
> > > >
> > > > I never coded a stitch in my life, til 3 months ago.  I am a
> > > > mere pup among
> > > > men (yet I'm probably older then most of you, don't ask).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pascal" <pb...@oi...>
> > > > To: <dyn...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:12 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree on the tutors and reference not being uptodate..
> > > > the tutorial is
> > > > > something I can easily fix (and might do this weekend, if I
> > > > find the time)
> > > > > but the dev-reference is something almost everyone on this
> > > > list can do..
> > > > > just take out that which is Dynacore specific (i.e.: not
> > > > found in DynAPI)
> > > > > and  copy and paste all that is under DynObject to the DynLayer=
 and
> > > > > DynDocument objects.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people
> > > > on this list,
> > > > alot
> > > > > of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
> > > > > documentation being available, and those people fail to contrib=
ute
> > > > anything
> > > > > as simple as copy-and-pasting text.
> > > > >
> > > > > anyway, for a few widget examples look at the widgets with
> > > > the dynacore
> > > > > release, they use the precreate event (very basic stuff
> > > > actually..just
> > > > > replace the old oncreate  with onprecreate, and make the
> > > > listener not part
> > > > > of the prototype but part of the constructor)
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't take this mail as an attack or anything (definetly=
 not
> > > > personal
> > > > > to you Raymond), but everyone, please don't be shy to contribut=
e
> > > > anything..
> > > > > it's opensource, and we all had to learn (and are still
> > > > learning) this
> > > > > "thing" at one point.  Stuff like widget creation is such a
> > > > simple task
> > > > you
> > > > > only need the idea (see any GUI for ideas) and basic knowledge =
of
> > > > > DynAPI/javascript (see tutorials).
> > > > >
> > > > > cya (and have fun :),
> > > > >
> > > > > Pascal Bestebroer (pb...@oi...)
> > > > > Software ontwikkelaar
> > > > > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v.
> > > > > http://www.oibv.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > Van: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > [mailto:dyn...@li...]Namens
> > > > Raymond Smith
> > > > > > Verzonden: woensdag 10 januari 2001 11:18
> > > > > > Aan: dyn...@li...
> > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, there are not alot of good representations of
> > > > > > precreate in the
> > > > > > widgets.  The ButtonImage doesn't use it and doesn't work
> > > > in IE or NS.
> > > > > > Others say they will be updated.  The only technical writing
> > > > > > on it can be
> > > > > > found in your docs and build for Dynacore or one prior post
> > > > > > from Dan on
> > > > > > 'lots of changes'.  All the docs here date back to November
> > > > > > and the last
> > > > > > time you updated them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The viewport is a child layer, maybe that explains why the
> > > > > > events don't
> > > > > > fire.  Yet the images in the widget themselves change.  The
> > > > > > event related to
> > > > > > the viewport isn't even part of a widget, but defined in
> > > > the onLoad()
> > > > > > section of the webpage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eventually enough will leach out (or in) that I will
> > > > understand it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > > Dyn...@li...
> > > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Dynapi-Dev mailing list
> > > Dyn...@li...
> > > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Dyn...@li...
> > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/dynapi-dev
>
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>
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Nuno F. <nun...@wi...>]

	>I just feel its a sad thing that there are so many people on this list,
alot
	>of which are "complaining" about bugs not being fixed, not much
	>documentation being available, and those people fail to contribute
anything
	>as simple as copy-and-pasting text.

You're right of course. Even though the "devref" is very very good I feel
it's
a bit overcomplicated to someone not used to the DynAPI. I started to
compile
a list of methods (properties will come later :)) by class (file), to
publish
to this list, so you guys can correct or add to it if I forgot something or
made some mistake. The main goal of this list is not provide info for you
guru's
out there (you already breathe the stuff!) but a small handy reference
to people with less experience in Javascript and DynAPI.

It's a small effort but it's a start, and like you said it's no good if we
only
whine and do nothing about it.

Keep it up!

NunoF

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] IE debugging environment

[Anthony H. <ah...@ma...>]

Finally I can contibute something to this list!

There are two options.
The first is pretty expensive, difficult to set up, and VERY effective.
Visual InterDev provides an environment for server-side and client-side
debugging.  I use it for debugging at work, although I use Textpad for
scripting.

The second is somewhat less... ROBUST, fairly easy to set up, and FREE.
Microsoft Debugger is a free download that also supports both client-side
and server-side debugging, although the functionality is far more limited.
Check it out at http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/ under Scipt Debugger in
the left hand menu.  There is a lot of good (MS-specific) scripting info at
that site also...


HTH-
Anthony Homer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Al Byers" <by...@lo...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:18 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] IE debugging environment


> I have always used NS and its debugger to develop. I have only had
> limited luck debugging with IE. Is there a good setup for debugging in
> IE?
>
> --
> Al Byers
> Local Square, Inc.
> 826 N. Augusta St.
> Staunton, VA 24401
> 540.213.0500
> www.localsquare.com
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>
>
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[Dynapi-Dev] slide extension

[<rua...@ee...>]

I've been looking at one bit that has me baffled. I've been having a look at
the slide() method for the DynLayer and what I can't figure out is how the
following line works. 

this.slideInterval = setInterval(this+".slide()",speed)  // line 34 in
slide.js

To learn how the DynAPI works I've been trying to see if I could recreate
it. So I have a layer obect that is very much like the DynLayer object (only
has the css properties, none of the parent-child interface). Whenever I try
to set the interval to start the slide I get an error message because the
<code>this</code> is evaluated and turned into a string and I get the
following error:
IE: object is not defined (ie turns the reference to the object into
'[object]' )
NS: missing ] after element list. (ns: '[object Object]')

Any ideas, 
Ruairi

[Dynapi-Dev] IE debugging environment

[Al B. <by...@lo...>]

I have always used NS and its debugger to develop. I have only had
limited luck debugging with IE. Is there a good setup for debugging in
IE?

--
Al Byers
Local Square, Inc.
826 N. Augusta St.
Staunton, VA 24401
540.213.0500
www.localsquare.com
by...@lo...

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Issues, remaining

[Jordi 'I. M. <jmi...@or...>]

Again one must eat its own words: of course the click event is called correctly
because it is a native browser event. That code was meant for some platforms
where the mouseup was not followed by a onclick.

I don't like being wrong. :(


Jordi 'IlMaestro' Ministral wrote:

> I'm trying to fix the label and button widgets in the hope that this will
> lead to fix many other bugs. Now, tracking down one of these pestering
> event-not-happening bugs I've reached this place inside event.js
>
>  if (is.ns4 && is.platform=="other" && type=="mouseup")
> this.invokeEvent("click",e);
>
> I'm reasonabily sure that this -is.platform- condition should not be there.
> Coded that way, click events only fire when you're running a Linux/Unix
> Netscape, don't they ? By removing the condition, the button widget worked
> fine in NS( did you notice that clicking the text in the button was causing
> the button to animate but the resizing did not happen ? ). IE, as Pascal
> already stated, has another problem.
>