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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] LayoutManager

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi Jacob

In what way do you mean react? If you mean that all layers should move,
thats already included into the groupmanager. How do you mean "and when
they are hidden, the Z-order changes" If they are hidden they should be
overseen i think, and when they are made visible again, then they should
invoke a redraw of the layer positions.

Regards
Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Jacob Levy
Sent: den 22 september 2003 16:48
To: dyn...@li...
Cc: de...@ti...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] LayoutManager


Well, the next thing you'll want would be to react to when one of the
layers moves, you want to move the other ones in concert, and when they
are hidden, the Z-order changes, and so on. Sounds like a window manager
to me, before too long :)

--JYL

> Hi!
>
> I had a big problem and that was i had 3 layers that i needed to have 
> exacly 10 pixels vertical from eachother. The problem was not to place

> them but to keep the distance when they resized. I have now made a 
> function for that, that triggers on "onresize" but its just for the 
> vertical bit.
>
> I will however make one for horizontal resize and both vertical and 
> horizontal aswell, and now i wonder if there is something else that 
> needs to be added to this manager, so if you have any idees please 
> send them to me.
>
> Regards
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Re: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?

[Kevin <ke...@ke...>]

"Leif W" <war...@us...> wrote:

> I'm wondering if it'd make sense to have something like a getParent(N) where
> N is optional, and if specified, refers to the number of parents above the
> current layer.  I'm looking through the code for some way to identify if
> it's a dynlayer or just a window object.  I don't know offhand but I have a
> hunch.  I just can't seem to find the right bit of code to do it yet.
> 
> Leif

You could use the utility method getClassName. ie.
 
if (lyr.getClassName()=='DynLayer')

-
Kevin

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Brian Hayes
> To: dyn...@li...
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?
> 
> 
> O.k I just did a little test, and the below code only seems to work if you
> put a layer inside a layer, but if your layer is larger than your page (not
> in side a layer, but simply on added to the page) it doen't work.. So, how
> can you tell if your parent layer is the window or a DynLayer? Or again, i'm
> sure its the below code..or, possibly not being able to detect a window size
> change??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Brian Hayes
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?
> 
> Dear developer's,
> 
>             I wanted to share a code change that I made today with version
> 3, as it relates to the setDragBoundary function is DragEvents. I noticed
> that when you enable boundaries and you have this within a containing object
> that was smaller than the one with limits you would get very choppy
> behavior. I worked around this by using the eventlistener "ondragmove" and
> "ondragstop", by setting my location based on the area of my container..
> Then it hit me, while working on the dynapi.function.getimage and some guys
> from work whom specialize in oop style programing.. add the code to the core
> dragevent.js file (line 113), and not longer worry about it.. So here it is,
> and please let me know what  could do better (if any, as math is hard for me
> to visualize)..
> 
> Origianal Code..
>                                                 //if (x<l) x = l;
>                                                 //else if
> (x>lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
>                                                 //if (y<t) y = t;
>                                                 //else if
> (y>lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b) y = lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b;
> 
> New Code..
>                                                 if(lyr.parent.w>lyr.w){ //
> We are in a container larger than we are, so use the orignal code..
>                                                             if (x<l) x = l;
>                                                             else if
> (x>lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
>                                                             if (y<t) y = t;
>                                                             else if
> (y>lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b) y = lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b;
>                                                 } else
> if(lyr.parent.w<lyr.w){ //opps we are larger than our container, so make us
> smother to our areas..
>                                                             if ( (x*-1) < l)
> x = l;
>                                                             else if (
> ((x*-1) +lyr.parent.w-r) >= lyr.w) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
>                                                             if ( (y*-1) < t)
> y = t;
>                                                             else if (
> ((y*-1) +lyr.parent.h-b) >= lyr.h) y = lyr.parent.w-lyr.h-b;
>                                                 }
> 
> The above allows the borders to flow very smooth.. Please let me know what
> you think, and if you have a cleaner way of writing the above..
> 
> Example:
> 
> var container = new DynLayer(null,0,0,200,200,"e0e0e0");
> var insideObj = new DynLayer("Inside",0,0,400,400, "blue"); larger than our
> container...
> container.addChild(insideObj);
> dynapi.document.addChild(container);
> dynapi.document.insertAllChildren();
> 
> Thanks... Brian Hayes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Dynapi-Dev] Re: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

I'm wondering if it'd make sense to have something like a getParent(N) where
N is optional, and if specified, refers to the number of parents above the
current layer.  I'm looking through the code for some way to identify if
it's a dynlayer or just a window object.  I don't know offhand but I have a
hunch.  I just can't seem to find the right bit of code to do it yet.

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brian Hayes
To: dyn...@li...
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?


O.k I just did a little test, and the below code only seems to work if you
put a layer inside a layer, but if your layer is larger than your page (not
in side a layer, but simply on added to the page) it doen't work.. So, how
can you tell if your parent layer is the window or a DynLayer? Or again, i'm
sure its the below code..or, possibly not being able to detect a window size
change??




From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Brian Hayes
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 10:50 AM
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: [Dynapi-Help] Where does this need to be poted?

Dear developer's,

            I wanted to share a code change that I made today with version
3, as it relates to the setDragBoundary function is DragEvents. I noticed
that when you enable boundaries and you have this within a containing object
that was smaller than the one with limits you would get very choppy
behavior. I worked around this by using the eventlistener "ondragmove" and
"ondragstop", by setting my location based on the area of my container..
Then it hit me, while working on the dynapi.function.getimage and some guys
from work whom specialize in oop style programing.. add the code to the core
dragevent.js file (line 113), and not longer worry about it.. So here it is,
and please let me know what  could do better (if any, as math is hard for me
to visualize)..

Origianal Code..
                                                //if (x<l) x = l;
                                                //else if
(x>lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
                                                //if (y<t) y = t;
                                                //else if
(y>lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b) y = lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b;

New Code..
                                                if(lyr.parent.w>lyr.w){ //
We are in a container larger than we are, so use the orignal code..
                                                            if (x<l) x = l;
                                                            else if
(x>lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
                                                            if (y<t) y = t;
                                                            else if
(y>lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b) y = lyr.parent.h-lyr.h-b;
                                                } else
if(lyr.parent.w<lyr.w){ //opps we are larger than our container, so make us
smother to our areas..
                                                            if ( (x*-1) < l)
x = l;
                                                            else if (
((x*-1) +lyr.parent.w-r) >= lyr.w) x = lyr.parent.w-lyr.w-r;
                                                            if ( (y*-1) < t)
y = t;
                                                            else if (
((y*-1) +lyr.parent.h-b) >= lyr.h) y = lyr.parent.w-lyr.h-b;
                                                }

The above allows the borders to flow very smooth.. Please let me know what
you think, and if you have a cleaner way of writing the above..

Example:

var container = new DynLayer(null,0,0,200,200,"e0e0e0");
var insideObj = new DynLayer("Inside",0,0,400,400, "blue"); larger than our
container...
container.addChild(insideObj);
dynapi.document.addChild(container);
dynapi.document.insertAllChildren();

Thanks... Brian Hayes.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Download the lastest snapshot and look inside the
docs/docs/ folder for tiptricks.html

--
Raymond Irving

--- Stephen Carroll <sca...@vi...> wrote:
> Where is the "Tips and Tricks" section, can you
> provide the URL please?
> 
> > 
> > You're correct Daniel.
> > 
> > I've converted the "how to create a widget" from
> the
> > dynapi set
> http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/ to
> > DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.
> > 
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Stephen C. <sca...@vi...>]

Where is the "Tips and Tricks" section, can you provide the URL please?

> 
> You're correct Daniel.
> 
> I've converted the "how to create a widget" from the
> dynapi set http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/ to
> DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.
> 

> 
> 

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

From my basic understanding of widgets created in
DynAPI 2.5x I've concluded that the structure used
seems quite ok for normal widgets:

function widgetname(agruments){
	this.DynLayer = DynLayer;
	this.DynLayer(agruments);
	//
}
var p = dynapi.setPrototype('widgetname','DynLayer');


But now that we want to be able to support themes &
skins I would like to suggest that the structure be
upgraded to allow us to add/modify special features
without creating a completely new object:


function widgetname(agruments){
	this.DynLayer = DynLayer;
	this.DynLayer(agruments);
	
	this.construct(); // create widget components
}
var p = dynapi.setPrototype('widgetname','DynLayer');
p.construct = function(){
	// setup addtional object here
};
p.render = function(evnt){
	// render or draw the ui here
};


We could also create a base object call "Widget" for
use when creating widgets

function Widget(html,x,y,w,h,color){
	this.DynLayer = DynLayer;
	this.DynLayer(agruments);

	// construct widget components
	this.construct();

	// render the ui before it's created
	this.OnPreCreate(this.render);
	// or we could hook the the render() function 
	// into DynLayer to avoid OnPreCreate overhead?
};
var p = dynapi.setPrototype('Widget','DynLayer');
// Design Properties
p.backColor = 'silver';
// Methods
p.construct = function(){
	// setup addtional object here
};
p.render = function(evnt){
	// render or draw the ui here
};
p.WidgetSetSize = DynLayer.prototype.setSize;
p.setSize = function(x,y){
	this.WidgetSetSize(x,y);
	this.render('resize');
}


To simply create a Button widget we could then do the
following:


function Button(caption,x,y,w,h){
	this.Widget = Widget;
	this.Widget(null,x,y,w,h);
	
	this.caption = caption||'';
}
var p = dynapi.setPrototype('Button','Widget');
p.construct = function(){
	this.setTextSelectable(false);
	this.enableBlackboard();
	
	this.addchild(new DynLayer(),'lyrCover');

this.lyrCover.setAnchor({left:0,top:0,stretchH:'*',stretchV:'*'});
};
p.render = function(evnt){
	if(evnt && !this._created) return null;
	if(!evnt||evnt=='caption')
this.setHTML(this.caption);
	if(!evnt||evnt=='resize'){
		// do something here
	}
	if(!evnt) {
		this.setBgColor(this.backColor);
	}
};
p.setCaption = function(t){
	this.caption = c||'';
	this.render('caption');
};

What do you think about this model?


--
Raymond Irving

--- Raymond Irving <xw...@ya...> wrote:
> 
> See docs/docs/quickref.stylemanager.html
> 
> We could also look into stylemanager's approach as a
> standard or come up with another.
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > Hi Raymond!
> > 
> > I think this looks good, but i still dont
> understand
> > how the
> > stylemanager works really... It might help me
> > understand the
> > themes/styles a bit better, and the posibility to
> > have a oppinion :)
> > 
> > Is there some documentation how it works, i havent
> > found any but maybee
> > i havent been looking that hard? Or maybee some
> step
> > by step example?
> > 
> > Regards
> > Daniel
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dyn...@li...
> > [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> > Behalf Of Raymond
> > Irving
> > Sent: den 22 september 2003 01:56
> > To: dyn...@li...
> > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You're correct Daniel.
> > 
> > I've converted the "how to create a widget" from
> the
> > dynapi set
> http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/
> > to
> > DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.
> > 
> > I think we need a Standard Widget Model that
> > supports
> > the following:
> > 
> > 1) Inheritance
> > 2) Themes/Skins
> > 
> > Is it possible for all the developers to come
> > together
> > and let's come up with a design model that can
> > support
> > the above features and others if needed?
> > 
> > What ideas do you have in mind?
> > 
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> > 
> > 
> > --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > If someone that have good insight into the
> widget
> > > creation and how they
> > > should be build please write a documentation or
> a
> > > step by step
> > > instruction on how we should continue to build
> the
> > > widgets?
> > > 
> > > I think this is quite important as I think most
> of
> > > us are atleast
> > > thinking on making a own widget to deliver to
> the
> > > DYNapi project. So its
> > > best for us all if the widget are build in some
> > > specialway we all
> > > follows.
> > > 
> > > Best Regards
> > > Daniel
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] LayoutManager

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

Well, the next thing you'll want would be to react to when one of the
layers moves, you want to move the other ones in concert, and when they
are hidden, the Z-order changes, and so on. Sounds like a window manager
to me, before too long :)

--JYL

> Hi!
>
> I had a big problem and that was i had 3 layers that i needed to have
> exacly 10 pixels vertical from eachother. The problem was not to place
> them but to keep the distance when they resized. I have now made a
> function for that, that triggers on "onresize" but its just for the
> vertical bit.
>
> I will however make one for horizontal resize and both vertical and
> horizontal aswell, and now i wonder if there is something else that
> needs to be added to this manager, so if you have any idees please send
> them to me.
>
> Regards
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
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[Dynapi-Dev] LayoutManager

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi!

I had a big problem and that was i had 3 layers that i needed to have
exacly 10 pixels vertical from eachother. The problem was not to place
them but to keep the distance when they resized. I have now made a
function for that, that triggers on "onresize" but its just for the
vertical bit.

I will however make one for horizontal resize and both vertical and
horizontal aswell, and now i wonder if there is something else that
needs to be added to this manager, so if you have any idees please send
them to me.

Regards
Daniel

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

See docs/docs/quickref.stylemanager.html

We could also look into stylemanager's approach as a
standard or come up with another.

--
Raymond Irving

--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> Hi Raymond!
> 
> I think this looks good, but i still dont understand
> how the
> stylemanager works really... It might help me
> understand the
> themes/styles a bit better, and the posibility to
> have a oppinion :)
> 
> Is there some documentation how it works, i havent
> found any but maybee
> i havent been looking that hard? Or maybee some step
> by step example?
> 
> Regards
> Daniel
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dyn...@li...
> [mailto:dyn...@li...] On
> Behalf Of Raymond
> Irving
> Sent: den 22 september 2003 01:56
> To: dyn...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto
> 
> 
> 
> You're correct Daniel.
> 
> I've converted the "how to create a widget" from the
> dynapi set http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/
> to
> DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.
> 
> I think we need a Standard Widget Model that
> supports
> the following:
> 
> 1) Inheritance
> 2) Themes/Skins
> 
> Is it possible for all the developers to come
> together
> and let's come up with a design model that can
> support
> the above features and others if needed?
> 
> What ideas do you have in mind?
> 
> --
> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > If someone that have good insight into the widget
> > creation and how they
> > should be build please write a documentation or a
> > step by step
> > instruction on how we should continue to build the
> > widgets?
> > 
> > I think this is quite important as I think most of
> > us are atleast
> > thinking on making a own widget to deliver to the
> > DYNapi project. So its
> > best for us all if the widget are build in some
> > specialway we all
> > follows.
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
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RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi Raymond!

I think this looks good, but i still dont understand how the
stylemanager works really... It might help me understand the
themes/styles a bit better, and the posibility to have a oppinion :)

Is there some documentation how it works, i havent found any but maybee
i havent been looking that hard? Or maybee some step by step example?

Regards
Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Raymond
Irving
Sent: den 22 september 2003 01:56
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto



You're correct Daniel.

I've converted the "how to create a widget" from the
dynapi set http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/ to
DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.

I think we need a Standard Widget Model that supports
the following:

1) Inheritance
2) Themes/Skins

Is it possible for all the developers to come together
and let's come up with a design model that can support
the above features and others if needed?

What ideas do you have in mind?

--
Raymond Irving


--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> If someone that have good insight into the widget
> creation and how they
> should be build please write a documentation or a
> step by step
> instruction on how we should continue to build the
> widgets?
> 
> I think this is quite important as I think most of
> us are atleast
> thinking on making a own widget to deliver to the
> DYNapi project. So its
> best for us all if the widget are build in some
> specialway we all
> follows.
> 
> Best Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

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You're correct Daniel.

I've converted the "how to create a widget" from the
dynapi set http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/ to
DynAPI 3.0 format. See the Tips & Tricks section.

I think we need a Standard Widget Model that supports
the following:

1) Inheritance
2) Themes/Skins

Is it possible for all the developers to come together
and let's come up with a design model that can support
the above features and others if needed?

What ideas do you have in mind?

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--- Daniel Tiru <de...@ti...> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> If someone that have good insight into the widget
> creation and how they
> should be build please write a documentation or a
> step by step
> instruction on how we should continue to build the
> widgets?
> 
> I think this is quite important as I think most of
> us are atleast
> thinking on making a own widget to deliver to the
> DYNapi project. So its
> best for us all if the widget are build in some
> specialway we all
> follows.
> 
> Best Regards
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] I off to Bulgaria

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

See you then, and perhaps I'll be caught up on this and my other mailing
lists by then.  Been playing catch-up all week, and going to be away all day
today.

Take it easy.

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] I off to Bulgaria


>
> All the best and take good care.
>
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>
>
>
> --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
> wrote:
> > I off to Bulgaria for a week, see you later.
> >
> > Ohhh..
> > I just ported my Debugger to DynAPI 3 but there are
> > some minor problems I
> > need to fix. When it's working fine, the IOS and
> > Editor port will be a snap
> > (I live a die for my debugger)
> >
> > Stay warm and I see you in a week.
> >
> > :D
> >
> > Michael
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] I off to Bulgaria

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

All the best and take good care.


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> I off to Bulgaria for a week, see you later.
> 
> Ohhh..
> I just ported my Debugger to DynAPI 3 but there are
> some minor problems I
> need to fix. When it's working fine, the IOS and
> Editor port will be a snap
> (I live a die for my debugger)
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[Dynapi-Dev] Widget Howto

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi!

If someone that have good insight into the widget creation and how they
should be build please write a documentation or a step by step
instruction on how we should continue to build the widgets?

I think this is quite important as I think most of us are atleast
thinking on making a own widget to deliver to the DYNapi project. So its
best for us all if the widget are build in some specialway we all
follows.

Best Regards
Daniel

[Dynapi-Dev] I off to Bulgaria

[Michael B. <mi...@mi...>]

I off to Bulgaria for a week, see you later.

Ohhh..
I just ported my Debugger to DynAPI 3 but there are some minor problems I
need to fix. When it's working fine, the IOS and Editor port will be a snap
(I live a die for my debugger)

Stay warm and I see you in a week.

:D

Michael

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

[Daniel T. <de...@ti...>]

Hi!

See the quickref: quickref.templatemanager.html

Regards
Daniel



-----Original Message-----
From: dyn...@li...
[mailto:dyn...@li...] On Behalf Of Jacob Levy
Sent: den 17 september 2003 21:02
To: dyn...@li...
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates


OK, so templates are like mega-widgets, grouping together a bunch of
DynAPI widgets. Cool, and very impressive example with the calendar.

Is it possible to update the template after its set? That is, let's say
I get another template from the server and then do
tmpl.setHTML(newHTML), will that update the layout to the new template?
Any other requirements so as not to leak memory (like destroying
something before calling setHTML again)?

Thanks! --JYL





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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] keyup / keydown confusion

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

Thanks for the fix.

This change is now inside cvs.

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--- Andrew Gillett <an...@zo...> wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> From the latest snapshot, the files:
>  htmlfile.js, line 45
>  htmltextarea.js, line 30 
>  htmltextbox.js, line 25
> 
> all contain the same error:
>  +' onkeydown="return htc._e(\'keyup\',this,event);"
> '
> 
> which should be:
>  +' onkeydown="return
> htc._e(\'keydown\',this,event);" '
> 
> 
> regards,
> Andrew Gillett
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Let there be Lines

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Den 03-09-17 16.43, skrev "Raymond Irving" <xw...@ya...>:

> 
> In DynAPI 3.0 there is a Graphics Widget. I think the
> these feature could be added to the Graphics Widget.
> 
> Any plans on doing so or are you going to create a new
> widget?

No! I see no real world use for the DynAPI 3 Graphics Widget (don't work on
IE5 Mac and is really really slow on Mozilla Mac) or my Line Class (unless
Windows support)

I think the best alternative if you want to use Graphics is SVG
There should be a snap to make the DynEditor to output a SVG file
I have had/have plans to include the line class and my bezier editor
and a timeline animation console to the editor

But first I will convert the IOS to 3.x

Michael

> Raymond Irving
> 
> 
> --- Michael Bystrom <mi...@mi...>
> wrote:
>> Let there be Lines | Wednesday, September 17, 2003
>> 
>> I forgot this one...
>> 
>> This is a little project I worked on a while back,
>> it?s sorta a vector
>> drawing app. And it works perfectly fine, but ONLY
>> on Macintosh... I has
>> something to do with the way that windows renders
>> it?s images in the
>> browser. I?t WAY COOL though, I has flash like
>> features like rubber band
>> snapping and you can move all the connected nodes so
>> you can make 3d like
>> dragable stuff...
>> 
>> Now I?ve tried to use SVG and Flash and then
>> manipulate the pluggins, but
>> there is that problem with pluggins and DynAPI.
>> 
>> Well I?ve included some screen shots so you can see
>> what it should look
>> like, If you have a Macintosh just download the code
>> and install Well you
>> can do that anyway even if you have a Windows
>> System.
>> 
>> Line requires IOS 0.2
>> 
>> I was really happy when I got it working the way I
>> wanted I had great plans
>> for it like a graph bar system etc.
>> 
>> I have I idea of how to fix this but it would
>> include WAY to much work, so
>> now I turn it over to you guys to see if you can
>> come up with some Ideas
>> 
>> Screen shoots and code http://www.michaelbystrom.com

[Dynapi-Dev] keyup / keydown confusion

[Andrew G. <an...@zo...>]

Hi, 

From the latest snapshot, the files:
 htmlfile.js, line 45
 htmltextarea.js, line 30 
 htmltextbox.js, line 25

all contain the same error:
 +' onkeydown="return htc._e(\'keyup\',this,event);" '

which should be:
 +' onkeydown="return htc._e(\'keydown\',this,event);" '


regards,
Andrew Gillett

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

correct but I would change the steps a little:

* Step 3: RemoveAllChildren on the template
* Step 5: Re-add those widgets that are needed,
destroy the rest
* Step 6: setHTML on the template with the new HTML

Otherwise you would have to call generate() for after
you've added the new widgets after you've set the html
of the template.

When setHTML() is called it calls the generate()
function to display the template's fields, etc so it
would be best to add those widgets before setHTML is
called. It's always good to know the name of the
fields before hand.

P.S. Maybe we can do something like
clearTemplate(method)

tp.clearTemplate('destroy')
tp.clearTemplate('remove')
tp.clearTemplate('reuse')

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--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> Sorry, my feature request was not well thought-out.
> By the time you let
> the template parse the HTML it's going to already
> need the widgets. Better
> to do what I think you're implying:
> 
> * Step 1: create the template with an HTML string or
> setHTML on an
> existing template
> * Step 2: create your widgets and add them both to
> an array and to the
> template.
> * ...
> * Step 3: RemoveAllChildren on the template
> * Step 4: setHTML on the template with the new HTML
> * Step 5: discover which widgets are still needed
> with getFieldNames
> * Step 6: Re-add those widgets that are needed,
> destroy the rest
> 
> That seems water-tight as far as memory mgmt goes,
> right?
> 
> --JYL
> 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >> Is there a way to find out what named javascript
> >> objects a template will
> >> need?
> >
> > I think such a feature would be useful. I think I
> can
> > add something like getFieldNames().
> >
> >> Itd be nice to keep those around (rather than
> >> having to recreate
> >> them) if the template changed in a way that
> simply
> >> moved some of the
> >> existing elements to new locations.
> >
> > IMO you can create the objects, store them in an
> array
> > then use removeAllChildren() to remove them from
> the
> > template before you change the template with
> > setHTML(). When they're need you can then add them
> to
> > the template.
> >
> > --
> > Raymond Irving
> >> With such an API I can write a loop that destroys
> >> those children that will
> >> no longer be needed.
> >>
> >> --JYL
> >>
> >> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Is it possible to update the template after
> its
> >> set?
> >> >
> >> > Yes
> >> >
> >> >> That is, let's say I
> >> >> get another template from the server and then
> do
> >> >> tmpl.setHTML(newHTML),
> >> >> will that update the layout to the new
> template?
> >> Any
> >> >> other requirements so
> >> >> as not to leak memory (like destroying
> something
> >> >> before calling setHTML
> >> >> again)?
> >> >
> >> > Once you call setHTML() it will replace content
> of
> >> the
> >> > Template those removeing the elements of the
> >> > DynLayers, etc. For best use call
> clearTemplate()
> >> to
> >> > deleteAllChildren from the template before
> >> changing
> >> > the content. this will prevent memory leaks.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks! --JYL
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

[Jacob L. <jy...@mo...>]

Sorry, my feature request was not well thought-out. By the time you let
the template parse the HTML it's going to already need the widgets. Better
to do what I think you're implying:

* Step 1: create the template with an HTML string or setHTML on an
existing template
* Step 2: create your widgets and add them both to an array and to the
template.
* ...
* Step 3: RemoveAllChildren on the template
* Step 4: setHTML on the template with the new HTML
* Step 5: discover which widgets are still needed with getFieldNames
* Step 6: Re-add those widgets that are needed, destroy the rest

That seems water-tight as far as memory mgmt goes, right?

--JYL

> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> Is there a way to find out what named javascript
>> objects a template will
>> need?
>
> I think such a feature would be useful. I think I can
> add something like getFieldNames().
>
>> Itd be nice to keep those around (rather than
>> having to recreate
>> them) if the template changed in a way that simply
>> moved some of the
>> existing elements to new locations.
>
> IMO you can create the objects, store them in an array
> then use removeAllChildren() to remove them from the
> template before you change the template with
> setHTML(). When they're need you can then add them to
> the template.
>
> --
> Raymond Irving
>> With such an API I can write a loop that destroys
>> those children that will
>> no longer be needed.
>>
>> --JYL
>>
>> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is it possible to update the template after its
>> set?
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> That is, let's say I
>> >> get another template from the server and then do
>> >> tmpl.setHTML(newHTML),
>> >> will that update the layout to the new template?
>> Any
>> >> other requirements so
>> >> as not to leak memory (like destroying something
>> >> before calling setHTML
>> >> again)?
>> >
>> > Once you call setHTML() it will replace content of
>> the
>> > Template those removeing the elements of the
>> > DynLayers, etc. For best use call clearTemplate()
>> to
>> > deleteAllChildren from the template before
>> changing
>> > the content. this will prevent memory leaks.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks! --JYL
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

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--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> Is there a way to find out what named javascript
> objects a template will
> need? 

I think such a feature would be useful. I think I can
add something like getFieldNames().

> Itd be nice to keep those around (rather than
> having to recreate
> them) if the template changed in a way that simply
> moved some of the
> existing elements to new locations.

IMO you can create the objects, store them in an array
then use removeAllChildren() to remove them from the
template before you change the template with
setHTML(). When they're need you can then add them to
the template. 

--
Raymond Irving
> With such an API I can write a loop that destroys
> those children that will
> no longer be needed.
> 
> --JYL
> 
> > --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
> >
> >> Is it possible to update the template after its
> set?
> >
> > Yes
> >
> >> That is, let's say I
> >> get another template from the server and then do
> >> tmpl.setHTML(newHTML),
> >> will that update the layout to the new template?
> Any
> >> other requirements so
> >> as not to leak memory (like destroying something
> >> before calling setHTML
> >> again)?
> >
> > Once you call setHTML() it will replace content of
> the
> > Template those removeing the elements of the
> > DynLayers, etc. For best use call clearTemplate()
> to
> > deleteAllChildren from the template before
> changing
> > the content. this will prevent memory leaks.
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks! --JYL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

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Is there a way to find out what named javascript objects a template will
need? Itd be nice to keep those around (rather than having to recreate
them) if the template changed in a way that simply moved some of the
existing elements to new locations.

With such an API I can write a loop that destroys those children that will
no longer be needed.

--JYL

> --- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to update the template after its set?
>
> Yes
>
>> That is, let's say I
>> get another template from the server and then do
>> tmpl.setHTML(newHTML),
>> will that update the layout to the new template? Any
>> other requirements so
>> as not to leak memory (like destroying something
>> before calling setHTML
>> again)?
>
> Once you call setHTML() it will replace content of the
> Template those removeing the elements of the
> DynLayers, etc. For best use call clearTemplate() to
> deleteAllChildren from the template before changing
> the content. this will prevent memory leaks.
>
>>
>> Thanks! --JYL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Templates

[Raymond I. <xw...@ya...>]

--- Jacob Levy <jy...@mo...> wrote:

> Is it possible to update the template after its set?

Yes

> That is, let's say I
> get another template from the server and then do
> tmpl.setHTML(newHTML),
> will that update the layout to the new template? Any
> other requirements so
> as not to leak memory (like destroying something
> before calling setHTML
> again)?

Once you call setHTML() it will replace content of the
Template those removeing the elements of the
DynLayers, etc. For best use call clearTemplate() to
deleteAllChildren from the template before changing
the content. this will prevent memory leaks.

> 
> Thanks! --JYL
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Where are the server-side implementations for SODA?

[Leif W <war...@us...>]

I believe those are in the examples/ioelmsrv.soda.* files, which also
require the ioelmsrv.* (where .* is your language).  ASP JScript and
VBScript are the only complete implementations as of yet.  I'm working on
the Perl and PHP versions, my copies are up to date with the CVS, but the
PHP SODA isn't done yet, they're just there to keep everything synched after
I spend a few days working on it here or there.

Leif

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Levy" <jy...@mo...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Where are the server-side implementations for SODA?


> Stupid question -- I got the latest nightly snapshot and searched for the
> various server-side implementations, couldn't find anything. Can someone
> provide a pointer for that?
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> Thanks! --JYL
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