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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2005-06-01 04:33:37
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Bugs item #797831, was opened at 2003-08-30 13:15 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by warp9pnt9 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105757&aid=797831&group_id=5757 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Deleted >Resolution: Invalid >Priority: 1 Submitted By: Charles Luo (qcharles) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: an on-line short questionnaire please Initial Comment: Hi http://www.my3q.com/home2/21/cluo/88170.phtml Please forgive me to borther you with my short on-line questionnaire, although I've known that you probably have received the mails like this before. Currently, I am a student of Durham Business School (UK), striving on completing the writing of my MA dissertation. I just need to borrow your SEVEN minutes (I promise, have timed it)to help me run to the completion of my dissertation. Please............ The aim of this questionnaire is to understand how people reflect on the importance of trust and collaboration to the success of projects (e.g. Open Source Software Development) carried out in a virtual environment. And that will be much much appreaciated if you could forward the above questionnaire link to your project members, colleagues, and friends. Thank you............. Best regards, Charles Luo ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: L W (warp9pnt9) Date: 2005-06-01 00:33 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=706287 This was no bug. It was an unsolicited message submitted as a bug. Please do not bug us with invalid bugs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105757&aid=797831&group_id=5757 |
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From: Marcelo D. <dom...@ho...> - 2005-05-21 19:19:14
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<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>Hello every body!</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>I've been developing a java framework which is agnostic related to GUI tecnology. For the first version was developed a driver based on DynAPI kernel. If you got interested in having some eye candy on what DynAPI can do for you, than take a look at site <A href="http://www.stela.org.br:8080/cvlattes2">http://www.stela.org.br:8080/cvlattes2</A>.</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>I don't now how long the site will be kept working but for while it is. There, you will find a Curriculum Vitae X-Internet application (<SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT-BR; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Brazilian </SPAN>Portuguese), which will be soon released officially at <A href="http://www.cnpq.br">http://www.cnpq.br</A>. The site, some times, is quite slow so don't get disappointed, the problem is our band-width.</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>I did some improvement to DynAPI kernel (based on DynAPI 3.x beta) and now it knows how to handle layouts.</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Obs.: The GUI widgets are not free (for while ;) ).</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Best regards!</DIV> <DIV class=RTE> </DIV> <DIV class=RTE>Marcelo Domingos</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMABRBR/2752??PS=47575" target="_top">Instale grátis. Clique aqui.</a> </html> |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-05-20 12:04:38
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Hi. I just posted about the topic of the Trackers posting to the DynAPI-Dev mailing list. I pushed through the old pending requests which weren't lost as an example. If you have an opinion, suggestion, feedback, or comment, or care at all if you get more messages like these, or none like these, or if it should be a diffirent list, then please go subscribe to the admin list at dyn...@li... and read about it and respond there, as it's admin topic, not really dev related. Leif |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2005-05-20 11:21:41
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Support Requests item #1157174, was opened at 2005-03-05 03:55 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by warp9pnt9 You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=205757&aid=1157174&group_id=5757 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed Priority: 5 Submitted By: David Rabinowitz (dav1d) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Problems with the website Initial Comment: The website is cluttered with wranings: Warning: setlocale(): Passing locale category name as string is deprecated. Use the LC_* -constants instead. in /home/groups/d/dy/dynapi/htdocs/dynapi/mainfile.php on line 240 The documentation page is not readable: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare gettext() in /home/groups/d/dy/dynapi/htdocs/doccenter/lib/config.php on line 48 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: L W (warp9pnt9) Date: 2005-05-20 07:21 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=706287 I had made these messages go away by quoting the constants to make them strings, as was recommended. No idea if that broke anything, or if anything else had been left broken. Anyways the point is moot since agillett has completed the website upgrade! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Andrew Gillett (agillett) Date: 2005-04-22 06:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=134108 The website uses a *very* old version of phpWebSite which doesn't work with the version of PHP that is available on SourceForge. The site also uses an old version of phpWiki. An upgrade to the latest version of phpWebSite is in progress. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=205757&aid=1157174&group_id=5757 |
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-23 03:00:32
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Hello All, I have upgraded the DynAPI website on sourceforge. I'm hoping to revitalize this project and my immediate aim is to help produce DynAPI-3.0.0-final. There is much work to be done to reach this goal, particularly documentation, testing, and bug fixing. The new website should be a valuable resource for collaboration amongst developers and users. The old website was based on phpWebSite-0.7.6 and phpWiki-1.2.0 (both *very* old). I have installed phpWebSite-0.10.1. Because this skips several major releases, it was not possible to transfer all the content of the old site to the new. The old website is still available, but at a different URL: http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/archive/dynapi/ The new website is simply at: http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/ And the old site at http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/dynapi/ now redirects to the new site. None of the user account records could be transferred to the new site, so you'll need to register again. Many accounts never worked on the old site anyway, because the password encryption ceased working where SourceForge upgraded to php-4.3. The old "doccenter" was based on phpWiki. The new phpWebSite includes a wiki module, so I haven't tried upgrading the wiki. I'm inclined just to move content, one page at a time, from doccenter to the new wiki module. The new phpWebSite CMS contains many modules, most of which I haven't explored yet. If you're interested in DynAPI and have the time and inclination to help build the new website (it's still fairly empty), then please get in touch with me - your help will be very welcome. Let see if DynAPI can have a future! Andrew Gillett |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2005-04-22 11:24:55
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Bugs item #1179797, was opened at 2005-04-10 01:46 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by agillett You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105757&aid=1179797&group_id=5757 Category: DynAPI 3 API Group: None Status: Open Resolution: None Priority: 5 Submitted By: Fausto (faustogomes) >Assigned to: Andrew Gillett (agillett) Summary: Memory Leak when using Frames Initial Comment: When using frames DynAPI will leak memory at about 500kb per F5 (Refresh) on IE 6 sp1. It will not leak when no frames are used. This version has the patch http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=787137&group_id=5757&atid=105757 implemented already. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Andrew Gillett (agillett) Date: 2005-04-22 21:24 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=134108 A few questions: Which version of DynAPI - 3.0beta1, one of the snapshots, or the current CVS version? When you say "When using frames", I take it you mean you have a page with multiple frames, one of which is displaying a page that uses DynAPI? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=105757&aid=1179797&group_id=5757 |
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From: SourceForge.net <no...@so...> - 2005-04-22 10:40:03
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Support Requests item #1157174, was opened at 2005-03-05 19:55 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by agillett You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=205757&aid=1157174&group_id=5757 Category: None Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: David Rabinowitz (dav1d) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: Problems with the website Initial Comment: The website is cluttered with wranings: Warning: setlocale(): Passing locale category name as string is deprecated. Use the LC_* -constants instead. in /home/groups/d/dy/dynapi/htdocs/dynapi/mainfile.php on line 240 The documentation page is not readable: Fatal error: Cannot redeclare gettext() in /home/groups/d/dy/dynapi/htdocs/doccenter/lib/config.php on line 48 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Andrew Gillett (agillett) Date: 2005-04-22 20:40 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=134108 The website uses a *very* old version of phpWebSite which doesn't work with the version of PHP that is available on SourceForge. The site also uses an old version of phpWiki. An upgrade to the latest version of phpWebSite is in progress. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=205757&aid=1157174&group_id=5757 |
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From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2005-04-15 04:10:01
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Okay, I've create an account named DougMelvin.
I'll need the connection info to install the theme I guess.
I figured at first I'd post a few samples as just html and we can get =
feedback.
cheers
Doug Melvin
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Andrew Gillett=20
To: dyn...@li...=20
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI website upgrade - help wanted
Doug Melvin wrote:=20
very late at night (or very early morning)...
I only took a quick spin and two things come to mind:
1) The black text on dark blue background would be difficult for =
someone who is visually impaired, or colour blind to read. Perhapse =
lighten the blue a lot, or change the black text to white for better =
contrast.
Hmm. The "dark blue" background looked quite light on my laptop. I've =
since copied some colours and the logo from the original website. Is it =
still too dark? (the previous colour was #2794d8, now it is #a1b8cc).=20
2)Would it be possible to put an extra line break between articles =
in the right-most column.
I find that it is difficult for me to pick out induvidual items from =
eachother. Also maybe widen the right panel ever so slightly as well. =
:-)
Yes, the column is narrower than on the original site; the numbering =
of items makes it even worse; and there is no vertical space between =
items. I will fix this as soon as I can.
Cheers.
Doug
P.S. If y ou really want laout submissions, I'll do one up.=20
however, I will warn you that I am somewhat a minimalist when it =
comes to visual design.
<grin>
I like minimalist. Take a look at =
http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/phpwebsite/themes/ to see what a =
phpwebsite theme consists of. I've made a copy of the "Default" theme, =
called it "DynAPI", and set this as the site default.
Doug, if you create an account on the new site (I'm unable to transfer =
the accounts from the original site), then I'll enable admin access for =
you. To install or modify a theme, you'll need shell access to the =
server. Is this a problem?
thank you for responding,
Andrew
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-15 00:48:34
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Doug Melvin wrote: > very late at night (or very early morning)... > > I only took a quick spin and two things come to mind: > > 1) The black text on dark blue background would be difficult for > someone who is visually impaired, or colour blind to read. Perhapse > lighten the blue a lot, or change the black text to white for better > contrast. Hmm. The "dark blue" background looked quite light on my laptop. I've since copied some colours and the logo from the original website. Is it still too dark? (the previous colour was #2794d8, now it is #a1b8cc). > > 2)Would it be possible to put an extra line break between articles in > the right-most column. > I find that it is difficult for me to pick out induvidual items from > eachother. Also maybe widen the right panel ever so slightly as well. :-) Yes, the column is narrower than on the original site; the numbering of items makes it even worse; and there is no vertical space between items. I will fix this as soon as I can. > > Cheers. > Doug > > P.S. If y ou really want laout submissions, I'll do one up. > however, I will warn you that I am somewhat a minimalist when it > comes to visual design. > <grin> I like minimalist. Take a look at http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/phpwebsite/themes/ to see what a phpwebsite theme consists of. I've made a copy of the "Default" theme, called it "DynAPI", and set this as the site default. Doug, if you create an account on the new site (I'm unable to transfer the accounts from the original site), then I'll enable admin access for you. To install or modify a theme, you'll need shell access to the server. Is this a problem? thank you for responding, Andrew |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-14 16:01:21
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> Andrew Gillett; 2005-04-14@01:07 -0500 > > As I see it, the upgrade consists of these tasks: > > 1. get the new CMS installed and working (done), > 2. copy as much content as possible from the old CMS (started, in > progress), > 3. create a default theme for the site, > 4. deploy the website as the default homepage at > dynapi.sourceforge.net, > 5. define a site structure (categories etc.), > 6. add new content. > I added a new Sub Task called Web Site, and added a new Task, phpWebSite theme creation. http://sourceforge.net/pm/task.php?func=detailtask&project_task_id=114417&group_id=5757&group_project_id=42450 Andrew, please tweak if needed. I put as highest priority (9) and 10 hours seemed adequate, but I was only guessing. It may take someone 30 minutes to 2 hours for all I know. Potential advantages of using Tasks: * keep track of open tasks and their statuses as we get more tasks * look back at all the completed tasks for a sense of accomplishment * show refer people to the open tasks when they offer non-specific help * increase the project's SF activity rating to maybe get in the top 10 for visibility * refer people to the closed tasks to see what has already been done > Steps 1, 2 & 4 are all quite mechanical and I'm happy to do them. Step > 3 needs someone with a sense of style. Steps 5 & 6 are the important > ones that really need input from the entire DynAPI community for the > best result. > > The temporary URL for the new site is > http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/phpwebsite/ > > If you would like to help with any aspect of this upgrade (theme > design, admin, structure, content...) just let me know and I'll set > you up. Also, any other suggestions, feedback, etc. will be most > welcome. I haven't had a chance to learn about phpWebSite yet. By next week I'll make time to learn and then I'll know enough to say something. ;-) Leif > Andrew Gillett |
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From: Doug M. <do...@cr...> - 2005-04-14 09:12:48
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very late at night (or very early morning)...
I only took a quick spin and two things come to mind:
1) The black text on dark blue background would be difficult for someone =
who is visually impaired, or colour blind to read. Perhapse lighten the =
blue a lot, or change the black text to white for better contrast.
2)Would it be possible to put an extra line break between articles in =
the right-most column.
I find that it is difficult for me to pick out induvidual items from =
eachother. Also maybe widen the right panel ever so slightly as well. =
:-)
Cheers.
Doug
P.S. If y ou really want laout submissions, I'll do one up.=20
however, I will warn you that I am somewhat a minimalist when it =
comes to visual design.
<grin>
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Andrew Gillett=20
To: dyn...@li...=20
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:07 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] DynAPI website upgrade - help wanted
Hello All,
The DynAPI website has been somewhat neglected for several years now, =
and some parts of it no longer work. So I've begun work on updating the =
site.
The old website was built using a CMS called phpWebSite-0.7.6, which =
is way out of date. I've installed the latest release of phpWebSite =
(0.10.1) on an adjacent directory on the sourceforge site, and I've =
begun transferring data from the old site to the new (phpWebSite stores =
all its content in a mysql database).
There is no simple upgrade between the two releases, as too many =
revisions have been skipped and the schema has changed significantly. So =
I have started with the default (blank) website and am transferring data =
one table at a time.
I really need help to create a default theme for the site - this =
consists of graphics and template files that define the L&F. My own =
graphic design skills are fairly abysmal, so if someone out there is =
able to help with this then we'll be able to get the new site up and =
running very soon.
As I see it, the upgrade consists of these tasks:
1.. get the new CMS installed and working (done),=20
2.. copy as much content as possible from the old CMS (started, in =
progress),=20
3.. create a default theme for the site,=20
4.. deploy the website as the default homepage at =
dynapi.sourceforge.net,
5.. define a site structure (categories etc.),=20
6.. add new content.=20
Steps 1, 2 & 4 are all quite mechanical and I'm happy to do them. Step =
3 needs someone with a sense of style. Steps 5 & 6 are the important =
ones that really need input from the entire DynAPI community for the =
best result.
The temporary URL for the new site is
http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/phpwebsite/
If you would like to help with any aspect of this upgrade (theme =
design, admin, structure, content...) just let me know and I'll set you =
up. Also, any other suggestions, feedback, etc. will be most welcome.
Andrew Gillett
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-14 05:07:52
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Hello All,
The DynAPI website has been somewhat neglected for several years now,
and some parts of it no longer work. So I've begun work on updating the
site.
The old website was built using a CMS called phpWebSite-0.7.6, which is
way out of date. I've installed the latest release of phpWebSite
(0.10.1) on an adjacent directory on the sourceforge site, and I've
begun transferring data from the old site to the new (phpWebSite stores
all its content in a mysql database).
There is no simple upgrade between the two releases, as too many
revisions have been skipped and the schema has changed significantly. So
I have started with the default (blank) website and am transferring data
one table at a time.
I really need help to create a default theme for the site - this
consists of graphics and template files that define the L&F. My own
graphic design skills are fairly abysmal, so if someone out there is
able to help with this then we'll be able to get the new site up and
running very soon.
As I see it, the upgrade consists of these tasks:
1. get the new CMS installed and working (done),
2. copy as much content as possible from the old CMS (started, in
progress),
3. create a default theme for the site,
4. deploy the website as the default homepage at dynapi.sourceforge.net,
5. define a site structure (categories etc.),
6. add new content.
Steps 1, 2 & 4 are all quite mechanical and I'm happy to do them. Step 3
needs someone with a sense of style. Steps 5 & 6 are the important ones
that really need input from the entire DynAPI community for the best result.
The temporary URL for the new site is
http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/phpwebsite/
If you would like to help with any aspect of this upgrade (theme design,
admin, structure, content...) just let me know and I'll set you up.
Also, any other suggestions, feedback, etc. will be most welcome.
Andrew Gillett
|
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-05 07:48:48
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> "Andrew Gillett" <an...@zo...>; 2005-04-04@23:19 -0500 > > Hi Fausto, > > Thanks for coming forward. > > You can submit bugs, patches, feature requests, etc. on the "trackers" > page: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=5757 > > Items submitted to the tracker system have been ignored for a while > now, and that is one of the things we're trying to change. Absolutely, 100%. Please note that the trackers may continue to be ignored for a little while longer. As admin, we're learning about all of the features that SourceForge makes available to projects. And we're also trying to have discussions on the dynapi-admin list (open to all to subscribe, and open to subscribers for posting, at the very least during the reorganization process). We need to assess the state of the website and other adimistrative tasks, and kind of develop some operating procedures. So we need to research, identify, discuss, make decisions and prioritize what needs to be done on a project-wide scope, not just the code. > If you're interested and you persist in helping, then CVS access can > be granted. Also, we need to identify people's specific area(s) of interest and identify people who will make a committment to make themselves available to be assigned tasks, wether we post a task and a member volunteers, or we ask for members to volunteer even if it's not in their primary area of interest. Or if you just want to test code and submit patches, that is great too. But someone still needs to apply the patch to their local copy, review and commit them to CVS too. If you go through all the trouble of identifying and fixing a bug, that's only a little more work to test it thoroughly, maybe ask others, and commit to the CVS tree. It's less work than to have someone like me who might be unfamiliar with that part of the code, or the problem, try to understand what is broke, apply the patch, re-test it, and then commit it. That makes double work for the same result, so it takes twice as long. There's a lot of work to be done and I know I can't do it all by myself which is why I'd want members I can count on who are receptive to the idea of being assigned tasks of any type, so long as they agree. There's nobody forcing anything or assigning tasks without getting an OK from the member. But if you're a member, then at the very least expect to be asked to do something like check the trackers regularly, check bug reports and test patches and submit code in the areas in which you have expressed interest. Check the dynapi-admin mailing list archives, read the posts, and if you have ideas on those topics, by all means subscribe and speak up. Personally, I may have some good ideas, I may have some bad ideas, I can't know unless we have discussions with contributors, wether they are other admin, members, developers, or users. Basically it's up to everyone to choose their level of involvement. Leif > Andrew > > Fausto wrote: > >>Hello guys, >> >>I've been using DynAPI for about 1 year now and I am very happy to see >>this >>project is again moving along. Can I be of some help in development? >> >>I changed many places in DynAPI to make it work and I am also good >>with >>javaScript and Java. >> >>Any directions would be wonderfull. >> >>Fausto. >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real > users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > > |
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-05 03:20:01
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Hi Fausto, Thanks for coming forward. You can submit bugs, patches, feature requests, etc. on the "trackers" page: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=5757 Items submitted to the tracker system have been ignored for a while now, and that is one of the things we're trying to change. If you're interested and you persist in helping, then CVS access can be granted. Andrew Fausto wrote: >Hello guys, > >I've been using DynAPI for about 1 year now and I am very happy to see this >project is again moving along. Can I be of some help in development? > >I changed many places in DynAPI to make it work and I am also good with >javaScript and Java. > >Any directions would be wonderfull. > >Fausto. > > |
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From: Fausto <fau...@co...> - 2005-04-05 01:43:56
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Hello guys, I've been using DynAPI for about 1 year now and I am very happy to see this project is again moving along. Can I be of some help in development? I changed many places in DynAPI to make it work and I am also good with javaScript and Java. Any directions would be wonderfull. Fausto. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leif W" <war...@us...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Is this project dead? > > "Frank Alcantara" <fra...@th...>; 2005-04-01@17:01 -0500 > > [snip] > > > First of all, please forgive my English....:) > > > > We are trying to finish the Thyapi site this weekend... we have one > > old > > version in sf cvs... it is funcional, but it is old... about two > > months > > ago. We as got in surprise with Dynapi coming back to life...:) > > Congratulations.... > > Two months is new-enough for us. ;-) > > > We did fixed some small bugs in Dynapi, but we will not be able to > > send > > it to you until next Tuesday, sorry for this delay, but we are trying > > to > > finish one project this weekend. We already tested thyapi, in ie, > > firefox and safari it is running like a charm...:) > > We'll probably be taking some days to a week to read through the admin > stuff at SourceForge, and figuring out where every knob and button is > located and what happens if you twiddle it. Then we'll have some more > days or week discussing different topics and figuring out what to > change, what to remove, what to repair. We're not just looking at the > code base, but the site content and layout, and also whatever is in the > shell server. I think there's a lot of cruft in there that could > probably be removed or archived if it's useful. > > Anything you can provide would be great, but we won't be ready for a > little bit. Did you happen to keep track of all the bugs and the fixes? > You could perhaps make patches (diff -u) if the files are similar. Or > if they are too different then you could maybe add notes to the bug > tracker, identify where the problem is in DynAPI CVS code (file, line, > char, string), and how to fix. > > > Yeap, we will be proud to help DynApi, as far as possible, > > Unfortunately > > we did started ThyApi project and did some local marketing about it. > > And > > do not want to loose these efforts. > > Understandable. So long as licensing is observed (DynAPI is LGPL) and > full credit is given at least in the source code, there's no problem. > If you change the API, I think it means the changes must be released as > LGPL. But if you make extensions to the API that exist in completely > separate files, then they can be whatever license you want. Contrary to > GPL, which would require the other code to also be GPL. At least it's > how I understand it. There was discussion some years ago, it's in the > archives. > > > Our main site is partially on air... http://www.thyamad.com there you > > will find more information about us... > > I found it, thanks. The site looks very professional. > > > I am admin in other projects, and developer in some others. in one of > > then I just send one idea to keep descendant projects with the > > original > > one. I got this idea from Apache.org. The incubator. > > Well, there is the IDE written using DynAPI, but I think they set up > another SF project because there were some problems or confusions about > creating CVS entries. I'm not 100% sure that's correct, it's from > memory. ;-) There is also the DynAPI compressor, and I can't remember > where it is, but that's surely another example of things that should go > into the incubator or maybe the project itself. > > > In few words.... > > We could create a branch in Dynapi cvs called incubator and create > > some > > rules to put the descendant projects there. So, for example, we could > > keep our thyapi project page in source forge, and keep it also in > > Dynapi > > incubator, The vantages are... The projects keep connect and we create > > a > > new barrier, even psychological, to fork, the projects will bring > > visibility for each other. And most of all the main project will keep > > receiving corrections and enhancements from the descendant projects. > > What do you think about it? > > Your English was very good up until now, and I'm a little confused. ;-) > I think I understand, but we can talk more later to make sure we > understand. The main point I am confused about, is how these are > connected. If you make a change to Thyapi then how do the changes get > into Dynapi? Is it automatic or needs to be done manually. Because as > far as I know, it would be manually, and that could create extra > maintenance work. But I may not understand correctly. But I agree, it > would be good to advertise the code as much as possible... But only when > we're ready! ;-) > > > of course it will need some well wrote guide lines...:) > > > > > > Besides your opinion we will send our corrections, As far I remember, > > all of then was about browser compatibility. > > Yeah, ther are a lot of open bugs with compatibility problems, some was > on the list, some in the trackers, some on other parts of the site, a > lot isn't connected into the trackers so it makes a hard job to collect > everything and put it there, test and resolve it, but make sure it works > with some older browsers too. > > Leif > > > > > > > |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-03 19:00:01
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> "Frank Alcantara" <fra...@th...>; 2005-04-01@17:01 -0500 [snip] > First of all, please forgive my English....:) > > We are trying to finish the Thyapi site this weekend... we have one > old > version in sf cvs... it is funcional, but it is old... about two > months > ago. We as got in surprise with Dynapi coming back to life...:) > Congratulations.... Two months is new-enough for us. ;-) > We did fixed some small bugs in Dynapi, but we will not be able to > send > it to you until next Tuesday, sorry for this delay, but we are trying > to > finish one project this weekend. We already tested thyapi, in ie, > firefox and safari it is running like a charm...:) We'll probably be taking some days to a week to read through the admin stuff at SourceForge, and figuring out where every knob and button is located and what happens if you twiddle it. Then we'll have some more days or week discussing different topics and figuring out what to change, what to remove, what to repair. We're not just looking at the code base, but the site content and layout, and also whatever is in the shell server. I think there's a lot of cruft in there that could probably be removed or archived if it's useful. Anything you can provide would be great, but we won't be ready for a little bit. Did you happen to keep track of all the bugs and the fixes? You could perhaps make patches (diff -u) if the files are similar. Or if they are too different then you could maybe add notes to the bug tracker, identify where the problem is in DynAPI CVS code (file, line, char, string), and how to fix. > Yeap, we will be proud to help DynApi, as far as possible, > Unfortunately > we did started ThyApi project and did some local marketing about it. > And > do not want to loose these efforts. Understandable. So long as licensing is observed (DynAPI is LGPL) and full credit is given at least in the source code, there's no problem. If you change the API, I think it means the changes must be released as LGPL. But if you make extensions to the API that exist in completely separate files, then they can be whatever license you want. Contrary to GPL, which would require the other code to also be GPL. At least it's how I understand it. There was discussion some years ago, it's in the archives. > Our main site is partially on air... http://www.thyamad.com there you > will find more information about us... I found it, thanks. The site looks very professional. > I am admin in other projects, and developer in some others. in one of > then I just send one idea to keep descendant projects with the > original > one. I got this idea from Apache.org. The incubator. Well, there is the IDE written using DynAPI, but I think they set up another SF project because there were some problems or confusions about creating CVS entries. I'm not 100% sure that's correct, it's from memory. ;-) There is also the DynAPI compressor, and I can't remember where it is, but that's surely another example of things that should go into the incubator or maybe the project itself. > In few words.... > We could create a branch in Dynapi cvs called incubator and create > some > rules to put the descendant projects there. So, for example, we could > keep our thyapi project page in source forge, and keep it also in > Dynapi > incubator, The vantages are... The projects keep connect and we create > a > new barrier, even psychological, to fork, the projects will bring > visibility for each other. And most of all the main project will keep > receiving corrections and enhancements from the descendant projects. > What do you think about it? Your English was very good up until now, and I'm a little confused. ;-) I think I understand, but we can talk more later to make sure we understand. The main point I am confused about, is how these are connected. If you make a change to Thyapi then how do the changes get into Dynapi? Is it automatic or needs to be done manually. Because as far as I know, it would be manually, and that could create extra maintenance work. But I may not understand correctly. But I agree, it would be good to advertise the code as much as possible... But only when we're ready! ;-) > of course it will need some well wrote guide lines...:) > > > Besides your opinion we will send our corrections, As far I remember, > all of then was about browser compatibility. Yeah, ther are a lot of open bugs with compatibility problems, some was on the list, some in the trackers, some on other parts of the site, a lot isn't connected into the trackers so it makes a hard job to collect everything and put it there, test and resolve it, but make sure it works with some older browsers too. Leif |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-02 21:54:23
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> "Kevin" <ke...@ke...>; 2005-04-02@07:20 -0500 > > Hi, > > My sourceforge Login Name is "kevinsf" and ID "713533". > > I did tabmanager and framemanager a while back not sure > how it works now. > > Are any dynapi sourceforge accounts or dynapi-dev list > e-mails bouncing? If not people may be active in reading > what's going on or even away on holiday. Well, I know for sure that Dan's email is totally dead. I forget, maybe one of Jordi's works and one didn't. Most didn't bounce. But the mail accounts for all I know are abandonned, or the people are just not even interested in saying they're not interested. > Starting a cull within a week or two of the new activity > here? But yes delete those with bouncing e-mail accounts. I want people who are motivated to work on DynAPI. It will give a more accurate picture to people if the members list is full of people who actually do something besides collect dust. Doesn't have to be massive things. Even answering one email every month or two, just some sign of life. If they have said nothing on any list and contributed no code or patches for over 6 months, they're not motivated enough, forget them. If they are on vacation, in the hospital, kidnapped, or extremely busy, and they come back, and see they are no longer a member, then they have a choice. Just say "Hey put me back!", or just walk away. If they're not motivated to say "Hey, put me back", then forget them. If they're reading and can't make up their mind within one week, forget them. If we fill a project full of people who are not motivated, it will stagnate and die again. :-\ I am sorry if this offends motivated people who were preocccupied with other things, and I want it understood that it's no problem to have membership reinstated. I am not sorry if this offends unmotivated people, because the lack of motivation is offensive to me. ;-) Yes, I lakcked motivation for so long, so I asked myself should I just quit or keep going? It didn't take any longer than about 1 second to decide to keep trying and step up to the task. I've been motivated by some recent quotation that I read. "As a final test of [Napoleon] Hill's staying qualities Carnegie put the question squarely, asking him is he were given an opportunity to organize the philosophy with Carnegie's help, whether or not he would complete the task which probably would require twenty years. Unknown to Hill, Carnegie gave him sixty seconds in which to make up his mind. In twenty-nine seconds Hill said that he would begin the job and complete it. Later he learned that Carnegie was sitting with a stopwatch in his hand, timing the answer. If it had gone beyond the sixty seconds, Hill would have lost his chance, as Carnegie had learned from his observation of men that those who are slow to make up their minds are also slow in carrying out their decisions." Carnegie gave 60 seconds. I gave roughly 10,000 times that. It's more than enough. :) Leif |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-02 19:31:41
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> "Andrew Gillett" <an...@zo...>; 2005-04-01@18:04 -0500 > > Thank you again. > > The first tasks will be for us to survey the scene and discuss what > needs doing. But don't worry, I won't be rushing in to make any > drastic changes. In fact I don't intend to make any changes without > prior discussion, planning and consensus. > > And like youself, I will also have to spend time finding my my around > the sourceforge admin facilities. NOTE: I want to move this discussion to the admin list, and break up the topics into smaller, more manageble pieces. IMO We should leave the dev list for talking about code, not project administration, so as to have a cleaner archive. Ok, I can't even post to that list without moderator approval, so I'll need to go change the password and change the settings to allow subscribed users (if possible restrict to members), and turn off moderation. That stuff can be turned on later if needed but right now we need an open channel for active members. Any objections? I'll wait until I hear anything. Anyone interested, please (in a day or so) subscribe and check the archive. If there's any problems getting on the list, let me know. I don't know how long it takes for the archive to pick up posts. Subscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-admin Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=dynapi-admin Leif |
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From: Kevin <ke...@ke...> - 2005-04-02 12:18:48
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Hi, My sourceforge Login Name is "kevinsf" and ID "713533". I did tabmanager and framemanager a while back not sure how it works now. Are any dynapi sourceforge accounts or dynapi-dev list e-mails bouncing? If not people may be active in reading what's going on or even away on holiday. Starting a cull within a week or two of the new activity here? But yes delete those with bouncing e-mail accounts. Kevin. |
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-01 23:04:58
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Thank you again. The first tasks will be for us to survey the scene and discuss what needs doing. But don't worry, I won't be rushing in to make any drastic changes. In fact I don't intend to make any changes without prior discussion, planning and consensus. And like youself, I will also have to spend time finding my my around the sourceforge admin facilities. Andrew Leif W wrote: >> "Andrew Gillett" <an...@zo...>; 2005-04-01@16:35 -0500 >> >>> Leif W wrote: >>> >>> I'm an admin now, so there's that. >>> > > Andrew, you're an admin too. Login at your earliest convenience. For > God's sake don't change anything without notifying the other admin. > ;-) I took four actions so far, de-op Richard, remove Richard (per > request), add you, and op you. I've been looking at everything and > trying to just take in all the functionality provided by SourceForge. > I had no idea, it's mind boggling, and a bit confusing. ;-) Well if > something is majorly broken and needs immediate repair, go for it, but > document what the problem is, what the change is, and where the > changes were made. Well it's what I did with the site's PHP quirks > anyways. > >> Well done. And thank you for fixing that PHP problem! It's useful to >> have access to all the old documentation again. > > > The is a big problem but I don't want to advertise it publicly, and > have taken a backup last night. ;-) > >> Do you have any idea what the "Login" on the project home page does? >> This is not the SourceForge login, but is something specific to the >> dynapi page. I've tried creating several logins but the my passwords >> are never accepted. > > > I have absolutely no idea what that was for... presumably to give > people access to modify the pages. > >> The two areas I can see myself working on over the coming weeks (or >> months more likely) are documentation and testing. But these will be >> topics for new threads. > > > You can assign yourself whichever roles you wish. Before doing > anything, let's just make sure we have first a definition of what we > think needs to be done and a reasonable consensus. I'll discuss > systems for evaluating consensus on the dynapi-admin list, so get > yourself subscribed. I'm doing so now. > >> Let's hope we're able to breathe some life back into this project and >> revive interest in it. > > > To this end there are what appear at first to be a mind boggling array > of features provided by SourceForge. For instance, there are ways to > advertise seeking developers for the project, and so on. We can > discuss this on the admin list perhaps. > > Leif > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-01 22:14:52
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> "Andrew Gillett" <an...@zo...>; 2005-04-01@16:35 -0500 > >> Leif W wrote: >> >> I'm an admin now, so there's that. >> Andrew, you're an admin too. Login at your earliest convenience. For God's sake don't change anything without notifying the other admin. ;-) I took four actions so far, de-op Richard, remove Richard (per request), add you, and op you. I've been looking at everything and trying to just take in all the functionality provided by SourceForge. I had no idea, it's mind boggling, and a bit confusing. ;-) Well if something is majorly broken and needs immediate repair, go for it, but document what the problem is, what the change is, and where the changes were made. Well it's what I did with the site's PHP quirks anyways. > Well done. And thank you for fixing that PHP problem! It's useful to > have access to all the old documentation again. The is a big problem but I don't want to advertise it publicly, and have taken a backup last night. ;-) > Do you have any idea what the "Login" on the project home page does? > This is not the SourceForge login, but is something specific to the > dynapi page. I've tried creating several logins but the my passwords > are never accepted. I have absolutely no idea what that was for... presumably to give people access to modify the pages. > The two areas I can see myself working on over the coming weeks (or > months more likely) are documentation and testing. But these will be > topics for new threads. You can assign yourself whichever roles you wish. Before doing anything, let's just make sure we have first a definition of what we think needs to be done and a reasonable consensus. I'll discuss systems for evaluating consensus on the dynapi-admin list, so get yourself subscribed. I'm doing so now. > Let's hope we're able to breathe some life back into this project and > revive interest in it. To this end there are what appear at first to be a mind boggling array of features provided by SourceForge. For instance, there are ways to advertise seeking developers for the project, and so on. We can discuss this on the admin list perhaps. Leif |
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From: Andrew G. <an...@zo...> - 2005-04-01 21:36:05
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Leif W wrote: > I'm an admin now, so there's that. > > I have to go look through my list again, but Richard Bennet granted me > admin and requested removal from project, and Andrew you want admin, > so I'll do that as well, unless there are any objections. :p Well done. And thank you for fixing that PHP problem! It's useful to have access to all the old documentation again. Do you have any idea what the "Login" on the project home page does? This is not the SourceForge login, but is something specific to the dynapi page. I've tried creating several logins but the my passwords are never accepted. The two areas I can see myself working on over the coming weeks (or months more likely) are documentation and testing. But these will be topics for new threads. Let's hope we're able to breathe some life back into this project and revive interest in it. Andrew (my sourceforge Login Name is "agillett" and User ID is "134108") |
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From: Frank A. <fra...@th...> - 2005-04-01 21:02:04
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On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 15:11 -0500, Leif W wrote: > > "Frank Alcantara" <fra...@th...>; 2005-04-01@06:21 -0500 > > > > HI > > > > My name is frank alcantara, I am one developer of thyapi... a widget > > set > > using dynapi... I am here also, and I am very interested in this > > project. > > > > > > Frank Alcantara > > I'm an admin now, so there's that. > > I have to go look through my list again, but Richard Bennet granted me > admin and requested removal from project, and Andrew you want admin, so > I'll do that as well, unless there are any objections. :p > > Frank, can you provide a URL to thyapi website, demos, documentation? > Ahh, I see http://sourceforge.net/projects/thyapi/ but there are no > downloadable files. Would you or the other developers in your group be > interested in contributing code to the DynAPI project? Either in the > form of new widgets, bug fixes, patch testing, contributed code testing, > or extending compatibility with browsers (Linux/Konqueror, Mac, Windows > IE/Mozilla/Opera). > First of all, please forgive my English....:) We are trying to finish the Thyapi site this weekend... we have one old version in sf cvs... it is funcional, but it is old... about two months ago. We as got in surprise with Dynapi coming back to life...:) Congratulations.... We did fixed some small bugs in Dynapi, but we will not be able to send it to you until next Tuesday, sorry for this delay, but we are trying to finish one project this weekend. We already tested thyapi, in ie, firefox and safari it is running like a charm...:) Yeap, we will be proud to help DynApi, as far as possible, Unfortunately we did started ThyApi project and did some local marketing about it. And do not want to loose these efforts. Our main site is partially on air... http://www.thyamad.com there you will find more information about us... I am admin in other projects, and developer in some others. in one of then I just send one idea to keep descendant projects with the original one. I got this idea from Apache.org. The incubator. In few words.... We could create a branch in Dynapi cvs called incubator and create some rules to put the descendant projects there. So, for example, we could keep our thyapi project page in source forge, and keep it also in Dynapi incubator, The vantages are... The projects keep connect and we create a new barrier, even psychological, to fork, the projects will bring visibility for each other. And most of all the main project will keep receiving corrections and enhancements from the descendant projects. What do you think about it? of course it will need some well wrote guide lines...:) Besides your opinion we will send our corrections, As far I remember, all of then was about browser compatibility. Frank Alcantara > Leif > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-04-01 20:12:38
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> "Frank Alcantara" <fra...@th...>; 2005-04-01@06:21 -0500 > > HI > > My name is frank alcantara, I am one developer of thyapi... a widget > set > using dynapi... I am here also, and I am very interested in this > project. > > > Frank Alcantara I'm an admin now, so there's that. I have to go look through my list again, but Richard Bennet granted me admin and requested removal from project, and Andrew you want admin, so I'll do that as well, unless there are any objections. :p Frank, can you provide a URL to thyapi website, demos, documentation? Ahh, I see http://sourceforge.net/projects/thyapi/ but there are no downloadable files. Would you or the other developers in your group be interested in contributing code to the DynAPI project? Either in the form of new widgets, bug fixes, patch testing, contributed code testing, or extending compatibility with browsers (Linux/Konqueror, Mac, Windows IE/Mozilla/Opera). Leif |
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From: Benoit M. <mar...@ma...> - 2005-04-01 18:28:55
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I'm still interested too. Benoit On Friday, April 1, 2005, at 03:21 AM, Frank Alcantara wrote: > HI > > My name is frank alcantara, I am one developer of thyapi... a widget > set > using dynapi... I am here also, and I am very interested in this > project. > > > Frank Alcantara > On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 14:45 +1000, Andrew Gillett wrote: >> Leif W wrote: >>> Well, I guess the first order of business is to find someone (or >>> preferably 2-3 people) to become an active admins. If any admin are >>> out there and reading this list, just please make me an admin and >>> shoot a quick note to me. Over the years, I haven't contributed >>> much code, but have contributed chatter on the lists, and though >>> I've had the ability to really foul up the CVS (by ignorance or >>> malice), I am happy to say I haven't done so. >> Well Leif, so far there's you and there's me. I tried to email Dan >> Steinman but most of his addresses have bounced. I'll give it a little >> more time and if I don't hear anything then I'll email the remaining >> admins. >>> I think the second order of business would be to make a backup of >>> the site. I should probably be able to do some of this as a >>> developer, using scp (or pscp in windows). But we should have at >>> the least some sort of schedul to archive the site and the CVS tree. >>> If we go giving some new admins access, and something gets messed >>> up, it'll be nice to have a backup. I did take a CVS snapshot of >>> all modules some weeks ago. But all the revision stuff probably >>> needs archiving. All this admin crap that is common to any project >>> but little to do with the specifics of the project, I could try and >>> work on that while I get back into the code here. >> Backups are good. As far as CVS goes, it should be sufficient to tag >> the repository before doing anything. CVS tags are wonderful things >> but they haven't been used here - yet. >> >> One change to the site that I would like to see is a separation of >> dynapi3 related material from the earlier releases. But first the site >> needs some fixing. Currently there are a number of links under "Main >> Menu" on the LHS of the screen that point to >> http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/. These all produce the error: >> Fatal error: Cannot redeclare gettext() >> in /home/groups/d/dy/dynapi/htdocs/doccenter/lib/config.php on >> line 48 >> Now these are the links that used to point to the documentation >> (mostly for dynapi2 if I remember correctly). It would be good if they >> worked. >>> Hmm, third order of business is to make my living will, and among >>> other things, specify instructions to turn over the admin rights and >>> backups to the other admin in the event of an untimely demise or >>> even temporary injury or illness. ;-) >>> >>> Leif >> OK, just be sure to leave your money to me :-) >> >> >> Andrew >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by Demarc: > A global provider of Threat Management Solutions. > Download our HomeAdmin security software for free today! > http://www.demarc.com/info/Sentarus/hamr30 > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Dev mailing list > Dyn...@li... > http://www.mail-archive.com/dyn...@li.../ > > Benoit |
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