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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2005-05-28 02:36:02
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Just a quick note from one of the DynAPI admin. I have cleared out the SourceForge mail archives so no spam messages or blank messages display. I can't control mail archives at other sites (like mail-archive.com). There were 2067 messages and 43 valid ones in the archive (just over 4%). Furthermore, the list will only accept posts from subscribed members. All other posts will be held for approval. I get a daily notification by email and I do check pending requests about once a day. Remember, if you're going to post, please subscribe first. It's quick and easy. You can do it via the web at http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-chat/ or by email by sending a blank message to dyn...@li... with 'help' (without quotes) as the subject. If you don't want any messages, unsubscribe. You can likewise do this via the web (if you remember your password), or directly from the account by sending a blank email to dyn...@li... with 'unsubscribe' (without quotes) as the subject. You can also change various setting by web or email. Check the URL or the 'help' email from above. Leif warp9pnt9 |
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From: Bart B. <ba...@cs...> - 2003-04-09 22:35:07
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I would really like to use DYN API for my site but I have to say the documentation leaves a lot to be desired. I first downloaded Version 2.9 only to find that none of the examples on the tutorials (http://dynapi.sourceforge.net/doccenter/index.php?DynAPITutorials) actually worked. So I changed over to version 2.5.6 but I am not having much more luck with it. All I want to do is set the border of a DynLayer to be one pixel wide and blue. I figured that the css property might be the answer but I can't seem to gain any access to it. The property is always set to null. Below is the code I am trying to use. Can any one tell me what on earth is wrong with it please. The Variable anImage is of a custom type I have created but that works fine as I have used it for ages. The alert give the value null, not undefined but null. Thanks, Bart. ___________________ ////////////////////////////// // Creating an image viewer // ////////////////////////////// function BBImageGalViewer(x, y, w, h, anIamge){ //initialising class variables this.dynlayer = DynLayer; this.dynlayer("test", x, y, w, h, "#ffffee"); this.image = anIamge; //a layer for the content this.theHTML = ""; this.theHTML += "<p align=\"center\"><img src=\"" + this.image.url + "\" alt=\"Testing\" /></p>"; this.theHTML += "<p align=\"center\">" + this.image.caption + "</p>"; this.setHTML(this.theHTML); //this.setBorder(1, "#8080ff"); alert(this.css); return this; } BBImageGalViewer.prototype=new DynLayer(); _________________________________ Mr. Bart Busschots, BSc, AMInstP, Department of Computer Science, NUI Maynooth. Web: www.cs.may.ie/~bart E-mail: ba...@cs... |
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2002-12-22 15:23:34
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Below is a simplified version of the relevent bits of my code which
demonstrates the problem more clearly.
Here's a summarization of the code:
* Pile and Deck object definitions. Deck inherits from Pile, and extends
with Populate method.
* onLoad, a function initializes some variables whose values are form
elements.
* click the init button, initialize two decks (deck1 and deck2).
* click the populate button, populate deck1 only.
* click the display button, shows deck1 and deck2 have been populated.
Things to note:
* the Name property of Pile is correctly holding two different values for
each instance of Deck.
* the Cards array property is incorrectly holding a reference to the same
array.
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Uno Card Game Prototype</TITLE>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--
Pile = function ( )
{
this.Name = '';
this.Cards = new Array( );
this.displayObj = new Object( );
};
Pile.prototype.init = function ( name , displayObj )
{
this.setName( name );
this.setDisplayObj( displayObj );
};
Pile.prototype.setName = function ( name )
{
this.Name = name;
};
Pile.prototype.getName = function ( )
{
return( this.Name );
};
Pile.prototype.setDisplayObj = function ( displayObj )
{
this.displayObj = displayObj;
};
Pile.prototype.getDisplayObj = function ( )
{
return( this.displayObj );
};
Pile.prototype.getNumCards = function ( )
{
return( this.Cards.length );
};
Pile.prototype.Display = function ( )
{
var numCards = this.getNumCards( );
var msg = 'Deck: ' + this.getName( ) + '(' + numCards + ' cards)\n';
for ( var i = 0 ; i < numCards ; i++ )
{
msg += i + ': ' + this.Cards[i] + '\n';
}
this.getDisplayObj( ).value = msg;
};
Deck = new Function( );
Deck.prototype = new Pile( );
Deck.prototype.Populate = function ( )
{
var colors = new Array( 'red' , 'orn' , 'ylw' , 'grn' , 'blu' , 'vlt' );
for ( var i = 0 ; i < colors.length ; i++ )
{
this.Cards[i] = colors[i];
}
};
var deck1 = new Object( );
var deck2 = new Object( );
var deck1LogObj = new Object( );
var deck2LogObj = new Object( );
var activityLogObj = new Object( );
var initFlag = false;
function test_global_init ( )
{
deck1 = new Object( );
deck2 = new Object( );
deck1LogObj = document.forms[ 'table' ].deck1_log;
deck2LogObj = document.forms[ 'table' ].deck2_log;
activityLogObj = document.forms[ 'table' ].activity_log;
};
function test_deck_init ( )
{
if ( initFlag == false )
{
deck1 = new Deck( );
deck2 = new Deck( );
deck1.init( 'Deck One' , deck1LogObj );
deck2.init( 'Deck Two' , deck2LogObj );
activityLogObj.value = 'deck1 (' + deck1.getName( ) + ') and ' +
'deck2 (' + deck2.getName( ) + ')
initialized.\n';
initFlag = true;
}
else
{
activityLogObj.value += 'Decks already initialized.\n';
}
};
function test_deck_populate ( )
{
deck1.Populate( );
activityLogObj.value += deck1.getName( ) + ' populated.\n';
};
function test_deck_display ( )
{
deck1.Display( );
deck2.Display( );
activityLogObj.value += 'Decks displayed.\n';
};
function test_deck_clear ( )
{
deck1LogObj.value = '';
deck2LogObj.value = '';
activityLogObj.value = '';
};
//-->
</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#000000" TEXT="#FFFFFF" LINK="#00FF00" ALINK="#FF0000"
VLINK="#990000" TOPMARGIN="5" BOTTOMMARGIN="5" LEFTMARGIN="5"
RIGHTMARGIN="5" MARGINHEIGHT="5" MARGINWIDTH="5"
onLoad="test_global_init( );">
<FORM NAME="table" METHOD="post" ACTION="" onSubmit="return( false );">
<TABLE BGCOLOR="#FF00FF" BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="2">
<TR>
<TD>
<TABLE BGCOLOR="#000000" BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0" CELLSPACING="5">
<TR>
<TD><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Verdana, Arial">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="deck_init_test" VALUE="init"
onClick="test_deck_init( );">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="deck_populate_test"
VALUE="populate" onClick="test_deck_populate( );">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="deck_display_test" VALUE="display"
onClick="test_deck_display( );">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="deck_clear_test" VALUE="clear"
onClick="test_deck_clear( );">
<BR>
<TEXTAREA NAME="deck1_log" COLS="20" ROWS="10"
TYPE="virtual"></TEXTAREA>
<TEXTAREA NAME="deck2_log" COLS="20" ROWS="10"
TYPE="virtual"></TEXTAREA>
<BR>
<TEXTAREA NAME="activity_log" COLS="40" ROWS="10"
TYPE="virtual"></TEXTAREA>
</FONT></TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
</FORM>
</BODY>
</HTML>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leif W" <war...@us...>
To: <dyn...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:20 AM
Subject: [Dynapi-Chat] JavaScript secondary inheritance bug.
> Hello,
>
> I'm working with some JavaScript to create a card game, and have come
across
> the secondary inheritance bug (using IE 6.0.2800.1106 (SP1)), and was
> wondering if
> someone could explain the fix for the similar problem that was found in
the
> dynapi.
> Ideally an explanation or example of a generalized solution or workaround
> for this
> problem would be most helpful (as opposed to a DynAPI-centric solution).
>
> The scenario in my code, I have a Pile object, and a Deck object, and two
> instances of the Deck object. I have a Deck.Populate method which fills
the
> deck with cards. This method is called once from one instance, but both
> decks become populated. The Decks have a Name property which seems to be
> ok,
> but the methods apparently aren't inherited properly.
>
> My card game is in prototyping now, so that I can get the core game
working
> and modularized (for different card games), but I plan to make a DynAPI
> version, along with Java Applet, Flash, and PHP versions (from text-only
> standalone up to full GUI and client/server multiplayer). This isn't part
> of any corporate venture, it's solely for the purpose of self-education
and
> exercise.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerly,
>
> Leif W
> warp-9.9
>
>
>
>
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From: Leif W <war...@us...> - 2002-12-22 14:15:51
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Hello, I'm working with some JavaScript to create a card game, and have come across the secondary inheritance bug (using IE 6.0.2800.1106 (SP1)), and was wondering if someone could explain the fix for the similar problem that was found in the dynapi. Ideally an explanation or example of a generalized solution or workaround for this problem would be most helpful (as opposed to a DynAPI-centric solution). The scenario in my code, I have a Pile object, and a Deck object, and two instances of the Deck object. I have a Deck.Populate method which fills the deck with cards. This method is called once from one instance, but both decks become populated. The Decks have a Name property which seems to be ok, but the methods apparently aren't inherited properly. My card game is in prototyping now, so that I can get the core game working and modularized (for different card games), but I plan to make a DynAPI version, along with Java Applet, Flash, and PHP versions (from text-only standalone up to full GUI and client/server multiplayer). This isn't part of any corporate venture, it's solely for the purpose of self-education and exercise. Any help would be appreciated. Sincerly, Leif W warp-9.9 |
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From: Scott A. L. <sco...@sc...> - 2002-10-18 17:15:22
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Interesting that this works in IE5 but not IE6. You might want to try
experimenting with different types of DOCTYPE declarations in the page. I
can't remember the details, but IE6 formats the page differently based on
the DOCTYPE, including the way it handles CSS.
-- Scott
--------- Original Message --------
From: David Scanlan <dsc...@ca...>
To: dyn...@li... <dyn...@li...>
Subject: [Dynapi-Chat] IE6 linked stylesheet problem
Date: 10/18/02 09:23
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> I have written an application using DynAPI (2.56) which I need to support
> in both NS4 & IE5+ environments.
> As a part of this, I make extensive use of linked stylesheets to try
> to get some consistency in the way it all looks.
> This works fine in NS4 & IE5 environments, but I just found out
> that it does not work in IE6. I've put the SP1 patch on and it is still
> failing...
> When using a non-linked (inline) StyleSheet, everything is OK. I really
> don't want to use any inline code if possible due to architectural limits
> on field sizes in Domino V4.
> Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour before? Are there any known
> work arounds?
> The following code snippet works for CLASS=Data tags.
> <HTML>
> <!-- Lotus-Domino (Release 4.6.1d (Intl) -
> 27 May 1998 on Windows NT/Intel) -->
> <HEAD>
> <TITLE>New absence request</TITLE>
> <link rel=stylesheet type="text/css"
href="/NewTimeTrack.nsf/JS/TRStd.CSS/$FILE/TRStd.css">
> <style>
> .Data {font-size: 9pt; background: Gray; white-space:
> nowrap; color:pink}
> </style>
> If I move the .Data style into the linked stylesheet, it all fails.
> All the data on the page gets loaded up via JS into DynLayers using
> setHTML.
> What am I missing?
> Many thanks for any assistance...
> David Scanlan
> European Network Analyst
> Cadence Design Systems Ltd
>
>
>
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From: David S. <dsc...@ca...> - 2002-10-18 16:22:21
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<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hi all,
<p>I have written an application using DynAPI (2.56) which I need to support
in both NS4 & IE5+ environments.
<p>As a part of this, I make extensive use of linked stylesheets to try
to get some consistency in the way it all looks.
<p>This works fine in NS4 & IE5 environments, but I just found out
that it does not work in IE6. I've put the SP1 patch on and it is still
failing...
<p>When using a non-linked (inline) StyleSheet, everything is OK. I really
don't want to use any inline code if possible due to architectural limits
on field sizes in Domino V4.
<p>Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour before? Are there any known
work arounds?
<p>The following code snippet works for CLASS=Data tags.
<p><font color="#000099"><HTML></font>
<br><font color="#000099"><!-- Lotus-Domino (Release 4.6.1d (Intl) -
27 May 1998 on Windows NT/Intel) --></font>
<br><font color="#000099"><HEAD></font>
<br><font color="#000099"><TITLE>New absence request</TITLE></font>
<br><font color="#000099"><link rel=stylesheet type="text/css" href="/NewTimeTrack.nsf/JS/TRStd.CSS/$FILE/TRStd.css"></font>
<br><font color="#000099"><style></font>
<br><font color="#000099">.Data {font-size: 9pt; background: Gray; white-space:
nowrap; color:pink}</font>
<br><font color="#000099"></style></font>
<p>If I move the .Data style into the linked stylesheet, it all fails.
<p>All the data on the page gets loaded up via JS into DynLayers using
setHTML.
<p>What am I missing?
<p>Many thanks for any assistance...
<p>David Scanlan
<br>European Network Analyst
<br>Cadence Design Systems Ltd</html>
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From: Eytan H. <ey...@tr...> - 2002-04-25 06:50:09
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My understanding is actually that you can modify, change, include the library in any which way you like as long as you: a. Provide the original liscense b. Provide an original DynAPI release or a link to get it |
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From: Brian M. <bm...@ho...> - 2002-04-24 22:10:49
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Is it possible, under the terms of the LGPL, to write commercial/MPL'd Delphi components that use the DynAPI library for web page generation? Would the resulting applications be commercially viable? From my understanding, it is ok, provided that the distribution of DynAPI is preserved in a file-based format and merely used by the exe - used at runtime. If the javascript files are compiled into the exe as a resource, is that ok? What about if the resource is an external resource file that is read in at runtime? Thanks, Brian Moelk _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx |
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From: Alexander L. <la...@ac...> - 2002-01-08 02:47:37
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I have Win98SE, IE 5.0 Try to press BACKSPACE in the editlabel control and your browser will go = back=20 thru the history. Best wishes, Alexander Litvinov. On Monday 07 January 2002 23:11, Raymond Irving wrote: > Hello, > > This control is looking very good! I really love the > editlabel widget. It's the perfect replacment for the > textbox form element. > > It would be nice if you could get it to work with out > requiring the label control. And even allow a user to > enter multiple lines of text. > > If the above can work then it's possible to create a > rich text editlabel field for DynAPI! > > All the best |
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From: Raymond I. <xw...@ya...> - 2002-01-07 17:11:34
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Hello, This control is looking very good! I really love the editlabel widget. It's the perfect replacment for the textbox form element. It would be nice if you could get it to work with out requiring the label control. And even allow a user to enter multiple lines of text. If the above can work then it's possible to create a rich text editlabel field for DynAPI! All the best -- Raymond Irving Wisdom is > Weapons of War --- Matthew Bull <ma...@en...> wrote: > Hi all, > > sorry to cross post this but I wanted everybody to > get it..... > > just a quick post to let you all know I've posted a > grid control to our > servers at.... > http://lib.quantigma.net/dynapi/examples/enigma.gui.grid.html > this is very early pre alpha code to get some feed > back so not to many > flames about my coding style please, all critism, > hints, advice or bugs > gratefully received etc etc. > > lots of things on the to do list including sort > direction indicators on the > header buttons, by the way the middle column is > editable.... not to sure > about the editlabel control yet though so it may > change in the future, but > it gets over the constant problems with windowed > controls. > > Matt > > ma...@qu... > > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Help mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-help __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ |
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From: Matthew B. <ma...@en...> - 2002-01-07 11:35:02
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Hi all, sorry to cross post this but I wanted everybody to get it..... just a quick post to let you all know I've posted a grid control to our servers at.... http://lib.quantigma.net/dynapi/examples/enigma.gui.grid.html this is very early pre alpha code to get some feed back so not to many flames about my coding style please, all critism, hints, advice or bugs gratefully received etc etc. lots of things on the to do list including sort direction indicators on the header buttons, by the way the middle column is editable.... not to sure about the editlabel control yet though so it may change in the future, but it gets over the constant problems with windowed controls. Matt ma...@qu... |
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From: Volker R. <Vol...@bi...> - 2002-01-04 12:09:41
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Hi, a friend is co-authoring a book on IT-Projects and how to handle them. The book will be published in March (German only) and one small part is about interactivity. as an example for complex javascript development he is mentioning "the use of libraries, such as the DYNAPI". included is a link on the sourceforge dynapi site.... but this is of course still secret! Happy new year! Volker P.S.: I have added tests on the last stable release with mac os x and different browsers at the matrix located at robelix site.... |
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From: Raymond S. <dst...@or...> - 2002-01-04 03:14:28
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<html> <br> Related to SVG, and its quest for world domination.<br><br> <emote> sets a hand-painted blue "rock" next to his keyboard. I'm feeling poetic today.<br><br> It seems that every year or so a debate framed by the powers of SVG wanders into our digital mists and creates a crescendo of "awe and quiet whispers" as to the frail underpinnings of DHTML as an Interface Design Model (hereafter referred to as IDM).<br><br> Now, I personally don't have any issues with SVG's, in fact if we had a better grasp of Einstein's time-space continuum we would all like to "rewind" and integrate SVG into the very fabric of the browser itself. But, herein lies the problem.<br><br> We can't rewind and integrate, and the politics of business have created sufficient barriers to sentence SVG's to a prison built of Plug-In Software Structure (hereafter referred to as PISS).<br><br> See, it's not the SVG that's the problem, it's the vehicle it travels in. No right minded developer would use PISS as a IDM because PISS belongs in very specific containers that are "sub" to the IDM of the page as a whole.<br><br> Translated, this means that a page must be constructed with an open architecture that allows the broadest array of insert able features (XHTML, XML, PISS). <br><br> This is becoming even more important with the explosive growth of pop-up, pop-back, pop-in-your-face advertising that has given birth to a slew of new software products called Pop-Up Killer and Panicware's Pop-Up Stopper. In the future pages will need to be self-contained "events" that self integrate the broadest array of feature sets. So, you see... PISS fits, but in a defined "bucket" within the whole of the IDM.<br><br> Now on to the Illusion of Penetration that marketing done well creates. Macromedia cites 98.3% browser penetration with Flash. The following is from Macromedia's site based on a December 2001 market study (this was hidden well and deep for a reason).<br><br> <u>Flash Version<x-tab> </x-tab> 2<x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab> 3<x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab> 4<x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab> 5 <font color="#FFFFFF"><b>a</u>sh 5</b></font> <br> US <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>98.3% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>97.8% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>95.1% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>86.2% <br> Canada <x-tab> </x-tab>98.6% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>98.4% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>97.1% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>88.7% <br> Europe <x-tab> </x-tab>97.1% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>96.7% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>94.6% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>88.2% <br> Asia <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>97.6% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>95.4% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>93.4% <x-tab> </x-tab><x-tab> </x-tab>86.5%<br><br> Try doing Flash to today's standards in Flash version 2 or try selling a client on IE5+ only with it's 86%+ penetration. Won't happen. How has Macromedia so effectively pulled the wool over every ones eyes? You can't even find statistics on Adobes open-source efforts, though I know they exist. Things lie under rugs for reasons.<br><br> So, ...<br><br> At the end of the day let me use my DHTML IDM to paint the most effective and broadest message using a completely open ended architecture. This allows me to use PISS when I need too and PISS can include Flash, Shockwave, 3D Animators, Quicktime, Realplayer, etc... Try dropping "any" of the latter plug-ins into the first (FLASH) and I think you will have answered the question for yourself.<br><br> You can't...<br><br> Raymond<br><br> As a note, I have the newest Adobe Reader 5 (software package, including distiller) and I had to download the Adobe SVG player when I went to peruse these predicted gems of global interactive domination.</html> |
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From: John S. <joh...@se...> - 2002-01-03 20:07:23
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WOOHOO!
Thanks Richard!
On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 11:44, Richard Bennett wrote:
Acrobat Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!
Flash Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!
DHTML: available for Linux -yeah!
SVG Plug-in: not available for Linux -bummer...
-john <><
You'll find a beta version of the plugin for Linux here:
http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/old.html
Cheers,
Richard.
John Sturgeon <><
Systems Architect
SenaReider Inc.
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From: Richard B. <ric...@sk...> - 2002-01-03 19:47:53
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Acrobat Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!=20 Flash Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!=20 DHTML: available for Linux -yeah!=20 SVG Plug-in: not available for Linux -bummer...=20 -john <><=20 You'll find a beta version of the plugin for Linux here: http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/old.html Cheers, Richard. |
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From: Richard B. <ric...@sk...> - 2002-01-03 19:24:18
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Hi, > >>From this work I think SVG will not replace DHTML anytime soon, in fact, I > > think it will stimulate libraries like DynAPI, because it is a very powerful > > tool, as a drawing board, but lacks many things we take for granted in > > DHTML, and some elements are not up to scratch, performance-wise (SMIL > > animation for instance). > > > I think that's an interesting argument. What exactly does SVG (the > spec, not the Adobe implementation) lack that we take for granted in DHTML? * For one thing it has no form elements (which is why Kevin started that project) * it has no element like the <div> and also no overflow property with scrollbars etc. * It has no text-wrapping, or browser-chosen variable font-sizes. * It has no relative positioning, each line of text, and each object must be absolutely positioned. * It has no built-in scrollbars, if the browser-window is too small, you don't get scrollbars, without hand-coding them, or other trickery. * You cannot - for instance - show some source-code inside <pre> tags. there are lots of things like that, and similary, SVG has lot's of advantages over DHTML, or VML or Flash. The best thing seems to be to combine the technologies, as needed, and there libraries like DynAPI can be very useful. Cheers, Richard. > scott andrew lepera |
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From: John S. <joh...@se...> - 2002-01-03 19:12:27
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Acrobat Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!
Flash Plug-in: available for Linux -yeah!
DHTML: available for Linux -yeah!
SVG Plug-in: not available for Linux -bummer...
-john <><
On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 10:38, Scott Andrew LePera wrote:
Richard Bennett wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm helping Kevin with his SVgUI form replacement widgets, using
> custom-namespaces inside SVG files, and it has been setup as a SF project,
> although no files have been released yet.
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/svgui/
Cool. Will you drop the list a note when it's released?
> I don't think the plugin is a problem actually, PDF took off, even though it
> needs a plugin, and the SVG plugin is distributed with the PDF plugin, and
> with Real-player (amongst many other products).
I don't consider the Acrobat reader to be a "plug-in" in a true sense --
you need to download the reader to view PDF files, regardless of whether
it's from a browser or your desktop. But I agree that the seamless
integration with other clients helped increase Acrobat's (and therefore
PDF's) popularity.
There's a lot to be said for zero-install. The main reason why Flash is
so widespread is because the plug-in is bundled with nearly every new
browser. I wonder how successful it would be today if that were not the
case.
>>From this work I think SVG will not replace DHTML anytime soon, in fact, I
> think it will stimulate libraries like DynAPI, because it is a very powerful
> tool, as a drawing board, but lacks many things we take for granted in
> DHTML, and some elements are not up to scratch, performance-wise (SMIL
> animation for instance).
I think that's an interesting argument. What exactly does SVG (the
spec, not the Adobe implementation) lack that we take for granted in DHTML?
--
scott andrew lepera
sc...@sc...
web stuff: www.scottandrew.com
music stuff: www.walkingbirds.com
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Dynapi-Chat mailing list
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https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-chat
John Sturgeon <><
Systems Architect
SenaReider Inc.
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From: Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...> - 2002-01-03 18:39:44
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Richard Bennett wrote: > Hi, > I'm helping Kevin with his SVgUI form replacement widgets, using > custom-namespaces inside SVG files, and it has been setup as a SF project, > although no files have been released yet. > https://sourceforge.net/projects/svgui/ Cool. Will you drop the list a note when it's released? > I don't think the plugin is a problem actually, PDF took off, even though it > needs a plugin, and the SVG plugin is distributed with the PDF plugin, and > with Real-player (amongst many other products). I don't consider the Acrobat reader to be a "plug-in" in a true sense -- you need to download the reader to view PDF files, regardless of whether it's from a browser or your desktop. But I agree that the seamless integration with other clients helped increase Acrobat's (and therefore PDF's) popularity. There's a lot to be said for zero-install. The main reason why Flash is so widespread is because the plug-in is bundled with nearly every new browser. I wonder how successful it would be today if that were not the case. >>From this work I think SVG will not replace DHTML anytime soon, in fact, I > think it will stimulate libraries like DynAPI, because it is a very powerful > tool, as a drawing board, but lacks many things we take for granted in > DHTML, and some elements are not up to scratch, performance-wise (SMIL > animation for instance). I think that's an interesting argument. What exactly does SVG (the spec, not the Adobe implementation) lack that we take for granted in DHTML? -- scott andrew lepera sc...@sc... web stuff: www.scottandrew.com music stuff: www.walkingbirds.com |
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From: Richard B. <ric...@sk...> - 2002-01-03 08:53:54
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Hi, I'm helping Kevin with his SVgUI form replacement widgets, using custom-namespaces inside SVG files, and it has been setup as a SF project, although no files have been released yet. https://sourceforge.net/projects/svgui/ I don't think the plugin is a problem actually, PDF took off, even though it needs a plugin, and the SVG plugin is distributed with the PDF plugin, and with Real-player (amongst many other products) . I am also using SVG in a commercial project , that plots GPS data over a map in (buffered) real-time, online. From this work I think SVG will not replace DHTML anytime soon, in fact, I think it will stimulate libraries like DynAPI, because it is a very powerful tool, as a drawing board, but lacks many things we take for granted in DHTML, and some elements are not up to scratch, performance-wise (SMIL animation for instance). I find it works best when combined with DynAPI-style DHTML elements. Another tool in the toolbox, alongside DHTML, Flash, XML etc etc. Cheers, Richard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Andrew LePera" <sc...@sc...> To: <dyn...@li...> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: [Dynapi-Chat] DHTML? SVG! > DynAPI Folk, > > Happy new year to all. > > I found this very interesting. Its a collection of DynAPI-like GUI > widgets, except all done with SVG instead of layers/DIVs. It looks like > it uses a JavaScript API to manipulate the DOM of an embedded SVG object. > > http://www.kevlindev.com/gui/ > > You'll need the Adobe SVG Viewer plug-in to play with it. I > particularly like the *diagonal* slider bars: > > http://www.kevlindev.com/gui/slider/index.htm#Anchor-Example-23522 > > It's my opinion that this kind of stuff won't take off until the > majority of browsers in use support SVG natively without a plug-in. If > that ever happens, the days of DHTML widgetry may be over. > > -- scottandrew > > -- > scott andrew lepera > sc...@sc... > web stuff: www.scottandrew.com > music stuff: www.walkingbirds.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Dynapi-Chat mailing list > Dyn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-chat > |
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From: Scott A. L. <sc...@sc...> - 2002-01-03 00:11:28
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DynAPI Folk, Happy new year to all. I found this very interesting. Its a collection of DynAPI-like GUI widgets, except all done with SVG instead of layers/DIVs. It looks like it uses a JavaScript API to manipulate the DOM of an embedded SVG object. http://www.kevlindev.com/gui/ You'll need the Adobe SVG Viewer plug-in to play with it. I particularly like the *diagonal* slider bars: http://www.kevlindev.com/gui/slider/index.htm#Anchor-Example-23522 It's my opinion that this kind of stuff won't take off until the majority of browsers in use support SVG natively without a plug-in. If that ever happens, the days of DHTML widgetry may be over. -- scottandrew -- scott andrew lepera sc...@sc... web stuff: www.scottandrew.com music stuff: www.walkingbirds.com |
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From: brian <br...@ac...> - 2001-12-18 19:07:42
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I need help with cross browser problems with my church website. I = created a new menu system using Dynapi objects and it works fine with = Microsoft Explorer but doesn't work with any version of Netscape or AOL = that I have been able to try. My demo site is http://sunriseumc.com/demo = (note the links don't actually work on the demo). =20 I would appreciate any ideas as to where my problem is and how to fix = it. Or is there a better way to create dynamic menus? A sample of the dynamically created code (from an ASP database query) = used to generate the menu is as follows: <script language=3D"Javascript" src=3D"dynapi.js"></script> <script language=3D"Javascript"> DynAPI.setLibraryPath('/lib/'); DynAPI.include('dynapi.api.*'); DynAPI.include('dynapi.api.browser.js') DynAPI.include('dynapi.api.dynlayer.js') DynAPI.include('dynapi.api.dyndocument.js') DynAPI.include('dynapi.event.*') DynAPI.onLoad =3D function() { menu0 =3D new DynLayer(null, 5 ,100 ,75 ,0, ''); menu0.setVisible(true) DynAPI.document.addChild(menu0) menu0_0 =3D new DynLayer(null,0, 0, 75, 25,''); menu0_0.setHTML('<table CLASS=3D"menuStyle" WIDTH=3D"75" = CELLSPACING=3D1 BORDER=3D0><TR><TD = ALIGN=3D"right"><B>Home</B></TD></TR></TABLE>') menuListener0 =3D new EventListener(menu0_0) menuListener0.onmouseover=3Dfunction(e){target=3De.getTarget();target.set= BgColor('FFFF66'); displaySubMenu(0,1)} menuListener0.onmouseout=3Dfunction(e){target=3De.getTarget();target.setB= gColor('');} menu0_0.addEventListener(menuListener0) menu1 =3D new DynLayer(null,80, 100, 75,0, ''); menu1.setVisible(false) DynAPI.document.addChild(menu1) menu0_0.setVisible(true) menu0.addChild(menu0_0) menu1_0 =3D new DynLayer(null,0, 0, 75, 25,''); menu1_0.setHTML('<FORM NAME=3D"menuForm1_0" action=3D"default.asp" = method=3D"POST"><input type=3Dhidden name=3D"goToPage" = value=3D"public/t_about.asp"><table CLASS=3D"menuStyle" WIDTH=3D"75" = CELLSPACING=3D1 BORDER=3D0><TR><TD ALIGN=3D"right"><A = HREF=3D"javascript:document.menuForm1_.submit();"><B>About = Us</B></A></TD></TR></TABLE></FORM>') menuListener1 =3D new EventListener(menu1_0) menuListener1.onmouseover=3Dfunction(e){target=3De.getTarget();target.set= BgColor('FFFF66'); displaySubMenu(1,1)} menuListener1.onmouseout=3Dfunction(e){target=3De.getTarget();target.setB= gColor('');} menu1_0.addEventListener(menuListener1) menu1_0.setVisible(true) menu1.addChild(menu1_0) ... 9 menus are dynamically created ... menu0.setHeight(250) menu1.setHeight(50) menu2.setHeight(75) menu3.setHeight(50) menu4.setHeight(100) menu5.setHeight(50) menu6.setHeight(75) menu7.setHeight(25) menu8.setHeight(25) } =20 function displaySubMenu(menuCounter,nextMenuCounter) { if (menuCounter =3D=3D 0) { menuCounter =3D 1} for (i=3D menuCounter; i <=3D 8 ; i++) { =20 eval("menu" + i + ".setVisible(false)") } eval("menu" + nextMenuCounter + ".setVisible(true)") } </script> Thanks, Brian Webmaster for Sunrise United Methodist Church |
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From: Volker R. <Vol...@bi...> - 2001-12-08 20:31:54
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Hi List, another point i have spent thinking some time on is aching me now to be published (especially after the comments by Doug <- nothing personal!): i playing around with the dynapi since i found the dynapi v1 by stan last year. i build a site on bats and their conservation (www.flaus-online.de) using some dynapi 1 code. i have also used dynapi 2 (2.5X and < 2.5) for some dhtml games at the kids section of flaus-online.de and my personal site (www.web-dizain.de - dhtml section). My point in the discussion of licensing and commercal widgets is: if one uses the dynapi for private use, it is free, as asked in the GPL license. if someone like dan is developping widgets, spending hours and days, and somen else is using them within the dynapi for a comemrcial product, why is he allowed to use them all for free? the later is earning real money (in my case about 50$ an hour). so all the widget developpers are the fools. why bother, charge the customer another 30$, cause we are talking about real projects, worth 1000 to 3000 $. Anyhow, my second intention was to talk about the problems Doug had with not tested dynapi. Only one thing - who is not testing his site offline before putting his files online? sorry, bugs are normal, there was never a dynapi version without them because they live in the code an dtry to hide from tests and pop up when you do not expect them (that is my view as a biologist). i will be the first paying money for using widgets derived by hard work from the standard examples! To Dan: Please find a way for paing easily. think about people from europe maybe even without credit cards! So, I did not want to stirr everything up again, but as an user interested in further developments of the dynapi i thought i have to say this! And now get Apple for sponsoring (<- related to my former thread) volker |
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From: Volker R. <Vol...@bi...> - 2001-12-08 20:21:55
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Hi, the page is only accessible with an iTools account. Within the iTools there is a section for publishing your homepage. What they actually use is a viewport kind of widget listing all your published pages. i could not find any reference to what version of dynapi they are using etc. anyhow, most of the dynapi code works well with an mac. i only found out that some methods are not implemented correctly in the ie 5.1.3 for mac os x. self.print is one javascript command that is not working. having no time at the moment for lot of testing i am waiting for robelix compatibility utility, then i will contribute my test results. if you want to see the example you will need to setup iTools, that is at the moment only possible with apple hardware :-( But I think Dan posted his Mac availability, so maybe he can take a look... cheers, volker |
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