Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD

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The Windows 7/8 security "hoops" that are needed still apply for the 64 bit
installation kit and are described in gory detail in the link below.

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/11289-dave-s-quick-search-installed-w7-7
100-64-bit.html#post119008

Still looking at it with the most visible errors being no menu popup or
calendar popup as mentioned below.

What is interesting is that if I open the SEARCH.HTM manually in the IE
browser (skip through the initialization errors) the Calendar popup will
function.  The options menu will not.

Is there any documentation on what functions the DLL is performing.  If the
functions are hardcoded in the DLL it is a different type of problem to fix.
8-)

Happy Turkey Day!

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn K. Hall [mailto:sh...@re...] 
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 4:43 AM
To: 'DQSD users mailing list'; 'DQSD development discussions'
Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD

I was able to get the style loader to work again by granting 'users'
'full control' of the Quick Search Deskbar folder security rights. The menu
itself still doesn't appear, but at least it does do something.
This will really help re-styling it.

jsx showpop();

-Shawn

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn K. Hall [mailto:sh...@re...]
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:32 AM
> To: 'DQSD users mailing list'; 'DQSD development discussions'
> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 
> I never update IE when a major version is released until they resolve 
> (or workaround) the horror stories that follow.
> However, I've got bunches of friends and clients that do it anyway. 
> And they all lost DQSD this month.
>  
> Personally, I still live in DQSD 24/7. I've started using RoboForm, 
> Notepad++ and CintaNotes to better complement my routine - but i just 
> haven't found anything that works as well as DQSD for quick searches 
> and certain commands (like quicksort, posting the contents of the 
> clipboard to a webpage, guidgen and a couple others). Sure, it has a 
> few bugs in Win7x64, but it's still the most capable system of its 
> kind out there. Some of this I could automate through
> Notepad++ or RoboForm, but I'll never get the ease of
> operation that I have now with DQSD.
>  
> With IE11 - the style isn't pretty, but with the UA-Compat line 
> (Thanks, Brent!) and some significant edits I'm able to get it closer 
> to how it was. A long way to go.
>  
> For debugging, use this in DQSD:
>  
> vbsx :document.body.outerHTML
>  
> That'll copy the currently rendered HTML for you so you can find 
> anything that might be broken.
>  
>  
> More issues and a couple fixes:
>  
> * The focus hotkey doesn't work reliably. 
>  
> To fix: enable the option to "allow active content to run in files on 
> my computer" in the IE "advanced" options.
>  
> * Popup menu isn't available.
>  
> jsx showpop();
>  
> * Popup calendar doesn't load.
> * Sometimes 2 windows will appear when searching
> * Popup help doesn't load correctly
>  
> No fix.
>  
> -Shawn
>  
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 	From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@ch...] 
> 	Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:09 AM
> 	To: 'DQSD users mailing list'; 'DQSD development discussions'
> 	Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 	
> 	
> 
> 	I added Brents version/content to all the DQSD HTML files as well.
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Everything seems to function correctly.  Well done!  
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	The text area layout is defined by the Themes.css.  
> There is a small font and large font version as well as a 4:3 and 
> widescreen version developed by Matt and others a while back.
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	DQSD woth HTML Version.jpg
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	The Calendar hotspot and the Title are missing/out of 
> view.   Still looking at it......
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Jim
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	P.S. MLL are you using the 64-bit installation?
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	From: MLL [mailto:we...@gm...] 
> 	Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 4:22 AM
> 	To: DQSD development discussions; DQSD users mailing list
> 	Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 
> 	 
> 
> 	Good hit Brent, I get improvement !
> 	
> 	Gets much better : no more script errors, no more debug text 
> surrounding the textarea. Yet, the textarea does not fit the DQSD area 
> :
> 	
> 	or worse, on my laptop its so small (vertically) you can barely
click 
> in it :
> 	
> 	
> 	(Both in Win 7 + IE11, with Brent's fix)
> 	
> 	Kind regards,
> 	
> 	MLL
> 
> 	Le 16/11/2013 07:02, Brent Beardsley a écrit :
> 
> 		I don't use DQSD anymore either but was wondering if
putting:
> 		
> 		<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7">
> 		
> 		in the <head> section in search.htm would fix it?
> 		
> 		Brent
> 
> 		 
> 
> 		 
> 
> 		
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> 		From: James Nix <ni...@ch...>
<mailto:ni...@ch...>
> 		To: 'DQSD users mailing list' 
> <dqs...@li...>
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> 		Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:41 PM
> 		Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 
> 		
> 		Well the 64-bit Windows 7 version has been working well for
IE9 & 
> 10 for
> 		some time .  The install only takes about 5 minutes of minor

> hoop-jumping to
> 		overcome Windows 7 security settings.
> 		
> 		I just installed IE11 and..... sure enough Javascript
errors.  The 
> "empty"
> 		error in the Clocks.js script can be commented out to allow
further 
> testing
> 		(otherwise you get an error every clock refresh!).  Just
search for 
> "empty"
> 		in the Clocks.js file.
> 		
> 		Once that is commented out the DQSD taskbar window becomes a
> 		vertical/horizontal scroll window -  sort of amusing.  Then
the 
> taskbar can
> 		be stretched vertically for access.
> 		
> 		Once that is done, the aliases will work.  But if a "test"
or 
> "newegg.com"
> 		or "some random search text" is entered then a "nodeValue"
error is
> 		generated in Defer_tools.js.
> 		
> 		I don't know Java so I have no idea why IE11 fails when IE10
works 
> fine.  Is
> 		this some deprecated feature problem?  Is IE11 trying for
force use 
> of
> 		"newer" Java syntax?  Anyway to force it NOT to do that?
> 		
> 		Luv my DQSD....  I have not seen any IE11 "New" 
> features/performance
> 		improvements I can't live without.
> 		
> 		I know the DQSD java is old.  Is there some "Java version" 
> declaration
> 		statement need to enable the older syntax to run as-is.  In
FORTRAN 
> we could
> 		always compile older code with a "version" 
> switch to negate a re-write when
> 		using a newer compiler version. 
> 		
> 		Any Java gurus out there listening?
> 		
> 		
> 		
> 		
> 		
> 		
> 		
> 		-----Original Message-----
> 		From: Michael Kairys [mailto:ka...@co...] 
> 		Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:10 PM
> 		To: 'DQSD users mailing list'; 'DQSD development
discussions'
> 		Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 		
> 		I use DQSD heavily and I would be lost without it. I would
be 
> willing in
> 		principle to try and fix it but I have no idea at all how it
works; 
> nor do I
> 		have IE11 although that could be remedied. 
> 		
> 		> -----Original Message-----
> 		> From: Tom Corcoran [mailto:tom...@mo...]
> 		> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:01 PM
> 		> To: DQSD users mailing list; DQSD development discussions
> 		> Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] [DQSD-Devel] IE 11 breaks DQSD
> 		> 
> 		> Alright boys, it's been a while alright!
> 		> 
> 		> I have not installed DQSD on my work machines the last 3
to 4 
> years.
> 		> It's still on my home machine (8 year old xp pro machine)
and I 
> don't
> 		> really use if for opening web pages for a couple of
reasons:
> 		> 
> 		> - it takes about 30 seconds for the command to be
processed and a 
> tab
> 		> to open for me
> 		> - as well as opening the tab it has been giving a pop up
ie error 
> in
> 		> defer_tools.js for ages and I have not tried to trouble
shoot that
> 		> because of the time delay mentioned before anyway, in that
time I
> 		> would have opened the tab and searched a couple of times
over 
> anyway.
> 		> 
> 		> That said, Even with the popup error if I have a currency 
> conversion
> 		> to do I use it (e.g. my alias "xese 400" 
> converts 400 from sterling to 
> 		> euro)
> 		> 
> 		> Also, I use it for a calculator regularly.
> 		> 
> 		> If it was fully functional and worked on windows 7 out of
the box 
> like
> 		> it used to work before for me (maybe when my home machine
was 
> newer
> 		> and less
> 		> bloated) I would most definitely use it - I miss it to be
honest.
> 		> The alternatives like setting up the browser searches are
not as
> 		> powerful I think.
> 		> 
> 		> To get some speed back to the home laptop I am thinking
about
> 		> installing ubunto on it, so that would mean bye bye dqsd
:-(
> 		> 
> 		> I have been always hoping to get a mail from someone who
has 
> fallen in
> 		> love with the tool and sorted it out and made it relevant
again! 
> :-)
> 		> 
> 		> Take it easy, Tom.
> 		> 
> 		> 
> 		> 
> 		> 
> 		> On 15/11/2013 11:22, Kim Gräsman wrote:
> 		> > I've given up on IE and subsequently on DQSD, I haven't
used it 
> for
> 		> > a few years... If someone can find and solve the
problem, I can 
> try
> 		> > and get the fix in and build a new release, but I don't
have 
> time or
> 		> > inclination to pull it myself. - Kim
> 		> 
> 		> 
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