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From: Alfredo P. <doy...@gm...> - 2008-06-16 15:41:08
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-08-05 04:41:58
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I just saw your request at the bottom of your homepage for people to send you a note about downloading SAGE. I've downloaded it twice so far. I was part of the team that built the DVDs for the ISSAC 2006 conference proceedings and I included a copy of SAGE on them. I've also downloaded it today to look at the issue of adding Axiom to your list of available system. I'd suggest you take a look at the Doyen project, outlined here: http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/Doyen http://sourceforge.net/projects/doyencd The basic idea is that technical papers are written in a literate style that includes both latex and source code (using noweb, a derivative of Knuth's Web idea). Doyen will integrate a browser, a wiki, and several CA systems. We're investigating the ability to drag-and-drop a literate research paper onto the browser, have it automatically unpacked, compiled, added to the system along with its documentation. We hope to demonstrate this ability at the next ISSAC conference. It might be interesting to put the SAGE technology behind the browser and have Axiom as one of the back-end components. Tim Daly Axiom Lead Developer |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-08-05 04:01:54
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Jose, I've been chasing a couple pointers to try to look at the drag-and-drop issue in Doyen. These are the big five: First, javascript has a drag-and-drop set of events, ondrag, ondragstart, ondragend, ondragenter, ondragleave, and ondragover. These allow javascript code to know where the user starts and ends a drag. Second, javascript can get at the clipboarddata allowing us to pass data to the browser thru the clipboard. Both of those are covered in the JavaScript Bible by Danny Goodman Third, firefox allows you to code extensions in javascript. Extensions are local and are allowed to read/write the file system, etc. The game is to create a directory structure containing your code, zip it up, and put it in the chrome subdirectory. A tutorial example is at: http://daly.axiom-developer.org/firefox.tgz Fourth, a more detailed example of a working extension is at: http://daly.axiom-developer.org/dbx.tgz Fifth, the XMLHttpRequest object is a javascript object that allows you to construct an XML request without leaving the page. You store data in the object, invoke the send method, and then go thru a 5-state machine to get the information back. If Axiom is set up to listen for the requests then Axiom can sit behind the browser and service requests to d anything, like start graphics independently or start graphics and store the resulting image and forward it to the browser for inlining. So the game is to pick on a literate document, drag it onto the browser, fire up a firefox extension to read the clipboard, write the file into the appropriate place, and then talk to axiom to compile and load the file and build the documentation. I know this can be done but everything is moving at a glacial pace due to multitasking. I'm going on vacation next week and I'll try to get an example working if time permits (which it never does). Tim |
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From: Alfredo P. <doy...@gm...> - 2006-07-21 19:38:44
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Hi everyone, Mr. Bill Page has point out in many occasions the importance of improving the content of the Doyen Wiki included in the Live CD. I have setup a LatexWiki server for this purpose: http://doyen.sytes.net/Doyen Here, anybody can add content that you consider important, especially using information from axiom-developer. This content will be the same to be included in the Live CD. It can also be used to develop/test the idea of the drag and drop engine and future algebra systems to work in the Wiki. If you have any problem accessing it, please let me know. Comments??? A.P. |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-07-16 11:02:53
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Juergen, I mentioned the Doyen effort to you at ISSAC. Next year I hope to have a bootable CD containing the literate platform software as the primary ISSAC proceedings CD. We'd like to find a way to allow someone to include Maple source code in a literate research paper so that we could "drag and drop" the paper from a website onto a computer and have the code be automatically extracted and added to the Maple system. There are technical issues (which we do not yet know how to solve since we don't have Maple) but we believe these will not be difficult. However there are licensing issues that can take some time to resolve. The ideal case from our viewpoint would be to include a copy of Maple but that is clearly not optimal from a commercial standpoint. Since I don't know what is technically possible nor your particular license concerns I need your help and assistance. Given what we would like to do how can we best accomplish the task in a way that is acceptable to Maplesoft? Tim Daly Doyen Lead Developer |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-05-19 02:29:11
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Subject: Doyen, Magnus distribution Reply-to: da...@ax... --text follows this line-- (copy to the mailing lists of a Doyen email...) oh, and while i've got you on the phone, so to speak, here's another thing to consider. both axiom and magnus use custom front-end software for most of their help and user interface. Bill has been making the point that we should consider using a standard browser instead. i've been looking at this in some depth for replacing the axiom browser. axiom's browser allows you to input equations which can be passed to the back end and the results displayed inline. it also allows both inline and standalone graphics. i've been studying AJAX (asynchronous Javascript and XML). I recommend the books AJAX Hacks and AJAX In Action. the basic idea is very simple. Any web page can include javascript. javascript has an object called XMLHttpRequest. If you set some properties on this object and call a method you can send an http request (GET or POST) back to the host without changing the current page. you can then process the reply without changing the current page. google uses this technique in google maps and gmail. it is now possible to write a fully interactive client program in the browser. i've been rewriting the axiom browser pages to use this machinery. perhaps you want to consider ways to use it in the Doyen CD to interact with the browser. you're especially well suited for the task as you're also running a web server locally so you can process and modify local files. it is also a useful long-term direction for the Magnus interface. this would allow magnus to be used over the web. it would be simple to open a second browser window with a different page so you could have the two-window desktop Gilbert prefers. t |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-03-08 14:47:46
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In the article it appears that there is a javascript program available somewhere that allows cut and paste from web to program and back. This is the kind of tool that Doyen and Axiom need to allow moving pamphlet files from Axiom to the wiki and back. I'm not sure what the clipboard interface would look like but it should be possible to push it into a file using a standalone program that can type the clipboard to stdout or move a file to the clipboard. http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181501850&cid=RSSfeed_tWk_All Microsoft Debuts Web-To-PC Clipboard |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2006-03-08 14:42:09
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http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=181501850&cid=RSSfeed_tWk_All Microsoft Debuts Web-To-PC Clipboard The ability to cut-and-paste across Web sites, called "Live Clipboard," is going to be freely available under Creative Commons license. To further emphasize the point, Microsoft's Ray Ozzie demonstrated the tool with Firefox instead of using Internet Explorer. By Reuters InformationWeek Mar 8, 2006 08:10 AM SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. extended an olive branch to some of its harshest critics on Tuesday by proposing a way for Internet users to "cut and paste" live Web data across different sites, just as they can between computer programs. Ray Ozzie, Microsoft's chief technical officer, told a conference of top Web developers here that his company wants to openly license a simple technology for sharing data between Web and computer programs -- whether Microsoft-controlled or not. "Live Clipboard," as the concept technology is known, would take the widely used clipboard feature common to many computer programs and extend it to the Web, allowing users to share organized data between Web sites or move it into PC programs. In a slide show demonstration, Ozzie showed how users could simply cut and paste complex structured information from one Web site to another, or move the same data, preserving its formatting, to programs running on Windows desktop computers. He copied personal contact information out of his computer address book into an online shopping checkout page, filling out the order processing pages in a quick gesture, for example. "It allows the user to copy structured information from one place to another in a non-geeky fashion," Ozzie told roughly 1,000 programmers and Web developers attending the O'Reilly Emerging Technology conference under way here this week. The O'Reilly conference is an intellectual hothouse for Web developers who gather each year to debate how best to build a new generation of collaborative software based on open source software principles that pose a big challenge to Microsoft. Striking a decidedly humbler tone than older generations of Microsoft executives, Ozzie showed how his Web-sharing prototype can work on a variety of non-Microsoft Web sites. To emphasize his point, Ozzie used the open source Firefox browser rather than Microsoft's own Internet Explorer browser. "It's impressive stuff," said Doc Searles, a co-author of iconoclastic marketing manual "The Cluetrain Manifesto" and a leading open source advocate. "It shows the amount of change that has occurred in Microsoft management." Sam Ruby, an IBM engineer who is director of the Apache Software Foundation, whose open source software is widely used to run Web servers, also said he was keen to give the Web clipboard software a try, but still needed to be convinced of Microsoft's commitment to open standards. Ozzie copied a calendar entry from the independent event listings Web site Eventful and pasted it into that his Outlook calendar, moving not just text, but all of the appropriate elements that made up the full appointment entry. In a more dramatic attempt to impress the geeky audience, Ozzie took location-tracking data that appears on his personal blog that monitors his movements via his cellphone and pasted it onto the page of youthful social networking site Facebook. He then copied an updating list of his contacts from Facebook into a Microsoft Web-based mapping application and the locations of his contacts immediately appeared as flags on the map. Ozzie posted an example on his blog at http://spaces.msn.com/editorial/rayozzie/demo/liveclip/liveclips ample/clipboardexample.html Ozzie said he conceived of the idea a month ago while mulling the history of how computer user interaction had evolved over the past two to three decades. He asked a project team including his brother, Jack Ozzie, to implement his idea. Live Clipboard is based on JavaScript and standard data formats widely used by Web developers. "This is not platform specific," Ozzie said, using industry jargon for operating systems like Microsoft Windows or Apple Mac OS X software. Microsoft also plans to freely license the software under the Creative Commons license, requiring only that Microsoft receive attribution for its work and that any improvements to the code are shared with other developers. "It's a little gift to the Web," he said. |
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From: Alfredo P. <doy...@gm...> - 2006-01-27 06:40:37
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We are proud to annouce that we have successfully built a Doyen-livecd with support for pamphlet-wiki pages. In addition to the latter a new feature known as the Doyen drag and drop box has been implemented, using DTML and Python, and added to the Doyen-Wiki. The user is now able to drag remote links of pamphlet files into the drag and drop box and use the provided buttons to create a new local pamphlet-wiki page instantly. The latest doyen-livecd iso has been uploaded for testing purposes. We are working on the latest documentation for this project and would encourage all doyen testers to provide as much feedback as possible. We at the Doyen labs are always open to comments and new suggestions on how to enhance and improve the doyen project. For more information on doyen go to http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenCD --wrivera |
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From: Alfredo P. <doy...@gm...> - 2006-01-18 11:43:32
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Hi Bill, I will look into the way you call the notangle inside your scripts. Right now we have this application: http://toolbox1.sytes.net/doyen/dragdrop/ If you drag and drop a pamphlet file here, (you must drag the link of course) the application will read the pamphlet extract the make file and process th= e information in the pamphlet (extract the tex, source, etc). This application for the front end has a java script that makes sure the file is a pamphlet file, and everything else is discarted. Then, the JS calls a PHP script and passes the location and the name of the file. The PHP script takes care of downloading the file and process it locally, then it displays a pdf file. So I assume at this point, what I would like to do is to integrate this app= , and ZWiki. I would look into the scripts and see the way this works. Regards, On 1/17/06, Page, Bill <Bil...@dr...> wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:41 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: > > > I have a few questions regarding the way ZWiki handles new > > pages. I would like to integrate the little app we have for > > drag and drop in the CD to the Latex Wiki. Is it possible to > > create pages in the Wiki without doing this manually? > > Yes, although of course some HTML <form action=3D"..."> has > to be trigger somehow (usually via a "submit") in order that > ZWiki can begin to process the input. > > > if it is, does it have to be a python script? > > The processing on the server-side will have to be at > least initiated by some Python code that is associated > with the type of Zope objects you will be creating. See > for example how I handle the "tangle" operation now in > the pamphlet files on MathAction. In that case the Python > code calls 'notangle' internally. > > But the triggering of the "submit" action would normally > be handled by something like JavaScript in the browser or > by some other HTTP-aware "helper" application. > > > I will like for the person using the CD to have this > > tool, they would drag the pamphlet to this application, > > not to the Wiki and then the application would take care > > of adding it to the Wiki. > > This sounds quite possible but it perhaps might involve > more coding then alternatives. If you do it this way, > the local "helper" application could be written in any > programming language, but presumably you would want to > choose carefully in order to minimize the effort of > porting to/from at least Windows and Linux. > > > I do not know if this sounds too complicated, or if > > it would be better to write this kind of script inside > > ZWiki. Sorry if I didn't explain my point clear enough. > > I think your idea is clear enough. But it will not be > possible to write everything that you need inside ZWiki - > only part of it. The major alternative as I see it is to > write JavaScript for a browser like FireFox. This has > the great benefit of being highly portable and provides > an otherwise very familiar interface for the user. > > JavaScript locally in a browser does have some limitations > but I think for what you want to do, it might be the most > simple solution. > > How does you current test drag-and-drop application work? > Can it be easily used as the front-end to what you want > to do on LatexWiki? > > Regards, > Bill Page. > |
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From: Emil V. <vol...@ac...> - 2005-09-07 05:45:14
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Tim, I like both ideas: a potential journal as well as for the ISSAC CD. ACM has the wherewithal to launch a journal like this, but we'd have to do prototypes like you suggest. Possible starting points are the ISSAC Proceedings, or a special issue of either Communications in Computer Algebra or Transactions on Mathematical Software. How would you propose to handle submissions that include a Mathematica or Maple literate program? Should we ask commercial vendors to include trial versions? Or perhaps we could link this to Manuel Bronstein's idea of a SIGSAM server running commercial and free computer algebra software that members could connect to. How do you think we should start this? What's the first step? The idea of a journal accepting software as well as articles has been around for a while. I remember when I was at RISC-Linz over ten years ago, people were talking about getting the JSC to accept and test programs to accompany articles. --Emil On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:28:03PM -0400, root wrote: > Emil, et. al. > > For the past two years I've been building the proceedings CD that gets > distributed at ISSAC. This has been interesting but not really breaking > any new ground. And the process starts at the last minute so there is > very little time to do anything but get the CD assembled. > > This year I'd like to consider something more interesting and to do that > I need to start much earlier (now). > > Consider the following idea: > > You are giving a talk about a new algorithm. During the talk you give > out the URL which contains a copy of your paper. The paper is a literate > program which contains latex plus the full source code. > > A person in the audience can put a special Live CD in their laptop (which > boots linux but does not change their hard drive). They open a browser. > They surf to the given URL. They "drag and drop" your paper onto their > machine, it compiles, installs, and is set up to run. > > Now the person in the audience can actually execute your algorithm while > you are giving your talk. > > This is the "Doyen" idea. It can be applied in all of the science > conferences but ISSAC is a perfect test case. > > For background some of you need to know that Carlo Traverso has been trying > to develop an "Active Journal" which would accept "Literate Programs" for > publication. > > Literate programs (my definition) are papers that contain the complete, > runnable source code for the published algorithm as well as things like > proof of termination, order of the algorithm, etc. If these are published > in an Active Journal then people will be able to use the algorithms directly. > This has been a problem in the past (e.g. a new, faster Groebner basis > algorithm that does not have associated code). Given that we are doing > computational mathematics I claim that running code is as important as > a proof. Axiom has been rewritten to be all literate programs (that is, > all of the files are now documents and there is no lisp, boot, spac, C, or > Makefile files anymore). > > Another effort is the Doyen Computational Science Platform CD project > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/doyencd) > which has created a Live CD (that is, one that will boot linux on a > computer from the CD without changing your hard drive). The goal of > the Doyen project is to set up a Live CD that contains several computer > algebra systems, a web server, a browser, and a special Wiki, a website > user's can change. Thanks to Bill Page Axiom already has such a wiki > (http://page.axiom-developer.org) > > You should be able to "drag and drop" a literate program onto a Doyen > CD and have it automatically compile, install, latex, and set up to run > the program in the paper. Doyen is not quite there yet but that is the > goal. > > If we can create a working demonstration of a Doyen CD for the next > ISSAC then we can encourage people to write algorithms that will work > on the CD software and publish the resulting literate programs in > Carlo's Active Journal. > > All of this technology exists in prototype form. ISSAC would be the > perfect forum to demonstrate a working prototype and it would certainly > make the ISSAC CDs much more than just an electronic copy of a paper > journal. If this works then the ACM can spread the technology to the > other computational science areas. > > Comments? > > Tim Daly -- Emil Volcheck vol...@ac... http://acm.org/~volcheck |
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From: root <da...@ax...> - 2005-09-06 02:32:57
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Emil, et. al. For the past two years I've been building the proceedings CD that gets distributed at ISSAC. This has been interesting but not really breaking any new ground. And the process starts at the last minute so there is very little time to do anything but get the CD assembled. This year I'd like to consider something more interesting and to do that I need to start much earlier (now). Consider the following idea: You are giving a talk about a new algorithm. During the talk you give out the URL which contains a copy of your paper. The paper is a literate program which contains latex plus the full source code. A person in the audience can put a special Live CD in their laptop (which boots linux but does not change their hard drive). They open a browser. They surf to the given URL. They "drag and drop" your paper onto their machine, it compiles, installs, and is set up to run. Now the person in the audience can actually execute your algorithm while you are giving your talk. This is the "Doyen" idea. It can be applied in all of the science conferences but ISSAC is a perfect test case. For background some of you need to know that Carlo Traverso has been trying to develop an "Active Journal" which would accept "Literate Programs" for publication. Literate programs (my definition) are papers that contain the complete, runnable source code for the published algorithm as well as things like proof of termination, order of the algorithm, etc. If these are published in an Active Journal then people will be able to use the algorithms directly. This has been a problem in the past (e.g. a new, faster Groebner basis algorithm that does not have associated code). Given that we are doing computational mathematics I claim that running code is as important as a proof. Axiom has been rewritten to be all literate programs (that is, all of the files are now documents and there is no lisp, boot, spac, C, or Makefile files anymore). Another effort is the Doyen Computational Science Platform CD project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/doyencd) which has created a Live CD (that is, one that will boot linux on a computer from the CD without changing your hard drive). The goal of the Doyen project is to set up a Live CD that contains several computer algebra systems, a web server, a browser, and a special Wiki, a website user's can change. Thanks to Bill Page Axiom already has such a wiki (http://page.axiom-developer.org) You should be able to "drag and drop" a literate program onto a Doyen CD and have it automatically compile, install, latex, and set up to run the program in the paper. Doyen is not quite there yet but that is the goal. If we can create a working demonstration of a Doyen CD for the next ISSAC then we can encourage people to write algorithms that will work on the CD software and publish the resulting literate programs in Carlo's Active Journal. All of this technology exists in prototype form. ISSAC would be the perfect forum to demonstrate a working prototype and it would certainly make the ISSAC CDs much more than just an electronic copy of a paper journal. If this works then the ACM can spread the technology to the other computational science areas. Comments? Tim Daly |
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From: <da...@ax...> - 2005-07-27 10:51:54
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Given that this is the final week of the project can each of you give me a summary of the work and upload the final state of the files (instructions, images)? Tim |
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From: <da...@ax...> - 2005-07-19 16:22:18
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normally linux shutdown can be accomplished by "init 0" and reboot is "init 6". usually there is a script that will attempt to send a SIGTERM signal to all processes and then a SIGKILL signal. This allows them to save information but on a bootable CD that probably isn't needed. t |
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From: <da...@ax...> - 2005-07-19 16:13:39
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back online. --t |
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From: <da...@ax...> - 2005-07-10 12:59:17
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What's new? What's exciting? I haven't heard from anyone for the last 2.5 weeks. Is the project over? Tim |
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