Re: [dotNetRDF-Develop] TeamCity for dotNetRDF revisit

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Yep its under https://bitbucket.org/kal_ahmed/dotnetrdf. The main problem
is unit tests that test parts of the API that are not (and cannot be)
supported under the portable class library build.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Tomasz Pluskiewicz <
tom...@gm...> wrote:

> Do you have your fork publicly visible? I wonder why we need
> conditional compilation in unit tests...
>
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Khalil Ahmed <ka...@ne...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > Good point! I think if everything is set up so that it is possible to use
> > NUnit without requiring ReSharper I would be happy.
> >
> > One of the reasons why the portable stuff is taking a while is that I
> wanted
> > to get as many of the unit tests working with the portable library as
> > possible, so we may need to coordinate on this as I have some changes
> > (mostly conditional compilation of unit tests) that will clash with any
> > wholesale change of the unit test infrastructure and I really really
> don't
> > want to have to manually merge it all :)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Kal
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Tomasz Pluskiewicz
> > <tom...@gm...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Khal
> >>
> >> Actaully in terms of CI environment switching ot NUnit means one thing
> >> less to install, because MSTest requires installing Visual Studio to
> >> run and NUnit is bundled with probabyl about any CI server out there.
> >>
> >> I merely suggested Reshareper as a convenient test runner replacement.
> >> By the way there is a trick, which can be employed to automatically
> >> start NUnit GUI runner and attach VS debugger on start. For that the
> >> test project has to be changed to a console app. Simple and should
> >> work for anyone who doesn't have R# on their box.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Khalil Ahmed <ka...@ne...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I already have a ReSharper license so its not a big problem for me to
> >> > switch. However, in my day-to-day (closed source) work, I prefer to
> use
> >> > MSTest just because it means one less thing to install when I set up a
> >> > development environment or continuous integration server. While right
> >> > now it
> >> > sounds like the three of us are OK if we move things to
> NUnit/Resharper,
> >> > my
> >> > concern is that it puts up another barrier to entry.
> >> >
> >> > To be clear, I use and love ReSharper - but we need to be clear that
> if
> >> > the
> >> > build is dependent on it, we are relying on a third-party
> closed-source
> >> > application. JetBrains are extremely generous towards open-source
> >> > projects
> >> > and that is to be welcomed, but at the end of the day it is a business
> >> > decision, and those decisions can just as easily be reversed.
> >> >
> >> > So my gut instinct is that unless NUnit *by itself* (i.e. without
> added
> >> > ReSharper goodness) provides tooling / features that we require we
> >> > should
> >> > stick with MSTest.
> >> >
> >> > Just my 2p :)
> >> >
> >> > K
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Rob Vesse <rv...@do...>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey Tom
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes we've gone around on this a couple of times before and I have
> never
> >> >> had the free time to look into it further.  If you have the capacity
> to
> >> >> set up TeamCity to run builds and testing that would be great.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want to explore moving to NUnit that is fine provided you do
> it
> >> >> in
> >> >> a separate branch/fork for the time being.  Now the remaining blocker
> >> >> bug
> >> >> you had open (graph equality) is solved I want to go ahead and run
> >> >> regressions and then hopefully push out 1.0.0 towards the end of the
> >> >> week
> >> >> (unless you have any objections?) so anything that interferes with
> that
> >> >> is
> >> >> bad for me right now!
> >> >>
> >> >> For me the deal breaker is being able to Debug tests inside of Visual
> >> >> Studio without having to jump through additional hoops (i.e. Debug >
> >> >> Attach to Process) as NUnit straight out the box seems to require.
>  To
> >> >> be
> >> >> honest even if JetBrains won't give us an open source ReSharper
> license
> >> >> I
> >> >> can easily afford to buy a personal license since I imagine it is
> >> >> primarily me who spends a lot of time running tests in Debug mode.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'll start a separate thread on NuGet publishing
> >> >>
> >> >> Rob
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4/13/13 3:23 AM, "Tomasz Pluskiewicz" <
> tom...@gm...>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi Rob
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Some time we discussed setting up continous integration for
> dotNetRDF.
> >> >> >I am upgrading my VPS to a more powerful machine and I have already
> >> >> >set up TeamCity. It will also be possible to install some
> triplestores
> >> >> >for integration testing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >However I'm hitting a wall with unit tests because you use MSTest.
> >> >> >Would you be fine with me converting to NUnit? That way TeamCity
> will
> >> >> >run without installing Visual Studio and VS Express users will also
> be
> >> >> >able to build the whole solution. Also I think we could ask
> JetBrains
> >> >> >for ReSharper licence for our project (in case you would ask about
> >> >> >running the test suite from within VS). Oh and by the way, with the
> >> >> >introduction of NUnit there can be a lot less code for similar
> tests,
> >> >> >which can be parametrized. I assume you know the TestCase attribute.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >When TeamCity builds are running I think we should also automate
> NuGet
> >> >> >publishing. For that some changes will be needed to have automatic
> >> >> >version numbering. Also you would have to explain how you nuget pack
> >> >> >dotNetRDF. In a separate email maybe.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Also I thought that maybe there could be two flavors of those
> >> >> >packages. One as usual for stable builds and a new one, which would
> >> >> >publish automatically for each successful build. What do you think?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A thing to consider here is moving to a dedicated branch for release
> >> >> >development and leaving default only for bugfixes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Any thoughs?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks
> >> >> >Tom
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
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