Re: [Docutils-develop] Re: LaTeX/PDF critique

[Simon Budig <Simon.Budig@un...>]

grubert@... (grubert@...) wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, David Goodger wrote:
> > * Since TeX uses curly quotes (which it expresses ``thusly''), perhaps
> >   the LaTeX writer could convert regular double-quotes to TeX-style
> >   quotes?  Or can TeX/LaTeX do that automatically?  Currently all
> >   double-quotes look like (just blur your eyes a bit ;)::
> >
> >       99    99
> >         this
> >
> >   whereas they should look like this::
> >
> >       66    99
> >         this
> >
> >   If it's not feasible to get proper curly quotes, then the Writer
> >   should use straight quotes.  Better to be ugly (straight quotes)
> >   than wrong (bad curlies).
> 
> is in the todo (latex2e-README.txt (someday i wipe my sand/dustbox))

Whee! Typographically correct quotes!

I'd just like to point out, that this is something that differs a bit
in different languages. In Germany the following is used:

                 66
            this
         99

Also there are the options

          >> this <<    (german)

and       << this >>    (french IIRC)

It would be *very* cool if one could select this somehow.  :-)


Bye,
        Simon

PS: I am very happy about the inline target stuff. Thanks David!

-- 
      Simon.Budig@...       http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/

[Docutils-develop] Re: Style sheet [was: LaTeX/PDF critique]

[Julien Letessier <mezis@fr...>]

On mardi, nov 12, 2002, at 07:59 Europe/Paris, 
grubert@... wrote:

> style.tex should hold: the font (as sayed earlier palatino make pdfs 
> bigger)
>
> settings required for proper layout should be set by the writer 
> (written
> to the output): this concerns your solution for footnotes and figures.

sounds logical. i'll hard-code my TeX hacks into latex2e.py (if that's 
what you mean)

> the inclusion of the style file should be done after setting defaults,
> so there is a possibility to overwrite defaults.

yep, I'm perfectly okay ith that.

> caveats: if an option is given to the documentclass other packages
>   recognize it automatically (at least i read so), otherwise every
>   concerned package needs the option (it said so in th FM).

As  a TeXnician, I've always considered as a bad habit using 
'documentclass' options to set defaults for the various packages -- 
rather specify the options exactly when needed. But if it makes your 
life easier, fine.

One point though -- I think we should keep the 'geometry' package 
included -- the '\geometry' command can be used in the stylesheet to 
modify the settings.

> and we need documented stylefiles so people have an idea what to use
> it for.

You mean, provide a few documented examples?

Cheers,

-- julien