subversion does the job, so why change it .

considering the premize "release often" translated for developers "commit often" , distributed vcs are an excuse.
(considering that people check their facebook every 5 minutes, what is the problem with a centralized vcs)

daily vcs usage with svn is svn update, svn diff, svn commit, git doubls this so where is the advancement ?

cheers e

On 21 January 2014 23:41, Tony N <railsdontscale@gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all,

I wanted to get a status report on where things stand with VCS and a home for docutils.

To begin, I have a few issues with source forge:

I don't find the interface friendly.  It's inconsistent. I am not up to date with it, because everyone else is using something else.

The good things with source forge:

1. The good news is sourceforge may allow docutils to bind with advertisements, with DevShare, we can hook into setup.py and monetize docutils development. For more information, you can see http://sourceforge.net/blog/advertising-bundling-community-and-criticism/.

2. Also source forge benefits from being funded by Dice Holdings, Inc. You can read more about them at http://www.diceholdingsinc.com/. According to their front page, I see they announced as $50 million Stock Repurchase program. So while I'm ignorant of finance, we can get someone from numpy to confirm if fiscals are sound for 2014. SF could be around for a long time.

3. SVN is simple. Older versions have a folder in every sub-directory to maintain metadata. It has no upsides but it's cool when you get them tangled up.

4. The current work flow works. But, I don't think it's true. I think there are people who don't want to criticize, or people who just see docutils website and (sorry here) think it's a dead ghost town. That's my first impression when I see it. To people who used SF for a decade, this may not make sense, but this place honestly sucks. To other people who are newer to python, they may not be talking, but it scares them off or confuses them.

I have issues with subversion. Its positive is simplicity. On the other hand, it lacks many of the conveniences git has. It's actually nice to have a decentralized system. The workflow for branches is nice. It's fast. In 2014, I think it's safe to say many developers know how to use it.

Many python projects make their home on github. Flask, Werkzeug, Tornado, Requests. Cython. Pandas. Numpy. IPython.

I have a preference for github and git. I like their interface for browsing source, pull requests, issues. I think github's pull requests and issue system is very contributor friendly.

Even SQLAlchemy moved from bitbucket to github. Here is their rationale: http://www.sqlalchemy.org/blog/2013/05/25/sqlalchemy-migrated-to-git/

For the sake of articulating it, who makes the choice if docutils were to move to a new place? What is the current feeling around here?

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