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  • Pieter van Zyl

    Pieter van Zyl - 2014-07-27

    Good day.

    As some of you know I worked on these projects:

    Coefficient (https://sourceforge.net/projects/coefficient/) and Dithaka (https://sourceforge.net/projects/dithaka/) projects in 2005/2006 :)

    I was working at the CSIR (Division: Meraka) which created Coefficient and its associated project Dithaka:

    I was not the original architect of these projects.

    We tried to revive these projects since 2006-2010 when I was working at the CSIR and taking more ownership. The revival never took off.

    This project was used mostly at the University Of Pretoria. Morkel Theunissen (my friend and lecturer at UP) mostly promoted this project and asked that all third years students use Coefficient to manage their projects. I think they used Coefficient till about 2010. They also wrote some integration plugins with SVN.

    I and some friends would like to take these projects over and implement some of my research ideas.

    Some of technology plans will be:

        Use JPA+JSF
    Decide on EJB3 or Spring to provide services.
    Rewite all UI's
    Use Richfaces or Primefaces and their mobile frameworks
    Make the site mobile friendly
    Investigate the use of No-Sql (MongoDB, Oracle Berkley DB,etc) or object databases or use my own no-sql object database

    Other ideas:

    Project management tools
Review tools
Data science
Deploy to Cloud
Log analysis
Forum chat analysis

    We could fork these projects but I feel I do have a history with them and they are not currently maintained.
    Plus forking of a project is not a great thing to do. Splits the effort and confuses users.

    The Cathedral and the Bazaar states that:
    "5. When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand it off to a
    competent successor."

    Ending an Open-Source Project:
    "It is natural for the founder of an open-source project to leave in order to move on to other interests. However, this does not necessarily mean just abandoning the project."
    http://dreamsongs.com/ihe/IHE-56.html

    I also know that Meraka always wanted people to take their ideas further and make a success in the outside world.

    Can I please take over these projects? Credit will be given to the original teams.

    Can we agree that I can take over these projects if I hear no objections in the next month?

    Also note that both projects are using LGPL licenses.

    The Coeficient license states:

    /
    * Coefficient - facilitates project based collaboration
    * Copyright (C) 2003, Dylan Etkin, CSIR icomtek
    * PO Box 395
    * Pretoria 0001, RSA
    * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
    * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public
    * License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either
    * version 2.1 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
    * This library is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
    * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
    * Lesser General Public License for more details.

    * You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
    * License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software
    * Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA
    */

    I have also tried to follow some of these suggestions:

    http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/125789/how-to-go-about-taking-over-an-open-source-project

    If there are any other suggestions or concerns please mail me.
    Please also forward this mail to anyone that you feel might have an interest in this project.

    Kindly

     

    • Richard Watson

      Richard Watson - 2014-07-27

      No problem from my end (original author of Dithaka and did a bit of work on
      Coefficient). If the code lives on, awesome. I assume Meraka would have an
      opinion and the code was created under their umbrella, but taking it over
      does nothing to harm the company and they could make an internal fork if it
      meant anything to them. Thomas?

      Richard

      On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Pieter van Zyl pvzyl@users.sf.net wrote:

      Good day.

      As some of you know I worked on these projects:

      Coefficient (https://sourceforge.net/projects/coefficient/) and Dithaka (
      https://sourceforge.net/projects/dithaka/) projects in 2005/2006 :)

      I was working at the CSIR (Division: Meraka) which created Coefficient and
      its associated project Dithaka:

      I was not the original architect of these projects.

      We tried to revive these projects since 2006-2010 when I was working at
      the CSIR and taking more ownership. The revival never took off.

      This project was used mostly at the University Of Pretoria. Morkel
      Theunissen (my friend and lecturer at UP) mostly promoted this project and
      asked that all third years students use Coefficient to manage their
      projects. I think they used Coefficient till about 2010. They also wrote
      some integration plugins with SVN.

      I and some friends would like to take these projects over and implement
      some of my research ideas.

      Some of technology plans will be:

      Use JPA+JSF
Decide on EJB3 or Spring to provide services.
Rewite all UI's
Use Richfaces or Primefaces and their mobile frameworks
Make the site mobile friendly
Investigate the use of No-Sql (MongoDB, Oracle Berkley DB,etc) or object databases or use my own no-sql object database

      Other ideas:

      Project management toolsReview toolsData scienceDeploy to CloudLog analysisForum chat analysis

      We could fork these projects but I feel I do have a history with them and
      they are not currently maintained.
      Plus forking of a project is not a great thing to do. Splits the effort
      and confuses users.

      The Cathedral and the Bazaar states that:
      "5. When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand
      it off to a
      competent successor."

      Ending an Open-Source Project:
      "It is natural for the founder of an open-source project to leave in order
      to move on to other interests. However, this does not necessarily mean just
      abandoning the project."
      http://dreamsongs.com/ihe/IHE-56.html

      I also know that Meraka always wanted people to take their ideas further
      and make a success in the outside world.

      Can I please take over these projects? Credit will be given to the
      original teams.

      Can we agree that I can take over these projects if I hear no objections
      in the next month?

      Also note that both projects are using LGPL licenses.

      The Coeficient license states:

      /

        • Coefficient - facilitates project based collaboration * Copyright (C)
          2003, Dylan Etkin, CSIR icomtek * PO Box 395 * Pretoria 0001, RSA * This
          library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or * modify it under
          the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public * License as published by the
          Free Software Foundation; either * version 2.1 of the License, or (at your
          option) any later version. * This library is distributed in the hope that
          it will be useful, * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied
          warranty of * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
          GNU * Lesser General Public License for more details. *
      • You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
      • License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software
      • Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA
        */

      I have also tried to follow some of these suggestions:

      http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/125789/how-to-go-about-taking-over-an-open-source-project

      If there are any other suggestions or concerns please mail me.
      Please also forward this mail to anyone that you feel might have an
      interest in this project.

      Kindly

      Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in
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      • Andries Jansen van Rensburg

        Andries Jansen van Rensburg - 2014-07-27

        No problem from my side, great to see a project being of use.

        On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Richard Watson richardwatson@users.sf.net
        wrote:

        No problem from my end (original author of Dithaka and did a bit of work on
        Coefficient). If the code lives on, awesome. I assume Meraka would have an
        opinion and the code was created under their umbrella, but taking it over
        does nothing to harm the company and they could make an internal fork if it
        meant anything to them. Thomas?

        Richard

        On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Pieter van Zyl pvzyl@users.sf.net wrote:

        Good day.

        As some of you know I worked on these projects:

        Coefficient (https://sourceforge.net/projects/coefficient/) and Dithaka (
        https://sourceforge.net/projects/dithaka/) projects in 2005/2006 :)

        I was working at the CSIR (Division: Meraka) which created Coefficient and
        its associated project Dithaka:

        I was not the original architect of these projects.

        We tried to revive these projects since 2006-2010 when I was working at
        the CSIR and taking more ownership. The revival never took off.

        This project was used mostly at the University Of Pretoria. Morkel
        Theunissen (my friend and lecturer at UP) mostly promoted this project and
        asked that all third years students use Coefficient to manage their
        projects. I think they used Coefficient till about 2010. They also wrote
        some integration plugins with SVN.

        I and some friends would like to take these projects over and implement
        some of my research ideas.

        Some of technology plans will be:

        Use JPA+JSFDecide on EJB3 or Spring to provide services.Rewite all UI'sUse Richfaces or Primefaces and their mobile frameworksMake the site mobile friendlyInvestigate the use of No-Sql (MongoDB, Oracle Berkley DB,etc) or object databases or use my own no-sql object database

        Other ideas:

        Project management toolsReview toolsData scienceDeploy to CloudLog
        analysisForum chat analysis

        We could fork these projects but I feel I do have a history with them and
        they are not currently maintained.
        Plus forking of a project is not a great thing to do. Splits the effort
        and confuses users.

        The Cathedral and the Bazaar states that:
        "5. When you lose interest in a program, your last duty to it is to hand
        it off to a
        competent successor."

        Ending an Open-Source Project:
        "It is natural for the founder of an open-source project to leave in order
        to move on to other interests. However, this does not necessarily mean just
        abandoning the project."
        http://dreamsongs.com/ihe/IHE-56.html

        I also know that Meraka always wanted people to take their ideas further
        and make a success in the outside world.

        Can I please take over these projects? Credit will be given to the
        original teams.

        Can we agree that I can take over these projects if I hear no objections
        in the next month?

        Also note that both projects are using LGPL licenses.

        The Coeficient license states:

        /

        -
        - Coefficient - facilitates project based collaboration * Copyright
        (C)

          2003, Dylan Etkin, CSIR icomtek * PO Box 395 * Pretoria 0001, RSA *
  This
  library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or * modify
  it under
  the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public * License as published
  by the
  Free Software Foundation; either * version 2.1 of the License, or
  (at your
  option) any later version. * This library is distributed in the
  hope that
  it will be useful, * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the
  implied
  warranty of * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
  See the
  GNU * Lesser General Public License for more details. *
   - You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public
        • License along with this library; if not, write to the Free Software
        • Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307
          USA
          */

        I have also tried to follow some of these suggestions:

        http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/125789/how-to-go-about-taking-over-an-open-source-project

        If there are any other suggestions or concerns please mail me.
        Please also forward this mail to anyone that you feel might have an
        interest in this project.
        Kindly

        Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in
        https://sourceforge.net/p/dithaka/wiki/Home/

        To unsubscribe from further messages, please visit
        https://sourceforge.net/auth/subscriptions/

        Sent from sourceforge.net because you indicated interest in
        https://sourceforge.net/p/dithaka/wiki/Home/

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